[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Hi, sorry, i still dont see that there has been any major product innovation since the slimp3. You are right, they did engeneering work on the initial product, but from my perspective just a lot of minor improvements (which were all wellcome, no doubt on this). What backs my claim (at least for me) is that I am still using a slimp3 and I often thought of replacing it by one of the better looking, new models (I have a sb3 in another room). Each time I think of really replacing the slimp3 I come to the conclusion, that the slimp3 does the same as a new sb3 for me. So all the "new" prodúcts in this line are just minor improved, but none of them really opens a door to something basicaly new. If you think adding a graphical display or a wireless connection instead of just ethernet makes up a product innovation, than we might have a different understanding about innovation. Adding the obvious doesn't mean it to me. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
sorry guys, except for sean and the inner circle that benefit from the $20m this is extremly bad news. I understand that the sd management prefered to take the money instead of taking the risk of the next innovation step on their own bill. since the really great idea of a slimp3 years ago the innovation has not been at a noticeable high level (bigger display, wireless, new form factor, two of the known displays in a high-end variant, bundling with storage, better remote, ... all very obvious low risk low effort things... but nothing like a new product idea) I dont buy the statements about synergy for a second. Come on, an acqisition by sony or one of the big names in the audio or video consumer electronics would bring a boost for the sd product line, but logitech... what a laugh! But in the end - when sd really has no more ideas what products to invent - it is very straight forward to sell the bunch and to try someting new. So I hope that the talents in sd do try something new after the waiting time for the full payout has been passed. by the way, in the past i always looked at the bugs in the software with an "ok it is open source, the guys try hard and it is a small to be loved company" attitude. From now on i will measure the software quality with what i do expect from major companies. It will be interesting to see, if logitech is willing to take full responsibility for their new product which is based on software that they do not own, dont understand and even the sd dev team just partly controls! I guess that the tonality in this forum will change a lot in short time! -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter vs. SB3
Sorry for the silly question. I just directly go the forum without visiting the home section. Anyway, thanks for the answer :-) Looks much like a studio gadget, but the price is somehow out of bounds... at least for my impression. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25810 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter vs. SB3
I can't find any info about the mentioned "transporter" device via google. Any good link as a starting point would be welcome. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25810 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Poll: What is your library size and hardware
My music library contains 3230 albums with 39877 songs by 1448 artists. Server is a quite outdated P3 800 MHz, 384 KB RAM, 1.3 TB Raid 5 (6x250GB sw raid), SuSe 8.2 -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
docbee Wrote: > Putting some effort on the server side might also be an option. A ready > to go server device for the not so computer savvy user and some nice > bundeling might attract the more non-techhie music lover. At the moment > slim devices leaves this market to system integrators or folks around > the NAS products. > Whow! Just a few days after saying this, slim devices has a NAS server solution in their portfolio. What is about the other suggestions ;-))) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
If you want it really big, an included laser device that projects the text to a nearby wall might be great. I have seen a couple of cheap alarm clocks, that do this... of course just 4 digits... dont know if there are laser projection devices that can do 2x40 characters ;-) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices Squeezebox 2/3 and Sonos ZP80
Nikhil, thanks for this very interesting comparison. Do you keep the sonos as well? -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23490 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 as wireless bridge
Hi Nikhil, please write a few words about how the SB compares to the ZP80 from your point of view/experience. People like me just know the ZP80 from the specs and the sonos forum. Would be great to listen to someone who really owns both systems. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22927 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB vs Sonos
Hi, Mark and Patrick gave an excellent and unbiased comparision of the two systems. What hold me back from getting a sonos was mainly cost and the title limit (40.000 tracks at the moment). -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23217 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why doesn't Slim have a "VS the competition" page as part of it's sales propaganda?
@rudholm: one of the major drawbacks of the sonos is that it - has a number of songs limit (40k) - is a closed source product (you get what they give you) - a strange user community (I don't like the "digital expert" attitude of the most prominent posters in their forum - as well as the way the sonos staff articulates themself there) Apart from that, the the sonos controller (rf + graphical interface) is a really great idea. I don't know if any pda/770 solution for the slim will ever work that seemlessly. BTW, the price was my number 1 reason not to give it a try. As a former owner of an audiotron and actual owner of a sbwm, a slimp3 and a sb3 this might have completed my collection ;-) However, at the moment I am completely happy with my sb3. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18495 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 alu beezle falling off - how to fix it?
