[slim] Re: Monitoring Music Database
I've written a checksum .bat program (5-10 lines with comments) that uses fsum and can recursively write checksums for each file in my directories of choice. I usually use it when moving or copying important files. I then verify the files after the move or copy with their checksum. I also use it when I write DVD's, so that I could easily check the integrity of the bits over time. It may take some time with 100's of GB's in your case, but so what. You don't have to sit there and watch it. Joe -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32163 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: tagging question
I am having similar problems with a recently purchased Samsung T9 mp3 player. Slimserver is happy with my tagging, however the T9 is very very picky. I am using MP3Tag v2.37a and have been generally happy with it. However, the T9 displays tracks alphabetically (instead of by track #) when using ID3 v2.3 tags written by MP3Tag. Not sure which is to blame, but I'll guess the T9. When using the v2.3 tags written by EAC and lame, then all is okay on the T9. I am surprised how poorly some of these portable mp3 players are implemented. Slimserver and SB3 spoiled me. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31598 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless bridge mode - does the router see the MAC behind it?
In my experience and with some research I don't believe your router will see the MAC address of the network device bridged through your SB3. I've used multiple routers with multiple different bridge wireless clients all with the same results. I have a Tivo bridged through my SB3 and the router only see's the MAC address of the SB3. The Tivo has a static IP and I have never had a connection problem to it. In addition, my server is connected to Netgear wireless client (bridge) and you only see the MAC address of the wireless client bridge and not the server. In this case, you may have problems with a router trying to provide a dhcp ip mapped to a specific MAC address when the device is behind the SB3 bridge. In small environments, there is no need to use dhcp unless you are moving devices between networks (i.e. laptop). -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Easy to use back up program ?
I use Backup Exec to backup all my systems, except for audio and video files. For video and audio I use Delta Copy which is a gui and scheduler front-end to the rsync command-line program. Delta Copy is free and runs on Windows. rsync is unix based and comes with Linux, so you have cross platform compatiability. In my environment the mp3 library is on Linux, but Samba shared to my Windows machine. So, I use Delta Copy to sync a copy to my Windows system for backup. I also sync another copy to a removeable USB hard drive, which is kept offline. Joe -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26081 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why are upgrades so painful?
Slimserver 6.3.0 is released software and is the version you first see from SlimDevices website. A new user will more then likey pick 6.3.0, and may not even be aware of the history of the older versions - especially without a little hunting around the slimdevies website. In addition, I would imagine that SD would be recommending version 6.3.0 to any new customers. I use many open-source software on the net and there are very good ones and some not so good. I find some of the good ones on the internet to be better then commerically available products. Slimserver is not bad software, so I am not sure where the disconnect is - although I have very strong suspicions. I am not sure what the root cause of the problem was, other then when v6.3.0 is oinstalled (and its latest firmware) my environment is broke. I do not have hours to burn to try and fix the issue(s). I performed some quick troubleshooting to look through the obvious stuff with not luck and went back to version 6.2.1. However, I am sure it has to do with the wireless network, which has always been solid with 6.2.1 - everything runs excellent with 6.2.1, minus any bugs with the firmware and software. I ALWAYS appreciate EVERYONE'S input, help and assistance. IMO, forums are places for people to vent, express their opinions and to ask for assistance. If venting is noise to some, then SD may consider another forum category specific to members that can voice their views - or is that what General Discussion is for. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25538 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Why are upgrades so painful?
Currently my two SB3's are down and I have no streaming music at all. I HAD a stable environment (minus all the bugs) prior to the upgrade from 6.2.1 to 6.3.0. I would not have expected a released version to completely kill my entire music system. I don't have all the answers yet since I just started troubleshooting the issues. I do know that both SB3's can't stay connected to the server long enough to get through a song - never had a single wireless network problem before the upgrade. Right now I am completely frustrated with Slimdevices and all the reasons, justifications and excuses for their workmanship, quality and their so-called product. The $500 investment in SB3's are completely worthless in my audio electronics. Joe -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25538 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why are upgrades so painful?
Could not fix the problems and went back to version 6.2.1. As far as I know things are back to what they were prior to the upgrade. $100 for both ... so, are you saying they are really worth $50 a piece? :-) Although, if I am not here to keep it running you will find both SB3's on eBay, since no one else in the family will be able to maintain the environment. Unplug power; hold down add button; plug power back in .. is sort of like the old Apple commerical - type c, colon, backslash -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25538 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is SB3 robust as a product?
