Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-25 Thread chrisinparis


castalla wrote: 
> Simples is the way to go

Indeed, much better after a config change from router to AP :)



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-21 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Need to sort out my networking issue, as I get dropouts.  Currently
> connecting to the main router, rather than the closer AP.  I did not set
> this up, and trying to change the subnetting on the AP did not work.  AP
> is configured as a router as well, I'll look to see if I can simplify...
> Anyway minor issue (hopefully).

Simples is the way to go





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-21 Thread chrisinparis


castalla wrote: 
> Glad you've got it working

Need to sort out my networking issue, as I get dropouts.  Currently
connecting to the main router, rather than the closer AP.  I did not set
this up, and trying to change the subnetting on the AP did not work.  AP
is configured as a router as well, I'll look to see if I can simplify...
Anyway minor issue (hopefully).



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-20 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Sync is good :). 
> 
> Got a bit of networking to sort out, but for now it's OK. Was confused
> at first (as iPeng was fine), but realised a subnetting issue was
> preventing the SBT from seeing the server (even though iPeng could
> playback was fine). Once I changed network for SBT it saw my server.

Glad you've got it working





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-20 Thread chrisinparis


Sync is good :). 

Got a bit of networking to sort out, but for now it's OK. Was confused
at first (as iPeng was fine), but realised a subnetting issue was
preventing the SBT from seeing the server (even though iPeng could
playback was fine). Once I changed network for SBT it saw my server.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-20 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Thanks.
> 
> Still have to get the SBT out, but sync on SB Player and iPeng works
> quite well...

I use the bluetooth feature on my box to provide a dedicated headphone
source.





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-20 Thread chrisinparis


Thanks.

Still have to get the SBT out, but sync on SB Player and iPeng works
quite well...



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-18 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Done :). Did not find SqueezePlayer, but SB Player is available. 
> Installed, found my server and working. Then set up the Z625 with SPDIF,
> and sounds great :)
> 
> 
> Aha, how do I do that?  The settings screen does not display too well,
> but I suspect that is due to the old TV. I'll post a picture in a SB
> Player thread tomorrow.
> 
> Yes; actually plays through TV (HDMI) and through SPDIF (Z625).  So I
> just mute the TV.
> 
> 
> Good to know.
> 
> TV box does have chrome cast support.  This is all new to me (the whole
> subject area - up to till now it's been HW players, Squeezelite and
> unrealised Pi projects). Will look into it tomorrow.  Actually just
> browsing server settings / plugins, I saw it; I'll take a closer look
> tomorrow.  In any case very happy so far.  
> 
> Tomorrow I will also get out the SBT and see how well the two sync.  But
> that is for tomorrow, bed time now.  Thanks for the various help and
> tips.

Start on boot:

Settings - General - scroll down to the last few entries

I think there's also an autoconnect setting on that page

Chromecast plugin:

Just install - any found chromecast devices should appear as players.





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-18 Thread chrisinparis


castalla wrote: 
> So, install SB Player from Playstore. The TV box will become another
> squeezebox player on your LMS system. 
Done :). Did not find SqueezePlayer, but SB Player is available. 
Installed, found my server and working. Then set up the Z625 with SPDIF,
and sounds great :)

castalla wrote: 
> You can set SB Player to start when the TV box is booted.  
Aha, how do I do that?  The settings screen does not display too well,
but I suspect that is due to the old TV. I'll post a picture in a SB
Player thread tomorrow.

castalla wrote: 
> Audio will be via the TV output - unless your box has alternative audio
> outs. Yes; actually plays through TV (HDMI) and through SPDIF (Z625).  So I
just mute the TV.

castalla wrote: 
>  Bear in mind that SB Player will monopolise the sound output until it
> is disconnected. 
Good to know.

castalla wrote: 
> Just a thought - have you checked whether your TV box has chromecast
> built-in?  If so then it's easier to install the chromecast plugin in
> LMS then the box shows as a player on LMS.  It's easier to control
> from LMS than having to use the box remote on the TV screen. TV box does have 
> chrome cast support.  This is all new to me (the whole
subject area - up to till now it's been HW players, Squeezelite and
unrealised Pi projects). Will look into it tomorrow.  Actually just
browsing server settings / plugins, I saw it; I'll take a closer look
tomorrow.  In any case very happy so far.  

