Re: [slim] New approach to dead Boom / SB3 (Classic) / Transporter
Curious, what's the model number of the device? alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
Do you think I should offer him to try a SqueezeAMP? It's tempting but first it is not a commercial venture (by no means) and second, it is very unlikely going to fit his expectations of audio quality so it might be a waste of time with frustration for everybody. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
MrC wrote: > If you have an extra, I would be interested in one. I'd like to have a > modern unit to eventually replace a Touch, should one of my 2 devices > succumb to old age. I'd like to get a head start coming up to speed on > the requirements for such a unit. > > I'm not concerned about the cost. I'd need simultaneous optical and RCA > out, Ethernet, but don't care about WiFi. I almost never look at the > display since it lives in my server cabinet with the whole house audio > amps and other equipment. Any reasonable case would be fine. I run LMS > on my Mac. > > I'm not a hardware guy, and although competent enough to do assembly, > I'd prefer to avoid breaking out in cold sweats trying to do anything > more than snapping parts together and basic wiring. > > I've read through this thread, and the others, but still feel uncertain > enough that I need to ask - would this unit meet these needs, and what > would you recommend? If you need Ethernet, then the SqueezeAMP is not going to work without a fair bit of hardware tinkering, so I would not recommend it LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New approach to dead Boom / SB3 (Classic) / Transporter
JoeMuc2009 wrote: > Hi all, > > just wanted to let you know that I had some interesting experiences > recently. It started with a shock when once again I had done SMD > capacitor replacement on multiple SB3s and the dropout rate was extreme. > Five separate devices, all would boot but crash and reboot once they > were commanded to start playback. Three of them "died" somewhere between > the moment I detached the CPU board to do the capacitor replacement and > the moment I put it back together to test. Three! They would do what > every dead SB3 does, show a very dim TOSLINK, no connectivity, no > display. And that despite the fact I hardly ever touched the CPU board > at all. > I still can't explain how it got to this three times in a row (even > five times in a row earlier which had me so depressed I would almost > quit). I wore a grounding wrist strap all the time. I discharged the > capacitors before replugging the CPU board. Used current limiting for > the first startup to ensure that a short won't blow anything up. Used an > IR camera to look for hotspots during powerup. So that was a bit > awkward. The devices were sent to me for repair and shortly after the > repair they would fail and be much worse than they initially were. One > of them had run a firmware update, then restarted and was normal for a > short period of time before it failed. Which brought me to an idea. > Just out of curiosity I extracted the Flash EEPROM from one of them and > put it in my reader. Compared to a known-working SB3 there were a lot of > differences, at least in the first blocks and, expectedly, where the > configuration is held. But I would not assume that the bootloader or > whatever is read first from the Flash is very different between > identical devices. So I attempted to flash the working image to the > EEPROM that was suspected corrupt, with erase first and eventual > verification of course to ensure that it isn't the chip itself that is > at fault. Then soldered the chip back in and, what do you know, two out > of three SB3s were recovered! A Boom PCB is under repair currently, I'll > try the same thing there as the hardware arrangement around the CPU is > similar to that of the SB3. It looks like what I used to call "CPU > death" actually isn't the CPU but the Flash memory for some reason. I > don't know why it happens. It should only be written to during > configuration and during firmware updates, but something during the > repair seems to cause a partial corruption. It's a pity that the EEPROM > needs to be desoldered and put back in place as this can only be done > once or twice before the board gets damaged. But it's way better than > attempting to reflow the CPU which I never succeeded at, and most of the > time it might not even be the component at fault. The EEPROM is not easy > to handle thanks to its 0.5mm (or so) pin pitch but way easier than the > BGA stuff under the CPU. > I have too little experience yet to document this or proclaim it as one > of the first measures to fix, and due to the complexity of the operation > it should rather be considered a last stand, but still. There is a lot > of new hope for the stack of failed SB3s and Booms I have around, and > I'll let you know how I fare with it. > > Cheers, > Joe That's excellent news! I wrongly thought that you already compared flash content in the past. I don't have my programmer here but I'll try as soon as I can get it LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
Also don't forget that we also have this vital forum and community of music fans, hi-fi enthusiasts and technology hobbyists that keeps our Squeezeboxen running! Pi4 w/Allo Boss 2 Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 8.2 Router: Netgear R700P File Storage: Samsung T5 SSD Music Service: Qobuz Logitech Boom Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
mightaswell wrote: > > I could rant and rave about how happy I am I got into LMS. So could I but I'm a little understated. Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip. Lounge: Naim NDX with Touch as controller, Naim NAP 180, NAC 82, NAPSC, HiCap, Shahinian Arc speakers Kitchen/outside: Chromecast audio, Azatom iBigBoy 2 (500W) And... SB+, radios & tons of Chromecasts... all run from LMS and controlled via Material Skin on any nearby device and a couple of Touchs. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