I appreciate you sharing your experience with the forum. It is a good reminder to be careful not to accidently knock over the SB when mucking around behind the stereo equipment. That must have been a heart stopping experience. Ooch. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer Stops
Curious of the type of OS you are running slimserver on? -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Bored with Slimserver 6.2.1
mherger Wrote: The last officially released software (slimserver 6.2.1 and f/w 28) was five months ago. Seems a bit lengthy. I prefer released software (no nightly or beta), because I don't want to tinker and troubleshoot - It's All About The Music of course. Hmm... I don't understand: you don't want the adventurous pre-release experience, but assume stable software boring? Please explain your problem... :-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) No problems, just general discussion. I monitor the forums on a regular basis and see lots of problems and bugs that are being fixed. I also see new features put into nightly builds and beta versions. It would nice to have some of those in a officially released stable version. Five months seems long, especially when comparing to the prior release history. Slimsever is stable, but I can repeatly make both my SB3's lockup by simply pressing the ffwd button on my remote - I have to pull the power cord to clear it. I would actually use the ffwd function if it didn't lock the SB3. Not to mention the occasional problem like an MP3 song that just decides to stop playing - I wasn't cooking with the microwave or talking on my cordless phone. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23104 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Bored with Slimserver 6.2.1
The last officially released software (slimserver 6.2.1 and f/w 28) was five months ago. Seems a bit lengthy. I prefer released software (no nightly or beta), because I don't want to tinker and troubleshoot - It's All About The Music of course. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23104 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: A Silly Poll
forty-two going on twenty-two -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22941 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fast forward not working with WMA files
I can lockup both my SB3's when I use ffwd and streaming mp3 and/or flac. I am running 6.2.1 f/w 28. I have to pull the power plug to reset. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22411 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 stopped working - (long)
I had a similar problem with my SB3 a couple of weeks ago. Frustrating experience! Although, slimserver was working fine from the web interface I bounced the processes (Linux) and everything worked again. I have never really seen SlimDevices respond to stability issues that customers continually bring up. We all know that there are repeatable problems. There should be patch releases that fix bugs in the current release and not just put into a un-released nightly build. I am running 6.2.1 and waiting for the next official release. Like you, I rather listen to the music to tinker with it. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22341 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 stopped working - (long)
kdf Wrote: Quoting joek joek.2534i01143054002 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: I have never really seen SlimDevices respond to stability issues that customers continually bring up. We all know that there are repeatable problems. There should be patch releases that fix bugs in the current release and not just put into a un-released nightly build. a patch release is EXACTLY what the 6.2.2 builds are. They are not official until certain target problems are solved (ie, Slim responds to issues). -k The last offical release 6.2.1 was over 4 months ago on Nov. 16, 2005. I am hopeful that a new official release is coming out shortly that fixes some of the ignoring bugs. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22341 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Linksys's new Slim-killer
Linksys music bridge will make its way to BestBuy, CC, CompUSA, etc... where Linksys has a big marketing presence. That should help boost their sales. I had not prior knowledge of slimdevices and came across them when researching the Roku box. Being able to buy Roku in BestBuy had some appeal because of the fact I could return it easily if it didn't meet expectations. Of course the SB 30 day guarantee fixed that. There are consumers out there that don't do research prior to buying and therefore may not know of the existence of the SB. BTW, I own two SB3's and am generally happy with them. IMO, I think they are a bit pricey and the overall solution could be more robust. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21466 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Tagging question
I rip my cd's then check them with MP3TAG before moving the files to my slimserver music directory. I've used MP3TAG for some time and pretty happy with it. And it's free. http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ I am in no way affiliated with them. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21243 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicMagic Mixer: What do you think?
kdf Wrote: Quoting Pale Blue Ego Pale.Blue.Ego.238b6d (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: I've been trying out MMM for a week or so. It does a pretty good job of building playlists, but I can't figure out how to send them to slimserver. Maybe it's because I'm running slimserver on Linux and MMM on Windows. Does MMM have to be running on the same machine as slimserver? There is a remote access feature of the API, but it isn't very practical. For any practical use of most features, you would want them on the same computer. If MMM detects a slimserver install, you can right click the play button and choose from a list of slimserver players. REcent versions have only worked for sending to the first player in the list, but I believe this is fixed with the released 1.5. -kdf I believe it is a requirement to have MMM and Slimserver on the same box. Make sure you are using MMM v1.5, since I think the older version had problems sending playlists to SB. Also, make sure you have slimserver running before starting MMM. In MMM, right click on the play button in gui to select SB. Could also try -slim command line option when starting MMM. I am running MMM v1.5a with Slimserver 6.2.1 on Linux and able to send mixes to two SB3's without any problems. Although, I had no success with the previous released version of MMM. BTW, the MMM API service does not have to be running unless you want to do the mixes from SB remote or gui. I would recommend getting other pieces working first before running the API service. Joe :-) -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21106 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox3 seems very buggy
CardinalFang Wrote: I must admit I can see both sides to this. I bought into the community and open source nature of SlimDevices because I like to tweak and modify my setup, but I can also see how someone seeing the SB in a review would not expect to have to touch a damn thing after installation. There is a dilemma here, to be more successful for those people who want to install and leave alone, then it has to be a lot more solid out of the box. No matter how many times you can point to inferior products, that doesn't make this one better. At the same time it still has to appeal to the community that contribute and therefore be fast moving. I personally think the answer is to have much more solid and well-tested releases for more general users, rather than enthusiasts. These would be updated a lot less often and be more rigorously QA'd. The nuts like me who like to live on the bleeding edge can carry our with the nightlies and betas and scratch our heads when it doesn't work. I know it's kind of like this already, but I think the builds for people who don't want to fiddle need to be more robust. The fact that Roku are tied to products like iTunes gives them that. Paul Well put! Having a stable turnkey solution is appealing for the consumer who simply wants to play their encoded music on their stereo. May be not a whole lot of options and features, but easy configuration, setup and operation. At the same time, having the SB and slimserver pieces available for hackers to make code changes or enhancements is appealing to a different group of consumers. As an example, TiVo boxes can be hacked and modifications made (voids warranty) or you can simply enjoy the system the way it was designed. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20773 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Which format puts heaviest demand on SB?
