RE: [slim] Re: Question on Server requirements
thomas, for US licenses try http://www.ascap.com/ it should be straightforward - but let us know what the answer is... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Hitchcock Sent: 09 December 2005 06:20 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Question on Server requirements Thanks for all the advice! Sounds like a standard linux server would be able to handle 10-20 streams of music simultaneously without serious issues. I'm glad to hear that Slimserver can be configured to handle larger loads like this. I will have to talk with our computer networking department to decide whether a single server would be best for our application. Our clinic is in Wisconsin so we can't use the health practice license from the UK. Are there any similar license fees that can be paid in the U.S. to grant performance rights for music files produced from CDs? Does anyone know for sure whether there would be copyright or performance right issues involved in playing files from employee CD collections in multiple rooms in a workplace setting? It is certainly different than using the original CDs which can only be played in one place at a time. Perhaps I would need to run this past our clinic legal department to ask their advice on the issue. Sounds like Slimserver is not presently able to configure multiple user libraries, so it would be difficult to limit file usage in any easy fashion. Our clinic tends to be very conservative on any issues like this, so I hope it is not something that torpedoes the whole idea. -- Thomas Hitchcock -- -- Thomas Hitchcock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1759 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18903 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ Scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by Conosco. http://www.conosco.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Question on Server requirements
thomas, in the UK you wouldn't need this complexity - simply get a licence from the Performing Right Society to play CDs in a health practice - £61.40 a year for 9 seats http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/redirect.asp?targetitem=3151subjectId=837 - seems pretty reasonable rgds ben My thinking was that we would ideally only allow each room to access the portions of the music that someone working in the room actually owns. My assumption is that we would be technically breaking copyright rules to allow everyone unlimited access to the entire collective database. My plan was to allow surgeons or staff in the rooms to bring in CDs they own to be added to the server in different directories, and then allow customized playlists for individual surgeons or staff members that would access only their own music. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] hosted music storage service - mp3tunes (oboe)
From the founder of mp3.com, linspire, etc: a personal music locker to store all your music and make it accessible from anywhere on any device. Unlike my.mp3, users are required to upload all their own files http://www.mp3tunes.com/ It will sync your tunes between devices and stream to a software player (if you can get any of it to work) i asked Michael Robertson the obvious question: Slimserver is definitely on our list to support! -- MR so who's for a hosted slimservice? solves a lot of consumer problems (installation, configuration, noisy fans, large disks, upgrades, etc) - just waiting on adsl upload speeds... __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
Has anyone done any usability testing on the slimserver web UI? If users are making mistakes, especially the same ones, look to the UI not the user Let's help by trying it on some non-techie friends and reporting any problems... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrfantasy Sent: 30 November 2005 19:49 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: a positive SB3 review It seems the reviewer had badly tagged MP3s (which looked like they were downloaded from a p2p service judging by the obvious misspellings in the artist and song names) and he hadn't learned about browse artists, albums, genres or years. He did the same thing in his SB1 review. Perhaps Slimserver is better with music you've ripped yourself that is accurately tagged (or filed) with album and artist info. But still, you'd hope a reviewer like this would at least identify the issue more clearly. Perhaps there are some limitations with badly tagged music that this shows, but you're then likely to have it with any networked music player. -- mrfantasy --Mike -- -- mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18651 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ Scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by Conosco. http://www.conosco.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] a positive SB3 review