mightaswell wrote: > Coming from someone without any Squeezebox hardware, not only does LMS > serve as an economical alternative to Roon, it also beats Roon in a few > areas. > It beats Roon in virtually every area. The only obvious advantage of Roon is (slightly) less requirement for technical nous. LMS does require a very small amount of technical ability in terms of installing plugins, configuring them to work together, building RasPi endpoints from PiCorePlayer, etc. Roon has got "plug 'n' play" a little more polished. But that's it as far as I'm concerned! amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New approach to dead Boom / SB3 (Classic) / Transporter
Hi all, just wanted to let you know that I had some interesting experiences recently. It started with a shock when once again I had done SMD capacitor replacement on multiple SB3s and the dropout rate was extreme. Five separate devices, all would boot but crash and reboot once they were commanded to start playback. Three of them "died" somewhere between the moment I detached the CPU board to do the capacitor replacement and the moment I put it back together to test. Three! They would do what every dead SB3 does, show a very dim TOSLINK, no connectivity, no display. And that despite the fact I hardly ever touched the CPU board at all. I still can't explain how it got to this three times in a row (even five times in a row earlier which had me so depressed I would almost quit). I wore a grounding wrist strap all the time. I discharged the capacitors before replugging the CPU board. Used current limiting for the first startup to ensure that a short won't blow anything up. Used an IR camera to look for hotspots during powerup. So that was a bit awkward. The devices were sent to me for repair and shortly after the repair they would fail and be much worse than they initially were. One of them had run a firmware update, then restarted and was normal for a short period of time before it failed. Which brought me to an idea. Just out of curiosity I extracted the Flash EEPROM from one of them and put it in my reader. Compared to a known-working SB3 there were a lot of differences, at least in the first blocks and, expectedly, where the configuration is held. But I would not assume that the bootloader or whatever is read first from the Flash is very different between identical devices. So I attempted to flash the working image to the EEPROM that was suspected corrupt, with erase first and eventual verification of course to ensure that it isn't the chip itself that is at fault. Then soldered the chip back in and, what do you know, two out of three SB3s were recovered! A Boom PCB is under repair currently, I'll try the same thing there as the hardware arrangement around the CPU is similar to that of the SB3. It looks like what I used to call "CPU death" actually isn't the CPU but the Flash memory for some reason. I don't know why it happens. It should only be written to during configuration and during firmware updates, but something during the repair seems to cause a partial corruption. It's a pity that the EEPROM needs to be desoldered and put back in place as this can only be done once or twice before the board gets damaged. But it's way better than attempting to reflow the CPU which I never succeeded at, and most of the time it might not even be the component at fault. The EEPROM is not easy to handle thanks to its 0.5mm (or so) pin pitch but way easier than the BGA stuff under the CPU. I have too little experience yet to document this or proclaim it as one of the first measures to fix, and due to the complexity of the operation it should rather be considered a last stand, but still. There is a lot of new hope for the stack of failed SB3s and Booms I have around, and I'll let you know how I fare with it. Cheers, Joe PN me if your Boom / Classic / Transporter display has issues! Blog: https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?rinli=1=1=5053304027701850753#allposts JoeMuc2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23131 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
Coming from someone without any Squeezebox hardware, not only does LMS serve as an economical alternative to Roon, it also beats Roon in a few areas. UPNP/DLNA RENDERER COMPATIBILITY Lots of good audio hardware out there that only supports UPnP streaming. Generally, the user experience controlling these devices ranges from acceptable to infuriatingly awful, particularly on iOS. LMS allows us to ditch ugly, poorly implemented OEM apps, and featureless, aging third-party controllers, and instead use Material UI, a centralized library, and standard playlists. While Roon intentionally does not support these endpoints for dogmatic reasons, the fact is that there is a very strong use-case for the Roon-like experience while streaming to a single device, bit-perfectly. And on many devices that support Airplay and UPnP (HEOS for one), only UPnP will allow hi-res and DSD, whereas the "Roon tested" workaround using Airplay will not. MULTI-ENDPOINT Continuing the previous point, LMS is nearly agnostic when it comes to endpoints. I haven't found another system that will "bridge" this variety of endpoints, not only allowing music to be played on a variety of hardware, but exposing that hardware into other ecosystems (like creating an Airplay speaker from a chromecast, or UPnP renderer from an airport express.) I can't stress this point enough. Running LMS allows my family to use Apple Music on Airplay speakers around the house, while allowing me to stream local content to those same speakers. In comparison to literally any other multi-room system, either DIY (snapcast, Volumio) or off-the-shelf (Sonos, HEOS, MusiCast), I'm not locked into any one vendor and can simply piggyback off existing speakers. I find that airplay + LMS is a great match for setting up whole home audio on the cheap. I could rant and rave about how happy I am I got into LMS. Hopefully it's around a long time. mightaswell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] text editor in piCore
The secret to getting to love vi is to use ed for a few days:rolleyes: Nano is available as an extension for those sick of typing q! Bonne chance S strebor56's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