Hi, my alu beezle of the sb3 seems to get loose. I remember that somewhere in the forum Sean said that you can easily fix this with the help of some super glue. As I don't want to put any harm to my SB3 I just wanted to ask if there is something to keep in mind when doing the repair. Is it just pulling off the loose part, removing any glue that might be still there (how?), putting new glue at some points (which?) and putting it together? Do I risk to fold the beezele when tearing it from the SB3? Looks quite thin and not very form stable to me. Has anyone been doing this with success before? -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19464 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alpha testers wanted for Java-based server
my archive just uses v2 as v1 is far too limited. drop v1, as you can automatically convert v1 to v2, no one out there should have a severe problem with that. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19213 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alpha testers wanted for Java-based server
if you need someone with a large database (about 35.000 titles) all in mp3, I could give it a test drive. Server is running with linux, hw is p3 1GHz, 384 MB. As the current slim server has a somehow grown functionality, it might be a good idea... 1) to first specifing tag handling (it is hard to understand what slim server really does with compilations. it looks to be based on id tags and file path information as well, but no specs just an implementation that behaves somehow) 2) to have a second thought how to make the menu navigation much better. more audiotron like for example. the current drill down logic doesn't make good use of the 2 lines of the display. Any approach to get rid of this perl mess is a step in the right direction. Good luck! -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19213 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] a friendly SB3 review on thinkcomputers
They like it :-) http://www.thinkcomputers.org/v2/index.php?x=reviews&id=305 -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19107 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 Display failure!!!
Hi, my brother will bring me two sb3 on x-mas when he takes the long way from california to germany to visit my family. I am now quite concerned that importing these babies this way will bring me into serious trouble when they have a production fault like in the situation described above. Oh my god... all this shipping overhead for replacement will drive my nuts (and poor)! Up to now I thought sb's are stable products where a hw defect is something you normally don't see. But the wave of display failures building up here does make me a little nervous what to think about product quality :-( After having excellent experience with my slimp3 and the sb2 I hope the sb3's will not wipe out this impression. For international customers (that do directly buy at slim devices) problems like these are going to seriously damage reputation! Hopefully my two sb3s coming ahead will work fine. Otherwise I will be extremly disappointed! I can live with beta-sw that gets better over time, but I am not willing to live with beta-hw for serious money. As said before, I am really concerned and the happiness about getting these nice babies is mixed with fear that they might fail the next day. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18958 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Did The Boys At Slim Do A Bad Thing By Being So Customer Friendly?
enduser Wrote: > They sent me here. They told me I had not suffered enough abuse from > nasty morons. Enjoy your trip... -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18223 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Did The Boys At Slim Do A Bad Thing By Being So Customer Friendly?
Mr enduser, I don't know what kind of problem you exactly have, but it is obviously a quite serious one. Did you consider to request some professional help? -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18223 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimp3 doesn't work with Netgear WGT624
try putting the old router as a switch in betweeen the slimp3 and your new router. I had unsolvable connection problems when I changed the switch the slimp3 was connected to. 2 of 3 of my 10/100 Mbit switches don't work with the slimp3's 10 Mbit ethernet connection! My situation was somehow diffrent from yours, as I couldn't connect to the network at all. But I remember that the slimp3 once also got silent on the audio output but worked later on again. I didn't understood this mystery... may be it is some voodoo in there ;-) my "no sound" thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16213 my "no connection" thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18723 -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18784 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: slimp3 has problems with quite a few 10/100 switches
yes, it is 2.3 One of the switches it doesn't work with is a level one FSW-0507TX (5-port 10/100 desktop switch). -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18723 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] slimp3 has problems with quite a few 10/100 switches
Hi, I just moved my good old slimp3 around in the house and got some serious trouble in getting it connected to the network again. First I thought of problems with the cable or the dhcp server, but then it turns out that some of my more recent 10/100 switches do have problems with slimp3's 10 Mbit, maybe because of the half-duplex thing. It took some time until I realized this. As a matter of fact the slimp3 doesnt work with two out of three from my 10/100 mdi-x switches (all cheap fanless modells). It works ok with my gigabit switch. So, if you move your slimp3 around and get connection problems, keep this in mind. Looks to me as the never cheapo switches don't really take care of 10 Mbit. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18723 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 review on THG