agreed but who does RTFM and how many consumers last more than 10 mins with a new gadget before giving up? for mass adoption, our favourite music player HAS to work quickly and effortlessly out of the box and without mass adoption, we'll all be using nooo! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Zinck Sent: 30 November 2005 19:01 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] a positive SB3 review It's nice that the review had a positive conclusion but I worry that all of it's omissions and inaccuracies might turn folks away from the SB3. It seems as though this reviewer never bothered to look at the manual or spend any time with the SB3 as he was baffled even by how to properly cue music. Ridiculous. I shot an email to the site mentioning all of the reviewer's errors. Hopefully it gets corrected so that the SB3 can shine like it deserves to. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ Scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by Conosco. http://www.conosco.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: a positive SB3 review
i did a quick usability test on the initial use of the web UI... detailed notes quotes at the bottom CONCLUSIONS I got this much in a quick, partial test - there's plenty more to learn - a straight-out-of-the-box test is needed. A poweruser will have problems but they can figure them out; the UI badly needs attention for the consumer market. I saw clear evidence of the denguru reviewer's difficulty in starting out with playing songs. The UI is based on how the tech works; it needs to be based on what the user wants to achieve. RECOMMENDATIONS A big link for new users on slimdevices.com home page An initial wizard in the slimserver web interface - tests all configs are ok - informs user about scanning process and gives a status (refreshed automatically) - tells user what to do next (ideally leads them through core actions like creating a playlist) - optionally, walks user through some basic settings - explain how the server will run whenever the computer is running; you can close window; etc Re-tag the Play and Add icon buttons in the lists to make them less confusing and hard to understand Make clickable links look clickable Give better indication of where you are in albums/artists/etc Rationalise the settings pages make them fit in a window, etc etc (lots to do here) Add a Random button to the player UI that plays a random selection from the playlist (or change the default setting...?) The sbox UI should read Press right to select Slimserver not Select slimserver Try a UI closer to itunes, with a list of playlists on the left and an easy browsing area on the right. TEST SET-UP The guinea-pig is in their mid-20s, plays music extensively from an ipod, has a BSc in Computer Systems and works as an account manager in a technical company; has never used a squeezebox or slimserver but knows what they do and understands the underlying concepts. I physically set up a squeezebox 2; the user had a computer with itunes and a library of mp3s. RESULTS I told the user to go to slimdevices.com and install the slimserver User went to slim home page; couldn't find the slimserver; went to support tab and found download button. Installed slimserver easily and selected location of music files ok [user is familiar with windows installers]. Used Start button all progs slimserver to bring up slimserver browser. User paused here - not sure what to do - then saw still scanning text: i need to wait. Does the size of the folder matter? [Note that this page doesn't refresh itself, so you wouldn't know when scanning had stopped] i have no idea what to do now - user looking at the slimserver home page. [the squeezebox which i'd set up earlier was stuck at can't find slimserver] user clicked Help Getting started and slowly figured out how to get the squeezebox to find the slimserver: is that the right right button? [on the remote control] back to the slimserver UI: user clicked the current playlist's Download button to get something to happen. Then clicked Browse Albums, drilled all the way down to a song page (left pane), and clicked Play on the Music Player (right pane) - no effect - then play this song link on the song page On the song page: How do i get back to my album? Clicked on the genre listed on the song page and got a long list of albums User then held mouse over play and add icons next to the albums: What does this button do? - figured out first that the add button saves the song for later on the playlist and play button plays the song just for now. With some experimentation, user figured out the difference. User then tried to stack up some songs to play. After some clicking around: i can have all album or none at all, they're individual songs, oh no just albums, you can only select individual tracks if you go to albums, not artists, That's really strange. User finally realised that unless i hover over an album i don't know it's a link, it just looks like text like all the rest That's a bit crap when saw track names had track numbers added in front [the default setting] Do you think random and shuffle are different? - user wants to play random songs from the play list all night but figured out by experimenting that Shuffle just loops the same track order. I told user There is a setting for this - user found Player Settings, searched (didn't like scrolling down the settings pages). If you told me there was a setting i'd tell you you were lying. Finally tried Server Settings, then tried Behaviour and found the setting quickly. There should be a random button on the player I don't know difference between server and player settings [from someone who project-manages server installations for small businesses] will the music stop when i close the window? [from someone who knows what a Windows Service is] i asked whether the user preferred the slim UI or itunes: itunes, because you have a list of playlists and you simply drag and drop the tunes into it; browsing the tunes is easy