Tomorrow I will also get out the SBT and see how well the two sync.  But
that is for tomorrow, bed time now.  Thanks for the various help and
tips.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-18 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Yes, the TV box has access to the Play Store (already installed Plex
> from there).

So, install SB Player from Playstore. The TV box will become another
squeezebox player on your LMS system. 

You can set SB Player to start when the TV box is booted.  

Audio will be via the TV output - unless your box has alternative audio
outs. 

Bear in mind that SB Player will monopolise the sound output until it is
disconnected. 

Just a thought - have you checked whether your TV box has chromecast
built-in?  If so then it's easier to install the chromecast plugin in
LMS then the box shows as a player on LMS.





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-18 Thread chrisinparis


castalla wrote: 
> There's no squeeze player apk - it has to be installed via Playstore. 
> Same for SB Player.  Does the TV box have Playstore. 
> 
> I've used SB Player on a xiaomi TV stick - works fine.

Yes, the TV box has access to the Play Store (already installed Plex
from there).



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-18 Thread chrisinparis


Apesbrain wrote: 
> Back when they were plentiful and cheap Raspberry Pi took over for this
> purpose.  Free piCorePlayer OS works perfectly.
> 
> No reason, though, that Android player can't still do the same.

Haha plentiful, I'm still waiting on a rpi 4 from a friend!



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-17 Thread castalla


chrisinparis wrote: 
> Time to resurrect this old thread (still seems most relevant).  Through
> my ISP I have an AndroidTV box. I have acquired a Logitech Z625 which
> has a SPDIF imput.  Originally for an old Samsung TV, but I've been
> thinking that once connected to the TV box, I can install (I imagine)
> bluegaspode's Squeezeplayer App and voila I have a player for the living
> room.  Will try out in the next couple of days and report back.
> 
> Or, 9 years after the original post, is anyone carried on with
> this/doing this?

There's no squeeze player apk - it has to be installed via Playstore. 
Same for SB Player.  Does the TV box have Playstore. 

I've used SB Player on a xiaomi TV stick - works fine.





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-17 Thread Apesbrain


chrisinparis wrote: 
> 
> Or, 9 years after the original post, is anyone carried on with
> this/doing this?

Back when they were plentiful and cheap Raspberry Pi took over for this
purpose.  Free piCorePlayer OS works perfectly.

No reason, though, that Android player can't still do the same.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2022-09-17 Thread chrisinparis


Time to resurrect this old thread (still seems most relevant).  Through
my ISP I have an AndroidTV box. I have acquired a Logitech Z625 which
has a SPDIF imput.  Originally for an old Samsung TV, but I've been
thinking that once connected to the TV box, I can install (I imagine)
bluegaspode's Squeezeplayer App and voila I have a player for the living
room.  Will try out in the next couple of days and report back.

Or, 9 years after the original post, is anyone carried on with
this/doing this?



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2014-09-15 Thread castalla

wortgefecht wrote: 
> Strange, I never had any battery or power issues so far. But low-quality
> it is, definitely. That's why it's located where it is ...

A cheap android phone with a replaceable battery is a better option!



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker (mothballed)
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker

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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2014-09-15 Thread wortgefecht

castalla wrote: 
> I thought it was a low-quality solutionn until the battery went flat and
> it wouldn't boot from AC power - binned it.

Strange, I never had any battery or power issues so far. But low-quality
it is, definitely. That's why it's located where it is ...



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2014-09-15 Thread castalla

wortgefecht wrote: 
> I had this little device lying around my place for some time now (picked
> it up at a daily deal site some time ago): Archos 35 Home Connect:
> http://store.archos.com/archos-home-connect-p-5027.htm?id=5027
> 
> 16386
> 
> It's basically a radio alarm clock running Android 2.2 and comes with
> TuneIn Radio. Sound quality is fair, considered the size of the device.
> I installed SqueezePlayer on it and it's now a part of my Squeezebox
> setup playing in our guest bathroom.

I thought it was a low-quality solutionn until the battery went flat and
it wouldn't boot from AC power - binned it.



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker (mothballed)
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker

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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2014-09-15 Thread wortgefecht

I had this little device lying around my place for some time now (picked
it up at a daily deal site some time ago): Archos 35 Home Connect:
http://store.archos.com/archos-home-connect-p-5027.htm?id=5027

16386

It's basically a radio alarm clock running Android 2.2 and comes with
TuneIn Radio. Sound quality is fair, considered the size of the device.
I installed SqueezePlayer on it and it's now a part of my Squeezebox
setup playing in our guest bathroom.


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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-10-10 Thread toby10

leafygreens wrote: 
> . Is there a version of LMS for Androids?  I only see Windows, Macs,
> and Linux.

No.  These are playback devices, not server computers.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-10-09 Thread leafygreens

bluegaspode wrote: 
> Based on erlands question I decided to start my own tests regarding
> Android TV sticks/devices <=100$, and ordered two of them for a
> comparison. I hope that others can share their experiences here as well,
> which is why I started a separate thread.
> 

Thanks very much for doing this review.  I'm also interested in using an
Android box/stick for Squeezelite.  Have you had much time to let it run
24/7?  I wonder how stable this is, and how it works for long term use.

Is there a version of LMS for Androids?  I only see Windows, Macs, and
Linux.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-10-03 Thread Apesbrain

15222

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008BFXOZE/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B008BFXOZE&linkCode=as2&tag=squid09a-20
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Adapter-Internet-phones-programs/dp/B0019SVUQK%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAIAA4MWUJXHBYFRNQ%26tag%3Dsquid1685143-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB0019SVUQK

I purchased this cheap, single-core, Android mini-PC from Amazon for
under $32 and already had a cheap USB DAC that appeared identical to the
one linked above.  I used the included HDMI cable to attach the mini-PC
to my HDTV and plugged in the power supply.  Within 30 seconds or so, my
TV was displaying the Android ICS desktop.  Upon plugging an HP wireless
mouse receiver into the full-size USB on the mini-PC a mouse pointer
appeared.  After joining the mini-PC to my wireless network and
installing Squeeze Player via Google Play, I was able to select the
mini-PC in LMS on my laptop and send music to it exactly the same as any
of my other SB players.  At this point, the sound was coming via HDMI
from my TV speakers.  This mini-PC has only one full-size USB port, so I
used another cable it shipped with to plug the DAC into its "USB OTG"
mini-port and I had music in my headphones.  It wasn't perfect as there
was the occasional crackle.  I pulled out the mouse receiver and plugged
the DAC into the full-size USB which had to be done via a short dongle
due to space constraints and the crackle went away. 

Via HDMI & USB:
- Plays FLAC and MP3; I didn't have other formats to test
- Plays 16/24 - 44/88/96 files; whether these are being resampled along
the way I don't know
- A short glitch every so often

If this were my only experience of Squeezebox I'd probably not be that
impressed, but for the extension of an existing SB system into another
room I don't see how it can be beat.  If you already have an A/V
receiver, you can plug the mini-PC directly to HDMI and skip the USB DAC
altogether.  Remember, you only need a display for initial set-up. 
After that, using the free "Startup Manager" app you can configure the
mini-PC to automatically start Squeeze Player upon boot.  Of course, you
can always leave the display connected and have album art visible.  Or
install an Android SB controller and navigate via your TV and a mouse.

The mini-PC does not have an Ethernet jack, but Ethernet/USB adapters
are available.  I can't say whether my wireless was the cause of the
occasional glitch I heard, but I suspect it was as the on-screen
wireless strength icon seemed to dip at the same time.  It wouldn’t
surprise me as living in a high-rise apartment building with another one
directly across the street is a wireless nightmare.

I don't need another SB device at this point, so I unplugged the DAC and
re-attached the mouse receiver.  I now use the mini-PC as a Netflix
streaming device on a secondary HDTV.  The wireless mouse provides
control from across the room.

If I were to do this again, I'd spend a bit more and purchase a dual- or
quad-core mini-PC for the extra CPU power.  Again, I don't know if CPU
or wireless issues were the cause of occasional drop-outs.  Some
reviewers have complained about the device over-heating, but my
experience is that it only gets warm during playback and at rest returns
to room temp; I leave it on all the time.


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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-28 Thread bluegaspode

Just added my second report. See above the second post.



Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all
your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere!
Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad =
SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)*
Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why
not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827)
Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my
'Headphone Switcher Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139)

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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-26 Thread bluegaspode

marlo wrote: 
> Could you please check if playback of hires-files is possible via hdmi
> and/or spdif?

hi Marlo, 

Sorry for the late answer.
Right now SqueezePlayer uses an AudioAPI that is compatible with pretty
old Android versions ("AudioTrack" /
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioTrack.html#AudioTrack(int,
int, int, int, int, int)
This supports only samplerate of 48kHz and 16Bit material.

I also checked about the multichannel possibilities now. Unfortunately
there is a parameter "channelConfig" which allows only the parameter
Mono + Stereo.

So unless I rewrite the whole audio engine of SqueezePlayer (which is
not planned right now I'm afraid) both request right now cannot be
fulfilled.
On newer Android version (starting 4.0) audio support was improved in
Android.



Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all
your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere!
Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad =
SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)*
Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why
not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827)
Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my
'Headphone Switcher Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139)

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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-25 Thread wewen

Try installing caustic 2. Then go into settings. There your audio
latency are measured.  Good tool to get a po9inter to your audiodevices
latency. For example the latency in my nexus 4 are 40ms.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-24 Thread Peter Galbavy

bluegaspode wrote: 
> I'm also not sure yet, if such a niché feature of a niché product would
> really make sense :)

niché^2 - sounds like a plan ;)



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread marlo

Could you please check if playback of hires-files is possible via hdmi
and/or spdif?





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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread bluegaspode

Peter Galbavy wrote: 
> 
> One thing that did spring to mind was that now with real HDMI and not
> just S/PDIF I should in theory be able to playback multichannel DVD
> Audio rips. No idea what the Squeeze platform (server, your player etc.)
> might do with that - any ideas?
The FLACs are transferred to the respective players, typically they only
use the first two main channels for playback.
I didn't check the Android API yet, if it would allow to pass 5 channels
down the HDMI route.
I'm also not sure yet, if such a niché feature of a niché product would
really make sense :)



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-23 Thread Peter Galbavy

Very nice. I may have to spend my money on your player app, which I've
been putting off as I have too many real SB boxes. I bought a Rikomagiv
RK809IV to play with but so far it's not great on video playback, but I
am going to be testing other ROMs and even Ubuntu soon.

One thing that did spring to mind was that now with real HDMI and not
just S/PDIF I should in theory be able to playback multichannel DVD
Audio rips. No idea what the Squeeze platform (server, your player etc.)
might do with that - any ideas? I assume the ability to decode
multichannel FLAC and then stream multichannel LPCM over the HDMI will
not be a native function - any guesses if this is feasible?

I have the luxury of two living rooms, one for music with a 2.0 (going
to test an old subwoofer to maybe go 2.1 soon) and the other the
TV/movie room with a nice 5.1 setup- currently an SB Touch in each. I
used to have some spare money once :)

Peter



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-22 Thread bluegaspode

You only need to connect via HDMI for setup. Then provided you
configured the AutomateIt App, SqueezePlayer will startup automatically
on boot also without HDMI connected.



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-22 Thread erland

Does these boxes work if you don't connect them to a TV and just have
the SPDIF connected to the amplifier ?
Or is the TV needed for them to be able to start and launch
SqueezePlayer at startup ?



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Re: [slim] Android TV Sticks/Boxes as Squeezebox Replacement

2013-09-22 Thread bluegaspode

<<< Reserved >>>



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