Hi, Tom's Hardware has a review of the sb3 (http://tinyurl.com/apw7b. They seem to like it, but like with the most reviews they don't really get down to the full potential the sb3 has (plugins, etc.) However, at least they come to a very positive conclusion... Let's hope this fosters x-mas business for slim devices, which in turn allows them to put some more price cuts on the agenda for the beginning of next year... just kidding ;-) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18680 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Headless Linux DIY contra turnkey NAS
stinkingpig Wrote: > [color=blue]24x7 use is not that big a factor in my opinion, the > heat of 4 drives in a case designed for 1 hdd and some removable media > drives is more likely what kills the drives. sorry, not true from my experience. if a drive runs 24/7 for 2-3 years you really get a chance to see a failure. As posted befroe, this was quite a surprise to me as well... stinkingpig Wrote: > [color=blue]1) rebuilding a RAID 5 array after losing a drive takes > a very long time.Like days and days. I haven't tried it with a SOHO > RAID card and some el cheapo IDE drives, but top-of-the-line HPAQ and > Dell cards with fast SCSI drives sure do suck. true , but doesn't care. The RAID 5 is fully functional during degraded mode (lost one drive) and during resyncing a new one. THis is really a great feature that minimizes downtime. stinkingpig Wrote: > [color=blue]2) Lose two from a RAID 5 array, you've lost it all. > Since people usually build arrays by buying the same drives from the > same manufacturer at the same time, chances of losing two at once are > remarkably high. True, but if you use RAID 6 the system can cope with two faulty drives. RAID 6 comes for free as software raid with kernel 2.6 and it works great. stinkingpig Wrote: > [color=blue]3) What about subtle drive errors which produce drive > corruption? I once lost a RAID 1 mirror because the failing drive > caused file system corruption on its way out. By the time that the > drive actually failed enough for LVM to notice and take it out of the > array, the "RAID protected" filesystem was trash. In "buy two drives > and copy the content", the copy fails when one of the drives doesn't > work perfectly. If you're using hard link backups, you don't trash the > copy, so you still have a backup. You are right, if the drive does bad things without raising error conditions on the IDE channel, than you are in hell. But that is a risk you do always take. For example, if you do copy the drive to a backup drive on a device-level, than you also get the inconsistent filesystem on the backup and your are lost as well. If you do it on a filesystem level than you already have replaced a part of your backup when you get aware of the problem. So this problem is not raid specific. Up to now I did not experience this type of error with my raids. But may be I just had luck :-) The advice to copy the whole stuff to a second drive is a bit hard to realize when you have 3 TB to move around. But may be that is my specific problem as well :-)) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18555 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Headless Linux DIY contra turnkey NAS
@ceejay: From my experience raid 5 (better raid 6) is vital when you have a certain number of drives. during the last 4 years I had about 2 drive faliures a year on a total amount of about 15 drives running in total. This seems to be true regarless what kind of drive generation or manufacturer you have. I just can speak about PATA, no experience with SCSI which might be better but is out of my budget. This failure rate was a surprise to me as I never had a drive failure on my desktop computers a decade ago. For me the explanation is, that 24/7 has an impact and the presence of so many drives also raises the chance to see a drive failure. If these drives are on raid 5 I would have lost my media archive each year. This may be different on a baby NAS with 4 drives that only runs a few hours a day, but in larger setups raid 5 is a must, from my point of view. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18555 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Headless Linux DIY contra turnkey NAS
I have a setup where "give me maximum capacity for the money" is the key objective. Therefore, I didn't go with a NAS because they are going to be quite expensive when you realize 2 + 1 TB as I did. However, here are my experiences with these servers, one having 14x160 GB harddisks in linux software raid 5 and the other one having 6x250 GB harddisks. 1. Noise. They are noisy but if you have a lan/wlan in your house most times you can find a room where 24/7 noise doesn't bother (cellar, untility room, etc) 2. Hard disks: I tried maxtor, wd and samsung. Samsung are the coolest and most silent from my experience. I can very much recommend the spinpoint P80 and P120 series. When you have that much drives you will notice that some of them will fail over time. After 2 years of non-stop service I usually sell the whole bunch on ebay and get a fresh new generation. As they have 3 years of warranty you don't take a great risk. 3. Board: My server boards are good old intel 815 with p3 1GHz or less. They work very stable and don't generate much heat. performance is very well for slimserver. even real time audio conversion tasks (alienbbc for example) work well. 4. Graphics: some 815 boards have graphics on board, if not just get an older nvidia card (TNT, TNT2, MX200, etc) without active cooling. They are cheap and work well with linux. These servers are a bit outdated but they are very cost effective and generate much less heat than the actual setups. I am very sure that the TCO for 3 TB in total is much lesser than with any NAS. Having the full flexibility of linux and some processing power and as much ram as you like, these babies can do for another couple of years. I strongly recommend not to look for a quiet server solution that fits into the living room. In order to get rid of the heat will certainly not work very well (at least if you are in the TB space). Find a place for them to run behind a door in a room where you can afford some airflow noise. just my $0.02 -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18555 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can SlimServer Take Input?