[slim] a positive SB3 review
http://www.denguru.com/2005/11/30/squeezebox_for_in_home_music_distribut ion/ (sister site of Tom's Hardware) generally very positive: It is scary how much thought has been put into making the Squeezebox a useful audio tool but he makes the point that the slimserver setup process is not very intuitive if you have to go into the server setup area... although these setup pages are familiar to most of us, a useability expert would find plenty to improve - anyone know a tame one? he also complains about the process of adding songs to the playlist, which looks like a misunderstanding - ie another user interface issue the only other black mark is the rescan time... to me this is a HUGE PROBLEM that should take priority over any new features __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Interesting link in svn trunk
lovely! let's hope the new look gets it on some magazine front covers a wall mount and clip-on side speakers would make a perfect one-cable minisystem... then snap a battery pack on the bottom for a boombox... please? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of max.spicer Sent: 24 October 2005 13:10 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Interesting link in svn trunk It does look good, but the height would definitely be a problem in some situations. The SB2 that's connected to my hifi fits nicely into a gap on top of another device. With the new one, I wouldn't be able to fit it in. However, I'd like to put a product in my bedroom and kitchen, coupled with some small speakers. The new product would go very well in this situation. I imagine they'll keep offering the classic case, so this won't be an issue. Max Craig, James (IT) Wrote: I like that the headphone socket has moved to the back, and the arial has gone. My SB2 looks rather untidy now I've an IR Blaster sticking out of the headphone socket. I don't like the extra height though! James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by MPC SteadyTech. For more information please visit http://www.mpcsteadytech.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Interesting link in svn trunk
802.11g as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michaelwagner Sent: 24 October 2005 15:46 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Interesting link in svn trunk mherger Wrote: Interesting thought! I think the new formfactor might be easier to be integrated in some kind of slimblasterdock...I was going to say it would make it easier to mount in my DJ case ... but the leaked document doesn't contain dimensions... As long as it didn't get any wider, I should be OK mounting it on 19 rack face plates ... -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by MPC SteadyTech. For more information please visit http://www.mpcsteadytech.com __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Totally OT - Songs about money
paul, try http://www.lyricsfreak.com/ where you can search the titles. they link to other sites where lyrics may be searchable -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PAUL WILLIAMSON Sent: 21 September 2005 12:58 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Totally OT - Songs about money Pardon the interruption, but this is probably the best group to ask this question of... I need songs that have the word Money somewhere within the lyrics. I just got asked this morning to make up a CD filled with them. The only problem is, I can only think of a few songs: Money by Pink Floyd Take the Money and Run by The Steve Miller Band Money for Nothing by Dire Straits Mo Money Mo Problems by Notorious B.I.G. Money, Money, Money by Abba It's Money That Matters by Randy Newman No Money No Honey by Beck Money by Yes Questionable: The Money Song by Monty Python This is what I've got from slimserver on my box. The CD is for a homecoming themed class activity, and I think these songs are ok for high school kids, I just need more of them. Thanks, Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System provided by MPC SteadyTech. For more information please visit http://www.mpcsteadytech.com __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remotely configuring a SB's slimserver IP
is there any way to remotely connect to a squeezebox and configure the IP of the slimserver? further, is there any way to remotely reboot a squeezebox? these would help when trying to support a squeezebox remotely - it will get a network connection via dhcp easily, but if the slimserver's on a remote network you need to set the server's ip manually, which is a pain to talk non-techies through. and sometimes you need to reboot them to get them to reconnect some form of magic packet perhaps? i'm assuming that you have access through the firewall to the local network ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Snooze!
