[slim] Network traffic continues for a minute after pausing players

2021-11-28 Thread beneix


I have recently upgraded my router equipment so have a better
opportunity to monitor traffic across my LAN. This has revealed to me a
quirk with the traffic to Squeezeplayers.

I have an SB3, a Squeezebox Radio and a PicoReplayer set up. On all
three, I observe the same phenomenon: A player that is paused by
pressing the pause button on the main LMS web interface, or the pause
button in the Squeezelite-X app, or even the power button on the remote
control in the case of the SB3, continues to draw traffic over the LAN
at the same bitrate as before. After about a minute, the traffic stops.

I assume that this is by design in order to make the players ready to
resume the stream instantly, and then after a set period the players
conclude that the user does not want to resume and stops the stream.
Interestingly, with the PCP, pressing Stop in the PCP web interface
stops the traffic instantly.

This raises two questions:

1. Is there on the LMS web interface or on the players themselves an
equivalent to the "Stop" on the PCP?
2. Is there a setting somewhere that determines the time delay from
"Pause" to the cutting of the stream?



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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread RobbH


tusken wrote: 
> Thanks, but my vortexbox hasn’t been updated in years and
> it’s headless, so the chromecast plugin would be a nightmare to
> install

Are you saying that you don't have web access to your LMS installation?
All you need to install a plugin is to be able to load http://:9000 in your web browser. Once there, you would use the Settings
link at bottom right, then go to the Plugins tab on the Settings page.



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occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread slartibartfast

tusken wrote: 
> Thanks, but my vortexbox hasn’t been updated in years and it’s headless,
> so the chromecast plugin would be a nightmare to installWhich version of LMS 
> are you running?

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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread tusken

ftlight wrote: 
> You could use the LMS Chromecast plugin and any Chromecast-enabled smart
> speaker.  
> 
> Example:
> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-nest-audio-smart-speaker-charcoal/6428302.p?skuId=6428302

Thanks, but my vortexbox hasn’t been updated in years and it’s headless,
so the chromecast plugin would be a nightmare to install



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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread tusken

rkrug wrote: 
> HomePod mini - I only have AirPlay 2 speakers and they work brilliantly
> with lms

Thanks for your reply. Can you explain how they work with lms because
they aren’t squeezeboxes? Are they seeing the upnp bridge?



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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread rkrug


HomePod mini - I only have AirPlay 2 speakers and they work brilliantly
with lms



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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread Jaca


I run 2 squeezebox radios configured as stereo pair in my kitchen and
very happy with this config.. Although yeah it's 2 devices rather then
one you asked about ;p



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HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander,
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in
DS218+)

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Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread ftlight


tusken wrote: 
> Are there any devices out there that can be configured to work with lms?

You could use the LMS Chromecast plugin and any Chromecast-enabled smart
speaker.  

Example:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-nest-audio-smart-speaker-charcoal/6428302.p?skuId=6428302



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[slim] Recommendations for kitchen

2021-11-28 Thread tusken

Hi
Long time squeezebox user here. I have several touches hooked up to amps
and speakers in the house, and a dedicated vortexbox server running LMS.
1 boom in use upstairs.

After a kitchen extension, I would like to introduce some networked
audio into the kitchen, but this will need to consist of essentially one
smart speaker type device. Certainly only a one box solution.

Forgive me, but I really don’t want to build a custom made device.
Really I want an updated version of the boom, which doesn’t exist!

Are there any devices out there that can be configured to work with lms?
The dreaded sonos for example? 

Worst case scenario, would one of the more intelligent smart speakers be
able to at least see the upnp server that vortexbox has, in addition to
LMS? So I can at least browse my music library that way?

Any suggestions and advice sincerely appreciated.



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Re: [slim] Fiona Music app for Windows

2021-11-28 Thread CloudAtlas


Out of curiosity I downloaded this app from the Microsoft Store.  When I
try to open it, the app window displays with nothing in it then crashes
after about 15 seconds.  Nothing in the windows logs using event viewer.