Before I got alienbbc working on wma radio streams, I had a tuner beside my linux server. The tuner received the local radio station and gave this via line-in to the linux server. The server converted this via darkice (or something like that - i dont exactly remember) into an mp3 stream which I transfered via shoutcast in my lan. The slimp3 was tuned to this shoutcast stream by means of a playlist, voila... worked great, but with alienbbc i directly get the wma stream of this station into the slimp3 and the sb2 doesn't even need alienbbc anymore. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18401 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 works "sluggish"
Are you connected by wire or wireless? May be the unit works on wireless mode with your AP while you think it uses the ethernet... just guessing. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18342 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox 3 @ MPH'05 Earls Court London
radish Wrote: > I would have thought a black SB3 was the perfect dungeon accessory. in serious black leather... -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18329 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Powered speaker hum
I think the sb is grounded indirectly by the ethernet. You should use a not-shielded ethernet-cable to avoid this. Have a look at the ethernet-cable, if there is metal around the plug it is shielded. -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18224 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: When will version 6.5 be released?
After having experienced some more problems than expected with 6.2 I would very much appriciate if we don't push too hard to get 6.5 out soon. I hope they take the time they need to make it right this time ;-) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18182 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Audiotrons?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17641 Question: Audiotron(s) - Had one, but no longer have it. - Had more than one, but no longer have them. - Have one, have it still. - Have more than one, have them still. Hi redandgray, I felt the same about turtle beach and what they did with a loyal community. I always wondered how one having such a fine product in place in very early days could waste years without improving the product. When the whole thing starts, the audiotron was a good product (compared to the rio receiver, for example). -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: My SB3 shipped today
when did you order? I got no shipping info up to now. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.2 & SLIMP3 (original)
@malsbury: just did a diff on an old 5.x slimp3 firmware an the one that came along with 6.1.1. You are right, they didn't changed any single byte. This means that I upgraged to an identical version, but at least it doesn't blow the device ;-) So it remains unclear to me why slimp3 does make such a trouble for some users while it works like a charm to me and other slimserver 6.2 users. No idea at all... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Audiotrons?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17641 Question: Audiotron(s) - Had one, but no longer have it. - Had more than one, but no longer have them. - Have one, have it still. - Have more than one, have them still. You are kidding, nothing will ever stop me from complaining! That's my duty as a customer, and I take my duties very seriously... Apart from that, I would like to throw my 2 cents on the knob-issue. As a user of an audiotron, some "soundblaster wireless music" thingies, a grand old slimp3 and a squeezebox 2, I have to say that the audiotron really shines with its knob navigation. Having a slim bundled with an rf remote with display (which is the only great thing of the sbwm) and a ipod-like navigation "knob" would be heaven. Sonos is a bit going that way, but they are not in my budget and the song title limits and their very closed product approach are not what I am looking for. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.2 & SLIMP3 (original)
As my slimp3 is also working very well, I assume that your problems with 6.2 might be more general and not slimp3 specific. I remember that the previous 6.x version does come along with an updated firmware for the slimp3. May be you missed that update? I couldn't find firmware updates for the slimp3 in the 6.2 distribution, but may be I just overlooked these... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is anyone running SlimServer on a Linkstation2?
@agentsmith: the system behaves like this when it is still doing the scan for music and the build-up of the database. Are you sure that this has been completed? The web interface is giving you a notice message in the upper left area when the scan is still running. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Audiotrons?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17641 Question: Audiotron(s) - Had one, but no longer have it. - Had more than one, but no longer have them. - Have one, have it still. - Have more than one, have them still. I had one, worked mostly fine until it went dead half a year ago. Software issues and the unability to tweak the software yourself really made me unsatisfied about turtle beach over time. The limit according to the titles it can handle was very annoying, but there are stil companies that do these things wrong - like sonos for example. What I really liked about the audiotron war the turn-knob navigation at the device itself. Second thing that I loved was how they used the two display lines for navigation. The upper line was something linke a menu listing all the options to choose from. Therefore, you could directly see what options you have instead of start scrolling and see what might come (as I have to do with the slim). Together with the clickable turn-knob the handling was really a charm, even for non-geeks ;-) What about an audiotron shaped slim? Form factor and navigation would find quite some friends here. But please combine these with the inner values of our so loved slims. Just my $0.02 -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Searching for SB2 in Germany
Mark, you have a privat message from me. Please give me some indication if you are interested. Thanks! -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
Just for testing purpose I changed the following lines in Pages.pm to
get rid of the stats sql traffic each time the startpage is displayed.