how about: for an hour after an alarm a short hit on the red remote button = snooze 10 mins? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Sherman Sent: 11 March 2005 13:30 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: [slim] Snooze! So now that the price of squeezeboxes is going to plummet in the secondary market, I have visions of sugar plum faeries dancing through my head, filling every room in my house with a squeezebox. I'm thinking a squeezebox in the bedroom could replace my existing CD/Clock/Radio, using the Alarm plugin, except for one thing: it has no snooze button! Is it possible to rig something up to the Geekport on the SB1 that will act as a snooze button for an alarm clock? I'm not afraid of a bit of light soldering or light perl hacking to make this work, if anyone has any ideas. Ideally, I'd end up with a nice big button I can bat in a state of semi-sleep. Possibly two -- one for snooze, one for off, though I suppose a click-hold could be used for off. Everything else (setting the alarm time and playlist) can be done with the remote or web interface, since I'll be awake when doing that part. - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] The Slim Wiki - We can make this an excellent source ofinformation
Title: Message wikis are great but using a markup language for formatting is a bit too retro - adding one of the wysiwyg html editors makesa big difference in getting more people to add content From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.A. BoutonSent: 07 March 2005 13:45To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.comSubject: [slim] The Slim Wiki - We can make this an excellent source ofinformation I am a firm believer in Wikis. The one you've chosen - TikiWiki is a bit daunting for new users, but can be overcome - and is really really useful. Once it gets started and rolling it can provide a much more organized way to find out information on slimserver et all, answering the tedious questions you must get day in and out. Because I have been gathering bits and pieces recently, and frustrated at having to search through pages of forum material - very very useful but difficult to filter, I have taken kdf to heart, and have been plugging away and editing and adding some wikipages, including putting up some slimserver documentation. Hope thats ok. I would suggest you make the wiki a direct link from the header under http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_* along with resources/forums/plugins etc Regards Katherine _ kdf said I thought the idea of a wiki was to let any jump in and contribute, making it a living, organic document? Many of the Slim staff have indicated that keeping up with the volume of email is hard enough, I would expect overseeing the wiki would also be difficult. I would expect, given past expressions on this subject, that contribtutions are wanted on everything. If you are willing to accept me as a ad hoc proxy, here is the list of things I can think of off the cuff: Configuration data: compare setups, scan times, etc linux startup scripts for various flavours (gentoo, Suse keep coming up on this list) Plugin Ideas (great for anyone looking to try out server development but lacking a concrete idea). Howto's, for things like FAAD setup, or AlienBBC on mac/windows. -kdf -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net __This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1
great news, looking fwds to the new features a few bugs with duplicate info in the web interface http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849 it still seems to use a lot of resources - opening teh Browse Albums page from the home page takes 6 secs of 100% cpu, with 15000 songs, 4000 albums on a 2.4GHz XP machine with 640MB ram -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sully Sent: 24 February 2005 03:00 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Cc: Slim Devices Developers Subject: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1 This is an alpha release of SlimServer 6.0 - we feel the software has gotten to a point where it's stable enough to announce to a wider audience. SlimServer 6.0 is a major upgrade to the server software - with a faster database, smaller memory footprint, better searching, and more 3rd party integration. Download here: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/SlimServer_v6.0a1/ We value and need your feedback in order to make a solid and rich product. Please file any bug reports on http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ Thanks! --- SlimServer 6.0 Alpha Release Notes: Usability Features: * Added a Browse by New Music to the web UI. * Extracting Conductor, Composer and Band metadata. * Comments are available and searchable. * Fixed the Greatest Hits problem - multiple albums with the same name. * Files removed from disk are deleted from the database on a rescan. * Combined Artist, Album Track search into one interface. Search results are live - no submit button needed. * Added Advanced Search - for complex queries. * The Add button will clear the playlist if you hold or just press it. Integration: * Addition of MusicMagic Mixer integration. * Improved MoodLogic iTunes importers. Internationalization Translations: * Full UTF-8 server support. * Japanese translation (Thanks Ken!) - available in the Web UI only. * Updates to: German - Michael Spanish - Nestor Swedish - Peter Performance Memory usage: * MP3 scanning has been optimized even more. * Memory footprint reduced considerably, and stays constant even with large (100k track) libraries. Platform Support: * Added binary modules for Debian Woody (stable) SuSe i586 * Windows binaries use perl 5.8.6 - previously was 5.8.3 File Formats: * FLAC / Cuesheets - Improved support for internal external cuesheets. * Apple lossless files may have a binary tag for genre. * Monkey's Audio support (Currently Windows only) Backend Database: * Massively improved library scanning speed resource consumption. * Fast and complex searching ability. Developer API changes: * New DataStores API - allowing access to the backend database, and other plugable data stores. This replaces most of the old Info API. * Add non-blocking HTTP requests. This will allow requests to external sources to not interrupt the currently playing audio. Update plugins to use the new API. Any Plugin that wishes to make a HTTP request (GET or POST) should use this API. * Changes to the string() API - $client-string() should be used where $client is available. Plugins should return the token for getDisplayName() rather than the string itself. Command Line API: * Extended CLI, allowing more access to server information - Fred. Skin