App uninstalled.
(Windows 11 Pro x64 - Version21H2 (OS Build 22000.348)



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Re: [slim] How to get started on Windows?

2021-11-28 Thread flyfishing


In the words of an old time song... "I'm beginning to see the light." 
(Ella Fitzgerald and Duke Ellington.)  I'll work on this and see what my
next hurdle turns out to be.  

Thanks to everyone who helped.



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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread rbl


bpa wrote: 
> 
> 
> For testing, fix the channel and make sure the channels is either 1,6 or
> 11 - IIRC SB3 may have had "problems" with channel 13
> 

Aha! Both my routers had auto selected Channel 13. I switched them to 11
and suddenly the SB3 can see them. I wouldn't have guessed that in a
million years so thank you very much!



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subwoofer
3 x SB3s + SB Radio
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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread rbl


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Any difference if you temporarily move your SB3 to be much closer to the
> router?

It's currently 10 feet away with no walls in between. It's picking up
the WiFi from a neighbouring flat. Very odd!



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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread bpa


rbl wrote: 
> All 4 SSIDs have different names, and other devices do see them so they
> are not hidden. I am just wondering if it is something to do with the
> SB3 being 20 years old, but even that seems odd. The router is set to
> 802.11 b/g/n 144Mbit/s which is meant to be compatible with all 2.4GHz
> devices.

I think SSIDS with odd characters may cause problems  - just
alphanumeric and no spaces etc.

Turn off any 40MHz channel bonding. 

For testing, fix the channel and make sure the channels is either 1,6 or
11 - IIRC SB3 may have had "problems" with channel 13



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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread Paul Webster


Any difference if you temporarily move your SB3 to be much closer to the
router?



Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline
flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz,
frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth,
naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte
ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland

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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread rbl


Paul Webster wrote: 
> My first thought was that maybe you have them configured as "hidden" in
> your router.
> 
> Can they be seen by any devices that have never connected before?
> For example - a friend's phone.
> Do the 5GHz and 2.4GHz SSIDs have different names? If not - then that
> could be why the Samsung device lists it.

All 4 SSIDs have different names, and other devices do see them so they
are not hidden. I am just wondering if it is something to do with the
SB3 being 20 years old, but even that seems odd. The router is set to
802.11 b/g/n 144Mbit/s which is meant to be compatible with all 2.4GHz
devices.



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3 x SB3s + SB Radio
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Re: [slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread Paul Webster


My first thought was that maybe you have them configured as "hidden" in
your router.

Can they be seen by any devices that have never connected before?
For example - a friend's phone.
Do the 5GHz and 2.4GHz SSIDs have different names? If not - then that
could be why the Samsung device lists it.



Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline
flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz,
frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth,
naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte
ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland

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[slim] SB3 not seeing 2.4GHz SSIDs

2021-11-28 Thread rbl


Hi - I live in central London and there are quite a few routers in
range. I have two routers, both running 2.4 and 5GHz signals on 4
different SSIDs. My SB3 doesn't see any of them! Obviously I don't
expect it to see the 5GHz signals.
- if i manually type in the SSID into the SB3 then it connects, but it
still doesn't add it to the list of available WiFi SSIDs
- all routers are on WPA2 only
- my Samsung S10 phone sees all 4 of them.
- I am using an old BT Homehub 5 router, and a new Nokia router
- the SB3 is in range!

Any idea why my SB3 isn't seeing these SSIDs? I have used wired
connections up to now so I haven't noticed the problem before.



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3 x SB3s + SB Radio
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Re: [slim] Fiona Music app for Windows

2021-11-28 Thread Paul Webster


I tried Radio/Search but no input area appeared (Windows 10).



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author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin, allzic radio, caroline
flashback, cesky rozhlas, dandelion radio, europa radio jazz,
frequence3, fsk, jukeradio, klassikradio.de, linn radio, mother earth,
naim radio, nova.fr, radioblues flac, radio espace, radio swiss, rte
ireland, somehow jazz, supla finland

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