I want to be able to stress test and am curious as to which of the audio formats would provide a heavy load on the SB3? Would it be FLAC, since the SB3 would have to uncompress a large audio stream before playing? Thanks! -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Which format puts heaviest demand on SB?
Thanks for the replies and sorry for the confusion. I am currently running two wireless SB3#8217;s playing MP3#8217;s (VBR highest quality setting) and have not experienced any network drops or skips in the audio. I feel confident my network, server and SB can easily manage these MP3 streams. I just wanted to make sure my environment (server, network, SB) as a whole can handle the most extreme cases when streaming audio. Based on Mark#8217;s reply, wav audio format is probably the most demanding on the network (and possibly server), since it is streaming at 1440 Kbps. Good starting point for me to run some wav streams through my configuration. What do you mean by stress? stress - try: test the limits of -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20825 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicMagic and multiple Squeezebox units
Predixis provided me the new 1.5 version for Linux and now it sends the playlist to the proper SB3. I really like the concept of MMM, but have some reservations. For $20, I'll probably just go for it. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20007 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicMagic and multiple Squeezebox units
Additional comments here: http://forums.predixis.com/index.php?showtopic=1463 -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20007 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] MusicMagic Mixer Analysis Tag
I am new to MMM and was wondering what most people did with the analysis and fingerprint information. Do you place it in the mp3 file as a tag or let MMM write it to a separate file? The tests I've done show that MMM is friendly to the mp3 file when placing information in the tag. I was succussfully able to remove the MMM tag informaton from the mp3 file and it was no different from the original. For testing I used hexdump -C and diff to verify before and after results from MMM analysis and fingerprinting. Thanks! -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20368 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicMagic Mixer Analysis Tag
BTW, I used MMM utility to remove the MMM analysis and fingerprint information from mp3 files. You can also use it to determine which mp3 files have analysis and fingerprint information by typing: ID3Cleanup0.1.7 -test -removemm The command option -test will not make any changes to your mp3 files, but just report the results. The utility also determined one of my mp3 files had a bad tag, so I fixed it with the utility. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20368 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MusicMagic and multiple Squeezebox units
I am new to MMM and just came across the same problem. I have two SB3's and MMM always sends the playlist to only one of the two SB3's (no matter which player I choose). I came across this post looking for an answer to the problem. Also, would be nice to be able to name the player in MMM instead of using MAC addresses. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20007 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Synchronization
The Grateful Dead has some long tracks which means things will start to drift. As far as I can tell SouthBridge sync is broken - according to their forums. Not sure how Sonic implements sync. I would believe synchronization is very difficult to achieve. -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19823 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Contemplating Two SB3s
Ive given SB3 a serious look by reading most all of the forum messages here and reviews sprinkled throughout the internet. Ive looked at other technologies and competitor products and am still drawn to the SB3. However, I must admit I have reservations with making an investment with the SlimDevices SB3. Ive configured the SlimServer and am successfully streaming audio to SoftSqueeze. Also, Ive successfully tested multiple SoftSqueeze clients synchronized together. This was a wonderful way to test drive everything prior to making the purchase. When I take a step back and reflect on all the information Ive reviewed there is a concern over the wireless network operation of the SB3. This is one of the unique features of the product to be able to place it anywhere you like within your wireless range. Are the wireless network problems mentioned in these forums only a very small percentage of the overall wireless SB3 users? Ive read in the forums that SlimDevices acknowledged network issues with the SB3 and they were working on fixes. Hopefully, any issues with the SB3 can be fixed in firmware. Apparently, all the previous product versions have a good reputation for reliability and stability. IMO, I would not expect to see many new problems with the SB3 since SlimDevices claims they are essentially the same device with new skins. Therefore, I would think the SB3 would just continue with the same success of the SB2. Please understand I am not here to criticize the company or the product, but rather trying to convince myself that I will not have any problems with using two SB3s in my environment. I am technically competent to deal with wireless networking issues and most other problems. However, I would like to think that other users (not as technically skilled) can simply use the SB3 and play music trouble free. SlimDevice seems to be a great company with a great product. The company obviously stands by the SB3 with a 30 day guarantee and 1yr parts and labor warranty. Also, Support appears responsive and helpful in resolving problems. Still considering two SB3s for wireless use! Joe :-) -- joek joek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19944 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
