Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-10 Thread TomAmes


d6jg wrote: 
> He has also missed off 2 other essential plugins - MAI and RP.

I was oblivious to these two plugins. I installed MAI a couple of days,
and it is absolutely awesome! Thanks to Michael for developing it, and
thank you for mentioning it here!

Perhaps I will give RP a try--and spend some time perusing the list of
plugins.



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-08 Thread pablolie


I just built a system for a friend based on a PI and LMS SW, with the
Pinguin app as the UI on an iPad. Rave reviews. 

She's now in the process of ripping her CD collection (about 15 years
late, IMO :-D) and is using Tidal (gasp, I think I am falling a little!
:-D).

She's a super gifted musician, and after she listened to my system (and
saw me easily interact with it via a GUI) she asked me to set hers up.
And of course the Squeezebox system is up for it. 5th person I have
converted in the last 3 years (it's not my mission in life, I only do it
if someone asks for help (and he's pretty!).



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Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem
Element Fire
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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-07 Thread left channel


Thanks Michael, Jim, and Danny for writing to him! I notice he's updated
to Material himself ("SqueezeLiteDARKO"). Too bad the original article
is not updated, but at least the letters page is offered as "Next
article / Letters to the editor: Squeezebox, Dutch & Dutch & more". I
ought to write him about an error he made on another product review.



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-07 Thread d6jg

pputzer wrote: 
> He has added a "Letters to the editor" article today:
> https://darko.audio/2019/06/letters-to-the-editor-squeezebox-dutch-dutch-more/

2 Letters. 
Michael’s and mine about Material (although he’s said I am Jim D when I
am actually Jim G) 
I do agree that for the most part it’s a very positive review. Kudos to
Michael (as always).



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-07 Thread firedog


Thanks



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-07 Thread pputzer


He has added a "Letters to the Editor" article today:
https://darko.audio/2019/06/letters-to-the-editor-squeezebox-dutch-dutch-more/



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg

GRC wrote: 
> OK I’ll take a look thanks.  I understand skins and plugins.
> 
> Presumably Material is purely cosmetic and adds no functionality. Just
> asking . . . no flames please.

Yes and No
It’s cosmetic but adds better integration with  MAI and is usable with
any mobile or tablet which the default skin isn’t



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread GRC

OK I’ll take a look thanks.  I understand skins and plugins.

Presumably Material is purely cosmetic and adds no functionality. Just
asking . . . no flames please.



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread kidstypike


GRC wrote: 
> Hands up - nope.  Hadn't even heard of it until this thread and still
> know nothing about it.  Can you point me somewhere useful?
> 
> Thanks.

It's a plugin:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109624-Announce-Material-Skin



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*Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg


Go to Settings / Plugins and install Materiel
The go to
http://lmsipadress:9000/Material



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread GRC


d6jg wrote: 
> I agree with all of that but have you tried the Material skin plugin?

Hands up - nope.  Hadn't even heard of it until this thread and still
know nothing about it.  Can you point me somewhere useful?

Thanks.



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread kidstypike


Light & Dark skins.

27509

27510


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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg

GRC wrote: 
> To be fair, I think it's only the web UI that the article is
> criticising, not the various IOS / Android apps, several of which he
> calls out as good.  And he rates some combinations better than Roon
> which can't be bad.
> 
> Personally, I think the web UI is fine - easy to use and intuitive (well
> at least for an old fart like me). I have the left pane maximised with
> large artwork and a sort order of artist - year - album (where
> appropriate).  I have no artwork showing in the right pane - just the
> play list.  Just click on a track in either pane for all the extra info
> you might need.  There's extra skins if you're obsessive about
> appearance.  What's not to like?  
> 
> The only real thing I'd like (mentioned in an earlier thread started by
> me) is the ability to include "pointers" to non-local music (e.g.
> Spotify or Tidal albums) in the library so that LMS effectively
> integrates local music and streaming services like Roon.  But Michael
> Herger has already said that this would be a significant chunk of work
> which, frankly, is unlikely to happen.  And I haven't found a work
> around yet apart from putting the Spotty pointer in a Favorites folder
> in LMS as a quick way of reminding me about the albums and accessing
> them.
> 
> The rest of Darko's article is relatively complementary, even though I
> don't know if a souped-up Raspberry Pi sounds significantly better into
> a decent DAC than the stock SBT digital out.  Darko says "An audio HAT –
> like those offered by ALLO, HifiBerry, JustBoom – will see our
> Pi-Squeeze comfortably surpass the Squeezebox Touch on sound quality
> (with analogue OR digital)."   Let me stress - I haven't heard a Pi+HAT
> so have no evidence either way.
> 
> Anyway, I think it's nice to see good old SBT and LMS getting some new
> and relatively favourable press here in 2019.
> 
> Cheers

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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread GRC

To be fair, I think it's only the web UI that the article is
criticising, not the various IOS / Android apps, several of which he
calls out as good.  And he rates some combinations better than Roon
which can't be bad.

Personally, I think the web UI is fine - easy to use and intuitive (well
at least for an old fart like me). I have the left pane maximised with
large artwork and a sort order of artist - year - album (where
appropriate).  I have no artwork showing in the right pane - just the
play list.  Just click on a track in either pane for all the extra info
you might need.  There's extra skins if you're obsessive about
appearance.  What's not to like?  

The only real thing I'd like (mentioned in an earlier thread started by
me) is the ability to include "pointers" to non-local music (e.g.
Spotify or Tidal albums) in the library so that LMS effectively
integrates local music and streaming services like Roon.  But Michael
Herger has already said that this would be a significant chunk of work
which, frankly, is unlikely to happen.  And I haven't found a work
around yet apart from putting the Spotty pointer in a Favorites folder
in LMS as a quick way of reminding me about the albums and accessing
them.

The rest of Darko's article is relatively complementary, even though I
don't know if a souped-up Raspberry Pi sounds significantly better into
a decent DAC than the stock SBT digital out.  Darko says "An audio HAT –
like those offered by ALLO, HifiBerry, JustBoom – will see our
Pi-Squeeze comfortably surpass the Squeezebox Touch on sound quality
(with analogue OR digital)."   Let me stress - I haven't heard a Pi+HAT
so have no evidence either way.

Anyway, I think it's nice to see good old SBT and LMS getting some new
and relatively favourable press here in 2019.

Cheers



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Study = SBT -> NAD D3020 -> Epos K1
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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread Man in a van


d6jg wrote: 
> .
> 
> Both plugins are by Michael Herger who is defacto the head of LMS.

He's the one that "sends the boys round"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI-uql-vv3c

ronnie :cool:



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg

cfuttrup wrote: 
> I don't know about MAI and RP, so I'm curious ... what are these
> plug-ins about?
> 
> Cheers,
> Claus

MAI is Music & Artist Information - adds Lyrics, Artist Biography, Album
Review etc and Material really makes great use of it

RP is Radio Paradise. A US FLAC Radio Station that has no ads only an
occasional voice announcement. It’s Rock based but is very esoteric and
includes Jazz and Classical. It’s curated by a human (Bill) not an auto
DJ. Highly recommended.

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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread cfuttrup


d6jg wrote: 
> He has also missed off 2 other essential plugins - MAI and RP.

I don't know about MAI and RP, so I'm curious ... what are these
plug-ins about?

Cheers,
Claus



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg


left channel wrote: 
> Indeed. Too bad he doesn't allow public reader comments. The information
> above his contact form is not encouraging; it seems likely he will never
> go back in and fix an article.

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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread left channel


d6jg wrote: 
> Someone should point him at Material

Indeed. Too bad he doesn't seem to allow reader comments. The
information above his contact form is not encouraging; it seems likely
he will never go back in and fix an article.



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg


d6jg wrote: 
> Someone should point him at Material

In fact I just have



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Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread d6jg

GRC wrote: 
> Anyone else seen this?
> 
> https://darko.audio/2019/06/freshly-squeezed-streaming/ 
> 
> I'm a fan of Darko's website but I think he's a little harsh in this
> article, particularly about the UI.  Quote "LMS’ web interface,
> accessible from ANY device running a web browser, has a face only a
> mother could love."  The web-UI photo is not a good example IMHO.
> 
> Anyway, sounds like a 7/10 pass for us "budget-conscious audiophiles"!

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[slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019

2019-06-06 Thread GRC

Anyone else seen this?

https://darko.audio/2019/06/freshly-squeezed-streaming/ 

I'm a fan of Darko's website but I think he's a little harsh in this
article, particularly about the UI.  Quote "LMS’ web interface,
accessible from ANY device running a web browser, has a face only a
mother could love."  The web-UI photo is not a good example IMHO.

Anyway, sounds like a 7/10 pass for us "budget-conscious audiophiles"!



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Server = iMac -> Bootcamp ->  W10 (dBpoweramp ripping / MediaMonkey
management)
Router = Huawei B310 LTE 4G + repeaters
Lounge = SBT -> Devialet D200 -> Dynaudio Contour 1.8 MkII
Covered terrace = SBT -> AudioEngine A5+
Study = SBT -> NAD D3020 -> Epos K1
Kitchen + bedroom = SB Radio
Garage = SB2 -> Rotel RA820BX2 -> MA252
Storage = SB Boom + SB3 + SlimP3 
iOS control = iPeng / SqueezePad; Android = SqueezeCommander;

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