Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
>It's not doing that for me. When it says "Playing Random Songs" and I >hit play it just jumps back into the currently playing list. That's >what's annoying me. I have to do the the Now Playing + ADD thing to >clear the list then go back. > I don't know why that would be. What version of Slimserver are you using? Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
>Besides this your description matches how it works in my own setup. Okay, I've added some documentation in the wiki. Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
Phil Meyer;192877 Wrote: > Pressing the power button will retain the playlist and random play mode, > so resuming playback would carry off where you left it. Powering off > the squeezebox or slimserver would lose the random play mode (although > the current playlist will be retained). > Powering off the slimserver will lose the random play mode, but powering off the squeezebox shouldn't. At least that's the case in my own setup. Besides this your description matches how it works in my own setup. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
Phil Meyer;192877 Wrote: > > > If you go back to Random Mix menu, you should see that it now says > "Playing Random Songs" instead of the "Random Songs Mix" option. If > you press play again, the current random playlist will be cleared and a > new selection of random songs will be selected and played. > > It's not doing that for me. When it says "Playing Random Songs" and I hit play it just jumps back into the currently playing list. That's what's annoying me. I have to do the the Now Playing + ADD thing to clear the list then go back. Thanks for the detailed explaination. Almost there. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
The "old-school" method of playing random music is/was to press the shuffle button to select shuffle song or shuffle album. You then selected to play something (such as all music, all music in a genre, or a playlist). That would queue up all of the selected music, but randomised (either keeping all songs on an album together, or totally random). This had a performance hit for large music databases. Random Play is the "new-school" method. You don't need to mess about with the shuffle option. You select to play random songs, and it adds a bunch of songs. It will keep a certain amount of played songs in history, and you can see a bunch of future songs that have been selected for random play. The exact amount of songs selected and history are configurable (Web UI). This is what happens for me in version 6.5.2: If you press play on Plugins -> Random Mix -> Random Song Mix, that will clear any current playlist, and play the new selection of random songs (automatically adding new songs and removing old songs to manage the length of the playlist). If you go back to Random Mix menu, you should see that it now says "Playing Random Songs" instead of the "Random Songs Mix" option. If you press play again, the current random playlist will be cleared and a new selection of random songs will be selected and played. However, you can still press the "Add" button to add any other music to the end of the current playlist. So for example, you may be playing 1 of 11 random songs, and add an album to the end of the playlist. This would add items numbered for example 12..20. After that, random songs would start to be inserted onto the end again. In the Plugins -> Random Mix menu, you could press Add on "Random Album Mix", and this would start to add random albums to the end of the current playlist. So, at any time, "Play" will create a new current playlist, and "Add" will add to the current playlist. Pressing the power button will retain the playlist and random play mode, so resuming playback would carry off where you left it. Powering off the squeezebox or slimserver would lose the random play mode (although the current playlist will be retained). I think that's a complete braindump of everything I know about the Random Mix functionality. It seems perfectly sensible and intuitive to me - much better than many random play options in other software/hardware. If someone can confirm everything I've written here, and it doesn't already exist in the wiki, I'll add it. However, I don't often use the slimserver built-in random mix function, as I use the more comprehensive options found in Erland's third-party plugins (such as "dynamic playlists"), which work in a similar way, but can be configured to select more-specific music playlists, eg. "music not played recently". Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
Phil Meyer;192618 Wrote: > >How do I clear the list with the remote. > To clear the Now Playing list, press the Add button when the screen is > showing the "Now Playing ->" menu option. Thanks Phil !!! I think understand now. This interface is goofy. Where may I ask is that documented? Ok, I think I understand now. Starting from empty. If I play "Random Songs" it adds a batch and starts playing. If I let them play it will add a batch when it gets to the end. Unless I hit RIGHT in the "Press RIGHT to stop adding songs". Then it loops on this list. I think if I shut it off it it may automatically go into the stop adding songs. Not sure. But what I was doing was going back to random song mix when I turn it on and it was just playing the same old list over and over. I unless I rebooted server or chose a different way to play songs. So there no quick way to just say play a new random list list (must manually clear out old list first). But at least I think I understand now. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
>How do I clear the list with the remote. To clear the Now Playing list, press the Add button when the screen is showing the "Now Playing ->" menu option. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
hi mswlogo, FYI, my "random songs" doesn't work as you describe. From the remote and the web interface each time I press "random songs" a new list is generated, with old ones removed. As each song plays another gets added to the list. The only unusal "feature" I notice, is when you stop slimserver when you have a random song list active, the next time you start slimserver is only cycles through the list rather an appending new songs. I just hit "random songs" again. You might want to program one of the remote buttons to select "random songs". regards -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts
I posted a while back about biases in random playback and I was point to a bug that was recently fixed. I tried the fix and it's still funky. It may simply be user error or another not so intuitive feature. I think I know what's going on. I boot everthing up clean. I hit random song and it adds a batch of songs. It will loop through these songs. If I hit random song again it ADDs another group and loops through both lists. If I hit random song again it adds another chunk loops through all 3 chunks. How do I clear the list with the remote. If I go manually choose an album I think it clears the list and puts the album. And if I go back to random song I think I it will clear the album and put in a chunk of random songs again. I use random all the time and it never clears out old songs unless I manually clear them using web interface. Should it clear the list each time I hit "shuffle random song"? Can I clear the list with the remote? How is it supposed to work? -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss