Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
ajc79;508619 Wrote: > So for now, i've set an automatic scan at four AM - hopefully no other > intensive disk processes will happen while audio is playing.. I have my server set to scan once a day at 4:00am, takes about an hour. I've got a couple automated tasks running around the same time but I've never had any problems with either the scan or the other jobs affecting each other. maggior;508626 Wrote: > I do my scans on-demand because I usually want to listen to music right > after it's been loaded on the server. When I'm doing that, generally > nobody else is using the squeezeboxes, so it isn't an issue. > I usually just browse by Music Folder if I want to listen to something right after loading it onto the server. -- pfink pfink's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
maggior;508626 Wrote: > On my system, it becomes very sluggish when performing a scan. I > haven't experienced droppouts in music, but I've experienced where it > will go OTL (out to lunch) when transitioning to the next track, > sometimes for upwards of 30 seconds. > > I do my scans on-demand because I usually want to listen to music right > after it's been loaded on the server. When I'm doing that, generally > nobody else is using the squeezeboxes, so it isn't an issue. > > So it looks like you found your problem. Now you can relax and enjoy > some music! > > Cheers! Hi there the main problem with computer performance is usually SLOW DISKS -- normally not a problem when streaming audio but when scanning MySQL is used as your DB is updated. This isn't an inherent problem with the server -- it's always a shame but most people buy rediculously overpowered CPU's (QUAD's for example) and load and loads of RAM when all you really need --especially for a server is just some DECENT FAST HDD's. For some apps you might need a QUAD processor --that's another issue - but for any sort of server you need FAST DISKS. Cheers jimbo -- jimbo45 jimbo45's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20276 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Also check for under settings \ player \ audio whether bitrate limiting is on. If it is on it may be taking time. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
ajc79;508619 Wrote: > > Anyone else had this problem? > On my system, it becomes very sluggish when performing a scan. I haven't experienced droppouts in music, but I've experienced where it will go OTL (out to lunch) when transitioning to the next track, sometimes for upwards of 30 seconds. I do my scans on-demand because I usually want to listen to music right after it's been loaded on the server. When I'm doing that, generally nobody else is using the squeezeboxes, so it isn't an issue. So it looks like you found your problem. Now you can relax and enjoy some music! Cheers! -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 30,015 songs, 2,448 albums, 451 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Nice find. I haven't had that issue - my server is a dual core Mac. However, I have noticed a not quite dissimilar issue when I'm using a lot of bandwidth at once, but I really have to force it. Say, watching Hulu, backing up my laptop to the server, backing up the server to an external disk, and running a torrent all at the same time. Naturally something has to give. -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Ok, we might have some progress here! It seems my little Windows Home Server can't handle a music scan and playing tunes at the same time. If i have music streaming then start a scan, the music stops straight away and the Squeezebox won't start playing again till it's finished or aborted. I've set the priority for scanner (low) & squeezebox server (high) in advanced settings, but this doesn't seem to make much difference.. So for now, i've set an automatic scan at four AM - hopefully no other intensive disk processes will happen while audio is playing.. Anyone else had this problem? Fingers crossed, will listen to some tunes tonight - hopefully with NO extra gaps in! -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
pablolie;508488 Wrote: > other thoughts - > > - powercycle the player. consider a factory reset for the player(s). > > - make sure you don't have any weird file format conversions going on > (advanced/file types) - you want all native formats -especially FLAC- to > be unconverted ie stay "native". > > - perhaps try running the SBS at higher priority settings (check > "performance" under settings/advanced) > > - are you synchronizing to more than one player at once? > > - checked your network device drivers? checked the interface stats for > errors? > > i can only imagine how unnerving this is. hang in there, it should > work. i have a humble little server, and use wireless, and yet can > reliably stream flacs to all players (except the Boom that sits on top > of the microwave and only gets 40% signal strength to start with :-), > and that only when i turn the microwave on). > > i agree with what someone else mentioned - sometimes you have to > restart SBS. i have an always on computer that acts as my SBS server, > but every 2 months or so something weird will happen where i'll have to > powercycle the player or restart the server. I'm only sync'ing one player. I haven't checked the NIC drivers, or tried up'ing the priority of the server process, i'll try those tonight too. Does anyone know how to view the buffer fullness in the latest versions of firmware/Squeezebox server? It's good to know that it should work with flac properly, thanks everyone for your suggestions - i'll report back tomorrow once i've tried them! -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
TiredLegs;508321 Wrote: > Using both Squeezebox 2 and 3 hardware, I'm running thousands of FLAC > files off a Buffalo LinkStation NAS with 7.3.3 Squeezebox server. This > server is underpowered for the purpose relative to most users' servers, > yet I don't experience the problem you're having. (I always use static > IP addresses, although I'd be surprised if that made a difference in the > problem you're having.) > > A few avenues of investigation for you come to mind: > > 1. The larger file size of FLAC vs. WMA might be bogging down your > network. Sounds like you've already looked into that, but could it be a > router or network switch issue? Does the problem happen at a specific > time in a track, such as always in the first few seconds, or can it > happen at any point in a track? > > 2. Something inside the FLAC files could be the culprit. Do you have > unusually large album artwork embedded in your FLACs? (All my FLACs have > 300x300 or 400x400 album art embedded.) Anything else embedded in the > FLAC tags that might gag the server? > > 3. Perhaps your Squeezebox server is set to transcode FLAC to some > other file format, choking the server? Check "File Types" page under > Advanced in server settings. I have FLAC file type set to Native for > FLAC streaming, and disabled FLAC to MP3 streaming and FLAC to WAV > streaming. #1 - It happens at any time. Testing again last night, sometimes it seems to restart and other times it'll just give up completely. #2 - I don't think so. The artwork is in the same directory as the flac files, and called folder.jpg. I don't believe there's anything extra embedded into the files. They were created with dbPoweramp's CD Ripper, which seems to work pretty well. #3 - That's a good point, i'll check that setting later - I think I missed that. Thanks! -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
other thoughts - - powercycle the player. consider a factory reset for the player(s). - make sure you don't have any weird file format conversions going on (advanced/file types) - you want all native formats -especially FLAC- to be unconverted ie stay "native". - perhaps try running the SBS at higher priority settings (check "performance" under settings/advanced) - are you synchronizing to more than one player at once? - checked your network device drivers? checked the interface stats for errors? i can only imagine how unnerving this is. hang in there, it should work. i have a humble little server, and use wireless, and yet can reliably stream flacs to all players (except the Boom that sits on top of the microwave and only gets 40% signal strength to start with :-), and that only when i turn the microwave on). i agree with what someone else mentioned - sometimes you have to restart SBS. i have an always on computer that acts as my SBS server, but every 2 months or so something weird will happen where i'll have to powercycle the player or restart the server. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
avta;508093 Wrote: > Just a thought but you might try 7.4.2 I could give it a go. I did read the change log and there wasn't anything specific for my problem, but if it's stable it's worth a punt I guess.. -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Using both Squeezebox 2 and 3 hardware, I'm running thousands of FLAC files off a Buffalo LinkStation NAS with 7.3.3 Squeezebox server. This server is underpowered for the purpose relative to most users' servers, yet I don't experience the problem you're having. (I always use static IP addresses, although I'd be surprised if that made a difference in the problem you're having.) A few avenues of investigation for you come to mind: 1. The larger file size of FLAC vs. WMA might be bogging down your network. Sounds like you've already looked into that, but could it be a router or network switch issue? Does the problem happen at a specific time in a track, such as always in the first few seconds, or can it happen at any point in a track? 2. Something inside the FLAC files could be the culprit. Do you have unusually large album artwork embedded in your FLACs? (All my FLACs have 300x300 or 400x400 album art embedded.) Anything else embedded in the FLAC tags that might gag the server? 3. Perhaps your Squeezebox server is set to transcode FLAC to some other file format, choking the server? (Check "File Types" page in server settings.) -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Does it appear that your entire library is being scanned or does it stop partially into it? Check the log and follow this post for more info: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74082 -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Just a thought but you might try 7.4.2 -- avta avta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
mvordeme;507899 Wrote: > I have occasionally been having similar problems which could usually > (but not always) be fixed by restarting the server. > > Edit: Oh, wait. Did you clean and re-scan the library? Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I did - once I deleted the WMAs and replaced them with FLACs, I did a clear & rescan. Could the scan job be causing the problem, as it's checking for new music periodically? ajc79 -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
I have occasionally been having similar problems which could usually (but not always) be fixed by restarting the server. -- mvordeme 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/mvordeme) | scaleo home server 2105 | squeezebox server 7.4.2 - r29756 | server power control 20100101.164543 | squeezebox boom & duet | rotel rsp-1066 | rotel rmb-100 | phonar p-5 mvordeme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] FLAC problems / Squeezebox 2
Hello all, I've recently re-ripped my music collection as FLAC instead of WMA. Since doing this, i'm having problems with streaming music to my Squeezebox 2. The tracks will occasionally stop playing, the track timer bar just pauses and the audio stops. Pressing play again starts the track playing from the start. It happens on various FLAC files, and it didn't occur before with WMA. So far i've: Done a network test on the Squeezebox and this is 100% for all tests except 5000kbps, which stays at about 90%. Wifi signal is 90%, ping times under 1ms. I also connected the Squeezebox via cat5 rather than Wifi - the problem still occurs Re-applied firmware 130 to the Squeezebox - the problem still occurs Checked the integrity of the FLAC files using 'flac -t' at the command line (they were OK) The server running Squeezebox Server (Version: 7.4.1) is a small Windows Home Server, which doesn't have any obvious problems in Performance Monitor and otherwise functions OK. It's not running any other disk-intensive processes and has just been defragged. I've read a couple of things about checking the amount of buffer the squeezebox has, but I couldn't find these options - perhaps they were only available in earlier versions of the software? The only thing I have left to try is setting a static IP rather than DHCP, but i'd be surprised if this fixes it. Anyone got any other ideas? Thanks in advance.. ajc79 -- ajc79 ajc79's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74231 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