lines 188-190 changed to:
$params->{'song_count'} = 'any';
$params->{'artist_count'} = 'any';
$params->{'album_count'} = 'any';
and voila, now the startpage comes without waiting for the next coffee
break ;-), which is extremly handy when working with the web
interface.
>From my perspective this stats information is never worth the
performance drawback, but I still not convinced that you can't get
both.
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[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
Dan, I don't use iTunes, maybe that's the reason why I don't understand. Do you really mean that the number of albums and artists does change in the database without doing a rescan? I had the impression that the only way to get things in/out is by initiating a rescan and therefore the stats computing should clearly be related to this function. But may be I didn't get it... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
Ben, if you don't had an issue before it is no surprise to me that you don't see an improvement. Just put another 2000 albums on top an join the club... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
I gave it a try and the application now behaves much crisper :-) What still bothers me is the long delay it takes to connect to the slimserver homepage for the first time. I can hardly believe that slimserver does count all the titles, albums, etc via sql and is not storing these values. The only way these values could change is by doing a rescan, don't they? :-( -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
That is good news. I will try this. Too good to be true, or to take it the other way round: argghhh! -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
@jlynch3: the box delivers other web content at no delay. Just slimserver is behaving that slow. @mherger: no plugins like moodlogic, musicmagic, etc. How many titles do you have in your archive? Maybe you are on the lucky side because of a smaller database? @kdf: sorry I don't want to be unfair, but from my perspektiv the response time now is indeed very poor. I just speak for my machine. Does someone have a crisp interface with a databse with more than 30.000 titles? Maybe there is a number of titles threshold where slimserver starts degrading in performance. Again, just guessing. @meyergru: Interesting, that at least gives some indication that the database runs wild. Is there an option to tell slimserver not to use sqllite but to hold everything in memory? If so, I would like to test this. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
Hi, when connecting with a browser to slimserver 6.2 it takes up to 10 seconds until the page is there. I am sure that previous versions were much faster with this. my slimserver is running on a 800 MHz P3 with 256MB of RAM. It is running on linux, I have about 30.000 titles in the database. Anyone else having this slow-down as well? Does album art have an impact on this? just guessing... I appreciate the new features of slimserver 6.x, but I hate to have this at the price of dramatically slowing down the web interface. Looks to me like the storage management of the slimserver application or the underlying perl itself doesn't handle the given amount of data too good. When I do the same things quite fast again and again on the web interface it significantly speeds up - for the moment. Very strange... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: my good old slimp3 has gone silent :-(
Don't worry, I already have a nice squeezebox 2, but for the kitchen I prefer the slim form factor of the slimp3. As our kitchen is by far not under my command, expanding the footprint of the music client will hardly pass the necessary approval procedures... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] my good old slimp3 has gone silent :-(
Hi, after years of great service my slimp3 doesn't give any music anymore. The problem occurs after resetting the unit by pulling the power plug out and in again. The vfd is still ok, remote, ethernet and gui work flawlessly, but I don't get any sound out of the rca connectors. The only thing I hear is very silent a high frequency tone which gets louder when the vfd is getting brighter. I didn't heared that hiss before. Did someone experience this before? Any standard procedures you can recommend? I love the unit so much... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
I think slim devices could easily pump up their sales volume in Europe by bundeling it with a link/tera/buffalo-station (or similar) where all the necessary configuration is already done. Many people do like the sb2, but are not enough computer savvy to get the building blocks sorted out themselves. These bundles should be pushed to market via regular audio/video electronic stores or by a dedicted online store. What comes along with going to the regalur public will be an altered upgrade policy. For these bundles there should be a "one click upgrade" via the internet, something I really like when I look at my ipcop, for example. just my $0.02 -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How much demand for an audio rack sized Squeezebox?
