Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
I'm told Philippe_44 is looking for a new hardware project now he's done with the SqueezeAmps. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Don't get too exited - Photoshop. :o If only ... 36299 +---+ |Filename: Radio Boom.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36299| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.3.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.0.0 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 8.0.0/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
philchillbill wrote: > If you want a screen then an Amazon Echo Show combined with the > MediaServer Alexa skill will allow you to play music sourced from LMS > via the Echo. You can then also play stuff like TuneIn or Spotify > without involving LMS at all. And you get the advantage of being able to > use it for all other Alexa tasks like viewing recipes (handy in the > kitchen). Might be worth considering if you can forego the pushbutton > favorite-selection you mentioned. That's a nice looking unit. For me, it does some things I don't want particularly (camera, the "Amazon World", at least on a device..), and doesn't (I think...) do some things I do need (battery, really good audio, 3.5mm audio in). Interesting at the moment with huge improvements in the design and audio quality of very small-package speakers, that if Logitech suddenly designed a modern replacement something slightly between Radio and Boom, it would be a fabulous thing LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
If you want a screen then an Amazon Echo Show combined with the MediaServer Alexa skill will allow you to play music sourced from LMS via the Echo. You can then also play stuff like TuneIn or Spotify without involving LMS at all. And you get the advantage of being able to use it for all other Alexa tasks like viewing recipes (handy in the kitchen). Might be worth considering if you can forego the pushbutton favorite-selection you mentioned. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
And now I'm pondering how to re-purpose an older, spare (SIM-less) smartphone as a screen for my "kitchen radio" A small stand; buy a device that has USB charging volts out; simplify the apps on the homescreen - Device app, Material Skin for LMS, maybe the Homepages of the local-preset-activated streams, for program info. So much to try, so little time (and money!) to try it! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Paul Webster wrote: > Just had to remind myself how favourites are managed ... because I could > not see how to examine the URL to see what it was using for BBC > stations. > > Answer ... they have a TuneIn like service (I don't think it is TuneIn > ... based on a few stations that I searched for that I know are in > TuneIn) so you find the stations in there (via the app) and then play > them and set as a favourite if wanted. And if only the assorted possible device options had a screen... Got to love the SB world really - wonderful design that hit so many user and expert targets, so well! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Just had to remind myself how favourites are managed ... because I could not see how to examine the URL to see what it was using for BBC stations. Answer ... they have a TuneIn like service (I don't think it is TuneIn ... based on a few stations that I searched for that I know are in TuneIn) so you find the stations in there (via the app) and then play them and set as a favourite if wanted. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
All the above said, purely for visual appeal, good battery, physical size and input options I'm looking at the AudioPro AddOn C3: https://www.audiopro.com/en/product/addon-c3/#black (say's it's out-of-stock, but I'm seeing availability here in France). Local buttons are on top, just in front of the handle. +---+ |Filename: wireless-multiroom-speaker-C3-AudioPro_black.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36297| +---+ LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Paul Webster wrote: > Just tried it and last one wins. . > > The device has a web interface but it is (officially at least) only for > device initial set-up for people who do not have a mobile phone that > works with their app. However, you need the app to manage the favourites > on the device (although I expect someone could reverse engineer the > interface). Thanks again. That sounds very promising, and the initail set-up of the presets via an app is not an issue for family use - they basically just play the same 2 or 3 BBC radio streams all the time. Cheers. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
@cpd73 Perfect sense - thanks. That sounds close to what I'm looking for . LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
agbagb wrote: > Questions. If you have those button streams programmed (good!) and > streaming and you then stream something to it from LMS via, eg, Airplay, > what happens? Does the LMS first have to positively connect to the > device, and thus override the locally playing stream? Just tried it and last one wins. I booted it up and started playing preset 2 (tapped twice on the heart). Left it running for around 30 secs and then picked a different station via LMS favourites and sent it to the LMS device representing the Airplay portion of the device and it took over the device. > And what happens if then you press a device-based stream button? Does > that simply override the incoming LMS data? Or is a a question of > menu-selection to switch the device from one source to another? (If > that all makes sense - it's "ease of use" for non-experts that's a big > issue here) Tried that as well ... while LMS was playing to it via Airplay, I hit the heart once and it switched back to the last favourite that it was playing (favourite number 2). There is a small set of dots on the touch display that shows you which favourite you have currently selected. Press once for the last one (since boot or 1) tap again for 2, again for 3 etc and then at 5 it cycles back around to 1. The device has a web interface but it is (officially at least) only for device initial set-up for people who do not have a mobile phone that works with their app. However, you need the app to manage the favourites on the device (although I expect someone could reverse engineer the interface). Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
