Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2011-01-09 Thread Nick_G

funkstar;599189 Wrote: 
 Nick,
 
 Richer Sounds also stock the Sonos, any chance they were telling you
 the range is dead just to sell you a Sonos system?
 
 Me cynical? only a little ;)

They certainly didn't mention the Sonos whilst I was there, but then
I'd explained that I wanted to listen to the high quality BBC streams
on my hi-fi which the Sonos wouldn't be able to access.

If you go on Richer Sounds' website and look up the Squeezebox Touch it
does say Last Few To Clear So Hurry. Stock availability shows 13
stores with stock in: 3 stores have 2 units, the rest have only 1.

So maybe something is going on?


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2011-01-09 Thread andynormancx

Nick_G;601236 Wrote: 
 
 If you go on Richer Sounds' website and look up the Squeezebox Touch it
 does say Last Few To Clear So Hurry. Stock availability shows 13
 stores with stock in: 3 stores have 2 units, the rest have only 1.
 
 So maybe something is going on?
Probably not. Richer Sounds are sort of a special case, they specialise
in buying up stock cheaply and selling it until they run out.

It is probably just that they got a good price on a batch of Touches
and that the promotional activity is just to make sure they get rid of
their remaining stock.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2011-01-02 Thread funkstar

Nick,

Richer Sounds also stock the Sonos, any chance they were telling you
the range is dead just to sell you a Sonos system?

Me cynical? only a little ;)


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2011-01-02 Thread pski

funkstar;599189 Wrote: 
 Nick,
 
 Richer Sounds also stock the Sonos, any chance they were telling you
 the range is dead just to sell you a Sonos system?
 
 Me cynical? only a little ;)

Why does Logitech not have a commercial that indicates:

All your music anywhere you go.. We can do that.


All it would take is combo players/controllers for iPhone, Android, and
Symbian.

P

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[slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread Nick_G

I was in Richer Sounds Exeter branch a little earlier today enquiring
about the availability of the Squeezebox Touch, and was told that it
was an end-of-line product and that they couldn't get any more in. In
fact the man I spoke to seemed to think that most of the Squeezebox
range was in a similar position.

Is this true? Are Logitech bringing out updated products soon? It seems
a bit unlikely to me, although I've not been able to find any shop in
Exeter that stock the Touch.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread aubuti

Logitech doesn't talk about forthcoming products, and they don't seem to
talk much about the future of their products. But I think the salesman
you spoke to was probably misinformed, or making stuff up. The Radio
and Touch appear to be selling pretty well, so it would be silly to
pull the plug on them now. And Logitech just went through the hassle of
recertifying the Duet Receiver after they had to change one of the
internal components following the demise of one of their suppliers. I
don't think they would have done the recertification or a new
production run if they were planning to end the line soon.

Looking over the longer term, however, it's easy for me to imagine
Logitech not introducing anything new in the SB line. I think the Revue
is more indicative of where their attention will be for the next few
years. But this is all pure speculation on my part.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread FredFredrickson

Sometimes communication from the top can be good. They should revise
that policy.

I can't imagine why logitech bought slim devices- unless it was to take
them out of the running..


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread Nick_G

Thanks for the info guys. I did think it somewhat odd that these
products were end-of-line. I did wonder if there may be a replacement
for the Transporter though as it doesn't seem to get mentioned on
Logitech's website, and it's a huge jump in price from the Touch. I'm
guessingt that Logitech aren't really interested in competing with the
likes of Naim, Linn, Meridian etc in the serious audiophile stakes. 

The Touch looks like a great piece of kit, and quite possibly the most
versatile internet radio device you can get.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread Mnyb

Nick_G;598705 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the info guys. I did think it somewhat odd that these
 products were end-of-line. I did wonder if there may be a replacement
 for the Transporter though as it doesn't seem to get mentioned on
 Logitech's website, and it's a huge jump in price from the Touch. I'm
 guessingt that Logitech aren't really interested in competing with the
 likes of Naim, Linn, Meridian etc in the serious audiophile stakes. 
 
 The Touch looks like a great piece of kit, and quite possibly the most
 versatile internet radio device you can get.

You now have the transporter SE :-) but Touch is so new whey not wait
and let it mature a bit.

They do compete with the others with the Transporter SE and as a
digital transport with Touch, it's good enough digital transport for
anything.

But they make real world products no cargo cult science involved .
It's hard to get it anymore expensive than the TP without resorting to
some vodoo logic to justify price and design of the piece.

(Yes there is a Meridian processors in my sig , but thoose peices had a
unique feature set 6 years ago, no juju or quantumpurifiers in those.
Just to damn expensive thats their only fault, 1/3 of the price is what
I would want to pay for them.)


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread Nick_G

I didn't realise there was an 'SE' Transporter. What's the difference
between that and the old one?

I thought I read on here that the Transporter architecture is looking
dated compared to the Touch. Can you play the new BBC HD Radio 3 stream
on the Transporter?

I also think it would make sense for Logitech to release a streamer
that bridges the huge gap in price between the Touch and Transporter,
maybe in the £5-600 price range. It could still have the nice touch
screen but be more solidly built and look more like a hi-fi component.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread amcluesent

Can you play the new BBC HD Radio 3 stream on the Transporter?

Yes. It's very good ;)

I can't imagine why logitech bought slim devices

I think it must have been the personal initiative of a music-loving
'VP', who has since been sacked.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread Mnyb

Nick_G;598714 Wrote: 
 I didn't realise there was an 'SE' Transporter. What's the difference
 between that and the old one?
 
 I thought I read on here that the Transporter architecture is looking
 dated compared to the Touch. Can you play the new BBC HD Radio 3 stream
 on the Transporter?
 
 I also think it would make sense for Logitech to release a streamer
 that bridges the huge gap in price between the Touch and Transporter,
 maybe in the £5-600 price range. It could still have the nice touch
 screen but be more solidly built and look more like a hi-fi component.

transporter SE is the same transporter minus that funky transnav wheel
and actually a lover price :) 1500$ at logitech US that measn that it's
eventually going to get cheaper elsewhere as logitech tends to be price
leading on thier own products.

CPU wise the architechture is a bit dated as no new DRM streamings
shemes can fit in the firmware and no more native formats than it
already has.
The Touch can do AAC natively while a TP needs a server to transcode ,
so no AAC radio without a helping hand from a local server.

But the typical TP user has a server that can transcode anything and
has a huge collection of their own files not needing the bleeding edge
in streaming radio services. Note that it does support all stuff
available at mysqueezebox.com now but who knows in 2 years .

It also has digital inputs so if the streaming parts get obsolete you
still got a nice DAC ,. It also has wordclock input to be clock slaved
to a DAC if used as a transport thast as god as it gets.

Actually the law of diminishing returns kicks in hard at prices above
where the Touch is ? A beefed up Touch at 2*price will it really be
that much better ?
If you also made a nice hifi like box that would eat most of the cost
.
Actually that nice shiny custom made box much super hifi comes in cost
more than the  manufacturer care to admit , bill of manufacturing can
be more than the insides if whe are talking preamps and DAC's and CDP's
Power amps sports a large transformer cast cooling fins that add costs.


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Re: [slim] Logitech revamping their range?

2010-12-31 Thread rbz5416

Richer Sounds employee in talking  shocker!


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