Re: [slim] Letter of concern: Too many different players..?

2009-10-20 Thread RonHatl

Let me just say that I consider new firmware as an integral part of a
Squeezebox Server software release (as they almost always go hand in
hand). So my concern is just as much related to firmware releases.

That said; I'm not THAT concerned! I'm just stating a point that I
think should be considered by the Logitech Squeezebox leaders. I'm NOT
saying that any of the alternatives above should be considered. Maybe
JUST steps to ensure (keep/develop) the right STAFF (quantity, quality
AND enthusiasm) should be considered?

All I wanted with this post was to point out a matter that I think
deserves a little bit of attention from the Logitech Squeezebox leaders.
I am very sure (am I?) that the matter is in good hands :-).


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Re: [slim] Letter of concern: Too many different players..?

2009-10-20 Thread AndreE

Diversity is always good as long as there is an abstraction layer
And I hope it is in place, 
otherwise some of older products will need to go very soon


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Re: [slim] Letter of concern: Too many different players..?

2009-10-16 Thread aubuti

RonHatl;471977 Wrote: 
 Don't get me wrong; I think it's great that we now have the Squeezebox
 Radio and Touch to play with or to replace our old but yet beloved
 SBs..
 
 But will the number of players affect the average quality on released
 versions of the Squeezebox Server software? I mean; many players equals
 many if statements to be handled by the software development team as
 the players' hardware are different.. I wonder; Is the 'Logitech
 Squeezebox' software development team staffed and managed accordingly?
 
 PS. And this is important: So far I am VERY IMPRESSED by the quality of
 both the hardware and software products from Slimdevices and now
 'Logitech Squeezebox'. I think the success is very much related to the
 strong enthusiasm of the freaks who spend a lot of free time
 developing and roaming these forums! So THANK YOU ALL! You know; I just
 LOVE these products!!
 
 RonHatl
If you're concerned about the proliferation of players and the
complexity of the software (and implicitly, support for legacy players),
consider a couple of the alternatives:

*1. Don't introduce new products:* this is commercial suicide,
especially considering Moore's Law. As good as the existing products
are, they need new products not only for the marketing buzz they create,
but also to take advantage of adding greater capabilities at the same or
lower price point.

*2. Introduce new products, and stop supporting old hardware:* This is
what a lot of companies do, and something that Slim Devices never did
and Logitech has done as little as possible (eg, TinySC on the SB Touch
won't support SliMP3 or SB1 players). What existing SB user is going to
want to add a new device if it can't sync or interoperate with existing
gear? Probably not many, and the alternative of replacing everything is
usually very unattractive.

As pski pointed out, much of the new code -- although far from all --
goes into the player firmware, not the server software. And in some
cases, the new products help make the old products better, with the most
obvious case in point being the SB Controller. It was the first device
based on SqueezeOS, and now the Radio and Touch are the 2nd and 3rd. A
lot of the development effort on the Radio and Touch is showing payoffs
on the SBC.


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Re: [slim] Letter of concern: Too many different players..?

2009-10-15 Thread pski

RonHatl;471977 Wrote: 
 Don't get me wrong; I think it's great that we now have the Squeezebox
 Radio and Touch to play with or to replace our old but yet beloved
 SBs..
 
 But will the number of players affect the average quality on released
 versions of the Squeezebox Server software? I mean; many players equals
 many if statements to be handled by the software development team as
 the players' hardware are different.. I wonder; Is the 'Logitech
 Squeezebox' software development team staffed and managed accordingly?
 
 PS. And this is important: So far I am VERY IMPRESSED by the quality of
 both the hardware and software products from Slimdevices and now
 'Logitech Squeezebox'. I think the success is very much related to the
 strong enthusiasm of the freaks who spend a lot of free time
 developing and roaming these forums! So THANK YOU ALL! You know; I just
 LOVE these products!!
 
 RonHatl

Given that most player interface options are available in the webGUI,
I would think that differences would be handled by the devices
themselves rather than the server software. I could be wrong.

P


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[slim] Letter of concern: Too many different players..?

2009-10-13 Thread RonHatl

Don't get me wrong; I think it's great that we now have the Squeezebox
Radio and Touch to play with or to replace our old but yet beloved
SBs..

But will the number of players affect the average quality on released
versions of the Squeezebox Server software? I mean; many players equals
many if statements to be handled by the software development team as
the players' hardware are different.. I wonder; Is the 'Logitech
Squeezebox' software development team staffed and managed accordingly?

PS. And this is important: So far I am VERY IMPRESSED by the quality of
both the hardware and software products from Slimdevices and now
'Logitech Squeezebox'. I think the success is very much related to the
strong enthusiasm of the freaks who spend a lot of free time
developing and roaming these forums! So THANK YOU ALL! You know; I just
LOVE these products!!

RonHatl


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