Developer changes: * browseid3 has been deprecated by browsedb. * songinfo.html prefers an item (id), but can still deal with an itempath. SoftSqueeze: * Now at version 1.17 Improved buffering when playing Internet radio stations. (playback starts if bufer is 5% full after 5 seconds) Increased the JavaSound audio buffer size when using the primary sound driver, this may improve playback on some PCs. Improved the JavaSound audio buffering, it should now be much harder to get buffer under runs. Add support for Sun's new Java MP3 Plugin. Upgraded JLayer MP3 library to version 1.0 Added ssh gateway server. (Patch from Avi Schwartz). Added ssh proxy (socks5 and http) support. (Patch from Ben Fried) Use simple encryption to store ssh password, it used to be stored in the clear. Added a playlist mode to the music search (still work in progress). Added an 'Escape' keyboard shortcut to exit fullscreen mode. Fixed java web start desktop shortcut and menus. (Java 1.5 only) Fixed bug that caused the slimproto connection to drop. (Patch from
RE: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1
yes, after it's finished scanning. the timing repeats consistently and the machine was freshly reloaded with XP MCE a few weeks ago (the media centre is not running) -Original Message- it still seems to use a lot of resources - opening teh Browse Albums page from the home page takes 6 secs of 100% cpu, with 15000 songs, 4000 albums on a 2.4GHz XP machine with 640MB ram is this after the approximately 20 minutes or so to complete the scan of all data for the creation of the database? as a datapoint, I have 10k tracks, 512M pc133 ram on linux, and I dont and I see a max of 77% cpu using Top while loading browse albums in the fishbone skin, even with a full window refresh. I didn't stopwatch it, but it doesn't seem to be 6 seconds either. I'm also only at 1.6GHz. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1
no change with EN. i'm browsing from a second (local) machine, so the server load is not connected with any rendering issues. on the server, the task manager shows 100% cpu usage for 5 secs, consistently. disk is freshly defragged go on blame windows ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kdf Sent: 24 February 2005 10:41 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: RE: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1 Quoting Ben Gladstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: yes, i get the same behaviour using the slimserver browser, IE and firefox. changing the skin to fishbone doesn't affect the time taken to show albums actually, fishbone skin probably isn't an example of quick rendering :) what about http://serverIP:9000/EN/ just to get the most bare bones skin. I'm trying hard not to blame windows :) -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.0a1
the standard 100 items -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sully How many items are you displaying per page? Thanks. -D -- iNoah I think someone should create a magazine for computer peripherals, called Card Driver ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
ralph, just a thought, and i'm vague on the details, but i've seen situations where two 802.11 products will not talk reliably to each other hence the non-profit www.wi-fi.org, which created the Wi-fi certification mark for the subset of 802.11 products that have been tested as interoperable. if both ends of the network (perhaps all devices on it?) are not wi-fi certified, you may have incompatible devices hopefully others with better knowledge can cut in at this point... -ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Edington Sent: 24 February 2005 21:34 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience Thanks. Still rebooting at random. My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day. Shouldn't be a factor, one would think. It just happened again -- rebooted. Even though IP is fixed and network is hardwired to B only. -d_protocol log shows: 2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762 Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision = 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3 2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox 2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 calculated rehomelength: 17 2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response Any other debugging I could set that will help? I will try different channels and see if that helps. Any help is still appreciated. RE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM To: 'Slim Devices Discussion' Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a neighbor 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems. One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the access point and see if it has an impact on the problem. Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short of a lease time to the squeezebox. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Edington Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a question... I just switched over from wired mode to wireless. I bought a Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults. Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing. Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%. No wireless phones in the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems. After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots. I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two hours. I saw the problem where there were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10 before stopping and rebooting again. Bummer. I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any sure-fire solutions. Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this reboot problem? One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it. What's the final upshot on this problem? I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet. Thanks, RE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB. I have 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no interference from microwave or 'phone. In fact both of my WAP's are on the default channel 6. I do not stream lossless but I do stream mps with no additional compression. I can now play my mp3's or internet radio anywhere in my house. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces the bandwidth requirements. The wireless performance of my Squeezebox outperformed my expectations. Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio. If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven to be quite robust. Virtually flawless in my experience. -- Daryle A. Tilroe ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Do