It is funny, the discussion about additional form factors is also a hot topic in the sonos forum. Looks like there are at least four general form factors required by the audience: 1. HiFi rack like, no amplifier included (as the audiotron was) 2. compact sized, no amplifier (slim devices, creative sbwm) 3. compact sized with amplifier (sonos, rio receiver in the past) 4. outdoor boombox with batterie, amplifier, loudspeaker (not there, yet) As the units don't sell in the millions I understand that it is a no-go to have four production lines in place for all that variations. May be a major audio brand can do it, but they still don't get right on track with their music server/client approaches. As far as I remember the users from the audiotron did not start a discussion for other packages. Slim and even more sonos have a discussion on that since the beginning. One might assume that therefore option (1) is most preferred by the users. ok, that's more a guess than a valid conclusion ;-) But I have a friend who likes his audiotron more than the slim because of its turn-knob-navigation (which is definitely cool) and the HiFi rack compatible form factor. Have you thought of selling alternative housings so that the user can easily change the case by himself according to his needs? May be the next design step is to modularize the squeezebox inner components into a module that fits into several housings slim devices can offer. Having that, would give others a chance to step in with more special and innovative housings as an after-market with housings for the pool, garden, childs, wall installed, with amplifier, with batteries, etc. just an idea... -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Sean Adams caught red handed!
Hi, if it's Sean's car we should no longer worry about slim devices financial situation as done in a separate thread :-))) -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: LinkStation as SlimServer... Performance Issues?
Hi, the linkstation or kurobox could be an ideal slimserver. I just ask myself if these little gadgets have enough resources in terms of RAM and CPU to provide a flawless music streaming and a responsive web interface for slimserver. Any experiences on this? -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Beat my setup
I just step in to underline that synchronization of music servers over the internet is a great thing. I use a similar approach where two linux music servers are automatically kept in sync via rsync. It is working really great. I included an e-mail services that keeps me informed when new stuff is transfered. It is a nice thing to start a day with reading an email mnessage that new music has been transfered to your server :-) Depending on what your local laws say, you might even be allowed to setup an network like this with familiy members or friends, what makes this even more interesting. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Building a house server?
Hi, Orb Wrote: > What do people recommend for a basic house server? > I could get my hands on an old (very cheap) Pentium 3, 600 MHz, 256mb > ram pc. I have a 200gb drive where my music is stored which would live > in the house server. > Would a machine of this (old) spec be good enough to cope with > slimserver, file sharing and maybe a broadband connection in the > future? > I am running a linux "house server" 24/7 with on a p3 800 MHz with an intel 815 chipset. With 384 MB RAM I don't even need swap (but that is another discussion) and slimserver including on the fly re-encoding of media data via lame and/or mplayer works fine. I also have a software raid 5 running on this which makes 2TB of storage out of 14 drives with 160 GB each. The P3 handles all this very well. Only if you go for software encryption by a loop device on top, then the P3 is going give up, file transfer goes really slow then. If you don't need encryption, the P3 should be fine with linux. > What do people recommend as a OS? I have an old copy of windows 98 > floating around but what about the free OS like BSD? > Any linux/unix should do, I made good experience with SuSE 8.2 (kernel 2.4). Win 98 doesn't seem to me to be a good choice for a server. If you are a friend of MS products better look for XP or 2000/2003 server so that you don't have to boot twice a day ;-) Enjoy your project! I found building a house server great fun. The hardest thing was getting the necessary approvals from my wife to occupy half a square meter for that in the utility room she is in command of ;-) -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: "complete mail quoting" makes some threads a pain to read
I can understand that the quoting style might be suitable for the maling list fraction. Therefore, I asked if this redundancy could be purged or surpressed when beeing displayed in the forum. @kdf: This is just a remark and a question. I can't see any "police kicking in" and don't understand your complaining case. May be this is a kind of humor that doesn't reach me as a non native speaker. -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] "complete mail quoting" makes some threads a pain to read
Hi, I really like the forum and think it is in general a great idea to support both: mailing lists and a modern forum. What somehow lowers my happieness is that a measurable portion of the posts (probably coming from the mailing list interface) do add useless redundancy by quoting the complete previous post. Quoting is great for referencing certain parts of a mail. But when you quote the whole mail by just pressing the reply button of your e-mail client, you are generating lots of "quote spam" which doesn't cover any information not already there and makes the threads a real pain to read. Post in a thread are more than isolated mails. They are already referenced to the previous posts by their subject. There shouldn't be a need to repeat all the things the previous post said. Is there a way to automatically purge "complete mail quoting" from the posts, at least in the forum branch? -- docbee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