agbagb wrote: > Questions. If you have those button streams programmed (good!) and > streaming and you then stream something to it from LMS via, eg, Airplay, > what happens? Does the LMS first have to positively connect to the > device, and thus override the locally playing stream? And what happens > if then you press a device-based stream button? Does that simply > override the incoming LMS data? Or is a a question of menu-selection to > switch the device from one source to another? (If that all makes sense > - it's "ease of use" for non-experts that's a big issue here) I have 2 Libratone Zipps, so I'll answer. To play from LMS you just select a track to play (in LMS's UI), and the speaker will switch to 'AirPlay' - from there you can press the 'bird' icon (on the speaker) to play/pause, and use the prev/next buttons (again on speaker). To play a stream you press a 'heart' icon (on the speaker), and it flashes 1 of 5 small dots to let you know which favourite - you press the 'heart' to go to the next. If LMS (AirPlay) was active then LMS is paused and the stream plays. To resume LMS playback you need to use an LMS controller, but the speaker will automatically switch. Hope that makes sense. *Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here. cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Questions. If you have those button streams programmed (good!) and streaming and you then stream something to it from LMS via, eg, Airplay, what happens? Does the LMS first have to positively connect to the device, and thus override the locally playing stream? And what happens if then you press a device-based stream button? Does that simply override the incoming LMS data? Or is a a question of menu-selection to switch the device from one source to another? (If that all makes sense - it's "ease of use" for non-experts that's a big issue here) LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
agbagb wrote: > Interesting - but makes the whole thing less portable Always a > challenge to figure out quite complex uses without "hands on" > experience; and those rather handsome AudioPro Addons are all just a few > more bucks than I want to drop on a whim. OK - next option ... I have a Libratone Zipp (the original one not the Zipp 2 and not a mini) that I bought 2nd hand for around 45GBP including shipping (it is heavy). It has a touch sensitive control on the top and by touching the illuminated heart symbol you can pick one of 5 presets. They are direct stream URLs that I entered via their app - LMS does not need to be involved. It also supports Apple AirPlay and works with LMS via AirPlay Bridge (it also has UPnP but I did not try that). It even has Bluetooth - so you can play to it from a phone. Oh - and it has a 3.5mm socket so that you can play from other devices via a cable. and not to forget ... a USB socket that can play from a USB disk or Apple device (not tried this). The internal battery runs for at least 2 hours (in my case) and when running from the power socket it also charges the battery. I might have been lucky in that the old battery in it still holds charge. It is a bit taller than 2 stacked toilet rolls and weighs a lot more - and puts out a lot of noise for its size. I think that the Zipp 2 has Alexa built-in - and goes for more. Check carefully for the other features in case they have changed over the years. I use it outside in the summer - and I found it had a WiFi range that was a bit less than a modern phone. For what I paid for it ... it is very good. Going for used equipment can be a bit of a lottery - but this is one that I was pleased with. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
Paul Webster wrote: > Could the "buttons" be nearby? > If yes then there are ways of doing it - for example NFC card reader and > a bunch of NFC cards that represent different radio stations. > Then to press the button, the user simply drops the card onto the card > reader. You still get to manage things because someone has to associate > each card with an action. > > If it would take too long to find the right card ... then physical > buttons could be done as well. > > Projects for this often involve enabling kids to kick off actions. Interesting - but makes the whole thing less portable Always a challenge to figure out quite complex uses without "hands on" experience; and those rather handsome AudioPro Addons are all just a few more bucks than I want to drop on a whim. LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
agbagb wrote: > > Assorted family members want to push a button on the device, and get > either radio or music steaming service output. And they prefer those > button presses to be on determined presets, rather than scroll menus. Could the "buttons" be nearby? If yes then there are ways of doing it - for example NFC card reader and a bunch of NFC cards that represent different radio stations. Then to press the button, the user simply drops the card onto the card reader. You still get to manage things because someone has to associate each card with an action. If it would take too long to find the right card ... then physical buttons could be done as well. Projects for this often involve enabling kids to kick off actions. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Recommendations for kitchen
I'm on the lookout myself for a small-form, rather portable "kitchen" device to replace (and hopefully upgrade, in terms of audio quality)a SB Radio. As others have noted, if I am prepared to control the functions from either LMS itself or from a phone / pad app, then there are many choices. As ever, the best sounding one I've had a chance to actually try - surprisingly, to me, a friend's little Sonos Roam - had lots of advantages (good battery, chic, small) but a huge drawback (no 3.5mm input, which for me is a necessity for assorted reasons.). But there are others However, I wonder if, as in my case, "family circumstances" matter? Assorted family members want to push a button on the device, and get either radio or music steaming service output. And they prefer those button presses to be on determined presets, rather than scroll menus. And always available, without any messing about. SB Radio and indeed Touch (I've never had a Boom or a Transporter) do that; and they also allow me to fiddle and fine tune the system, plus to play a pretty large server-based private music / audio drama collection. But, if I go to one of the many systems that allow audio via LMS and eith AirPlay or UPnP bridges, whereas that's fine for me, there will be a Family Revolt !!! They are just not doing LMS or assorted Apps as control. So, I'm now looking at things like the AudioPro Addon series, which - so far as I can see - can be set up to be controlled by buton presses and presets from the box itself, but which also can have LMS-sourced stuff easily pushed to them via a plug-in, by those who are handy with all that. The question is, can the device do both at once, without extensive "re-setting"? We do not want family screams of "who's been messing with my kitchen radio gain". LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
