Re: [slim] New products please!
>How about something that just plain works, without the neverending >nightly updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer >and I have reached the point where I think a multi-CD player would >work much better. Nightlies aren't for regular use. If they address a problem you actually have, try one. Otherwise, ignore them. Me, I'm still running 6.5.2 on my Infant NAS. No problems on 3 wired and 1 wireless Squeezeboxes (mixed 2s and a 3). Uptime has been since our last power outage, and they get near daily use from me, my wife, and kids. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Solvason-Pastuch;243043 Wrote: > How about something that just plain works, without the neverending > nightly updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I > have reached the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much > better. The nightlies are *pre-release* software. Neverending updates of the pre-release version is a *good* thing -- that's how you get the bugs out. No one is forcing you to use the nightlies. If you don't want to be a beta tester -- which is exactly what you are choosing to do when using the nightly versions -- then use 6.5.4 (or earlier) and stick with it. Sheesh. Multi-CD players are admittedly easier. Personally I really enjoy the benefits of streaming to multiple SBs around the house (whole house audio on the cheap), and not waiting for the CDP hardware to grind away every time you change tracks on a playlist that spans many CDs. YMMV. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Solvason-Pastuch;243043 Wrote: > How about something that just plain works, without the neverending > nightly > updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I have > reached > the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much better. > QUOTE] > > I'm very happy with my SB. Haven't updated in a year and all is well. > No way I'm going back to multi-CD - ever! -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Solvason-Pastuch;243043 Wrote: > How about something that just plain works, without the neverending > nightly > updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I have > reached > the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much better. > If you stopped the ranting for once and described the actual problem it might even get fixed at some point. But looking at your previous posts I doubt we will ever get some useful information from you. But prove me wrong if you like! -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
I'm no great updater and I've lived happily for months/years with outdated 4.x and 5.x versions. Regards, Peter Solvason-Pastuch wrote: How about something that just plain works, without the neverending nightly updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I have reached the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much better. - Original Message - From: "SoftPhill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: [slim] New products please! Hi there, this is my first post but i have been a squeezebox owner for a number of months now (have a couple). I think the system is great and the forums invaluable but i have found myself asking this question for quite a bit: When will we see something new? I am really excited to expand my system into other rooms but keep comvincing myself to hold on a bit longer with rumours surrounding the Jive remote (when is that supposed to be released?) and squeezeboombox. Is there any news out there about how long i will have to wait to see something come out of the Logitech/slimdevices team? Also, when is slimserver 7 going to be "officially" released? Lots of questions! Phill -- SoftPhill SoftPhill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Solvason-Pastuch;243043 Wrote: > How about something that just plain works, without the neverending > nightly > updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I have > reached > the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much better. > What 'doesn't plain work' in the current version of Slimserver (6.5.1)? There's no compulsion to download nightlies, unless you want the additional features provided (for free). I am downloading nightlies to facilitate Jive beta testing, but prior to that, I've been using Slimserver since I bought my first SB1 and I haven't encountered any need for 'neverending updates and techie tweaking'. I've tended just to use the latest official release of SS. My experience is that once set up, it does just plain work. YMMV. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
How about something that just plain works, without the neverending nightly updates and techie tweaking. I AM an electrical engineer and I have reached the point where I think a multi-CD player would work much better. - Original Message - From: "SoftPhill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: [slim] New products please! > > Hi there, this is my first post but i have been a squeezebox owner for a > number of months now (have a couple). I think the system is great and > the forums invaluable but i have found myself asking this question for > quite a bit: > > When will we see something new? > I am really excited to expand my system into other rooms but keep > comvincing myself to hold on a bit longer with rumours surrounding the > Jive remote (when is that supposed to be released?) and > squeezeboombox. > Is there any news out there about how long i will have to wait to see > something come out of the Logitech/slimdevices team? > > Also, when is slimserver 7 going to be "officially" released? > Lots of questions! > Phill > > > -- > SoftPhill > > SoftPhill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13979 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
SoftPhill;242700 Wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I take your point on product release dates, > probably not that sensible but it does feel like it's been a while > since the merge and i would have expected something by now. As a beta testeer for the Jive handset, my impression is that it's "all hands on deck" at Slim Devices. They are working at a furious rate to get this puppy sorted. But we're talking about a seriously complex development. SoftPhill;242700 Wrote: > If they were gunning for some kind of Christmas offering it would have > been prudent to hype it up a bit during peoples Christmas shopping > window. That has not materialised as yet so my assumption now is that > if it is quiet at the beginning of Dec it will be quiet till a few > months into next year. My guess is that perhaps when the Jive development started, they might have hoped to have it ready by Christmas. But it's now clear that isn't going to happen. In hindsight they've done the right thing - pre-announcing and then missing the Xmas deadline would have been suicide. BTW, I'll just say that the Jive handset is a wonderful little device. When it is finally sorted it's going to be worth the wait. -- cliveb Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Thanks for the replies. I take your point on product release dates, probably not that sensible but it does feel like it's been a while since the merge and i would have expected something by now. If they were gunning for some kind of Christmas offering it would have been prudent to hype it up a bit during peoples Christmas shopping window. That has not materialised as yet so my assumption now is that if it is quiet at the beginning of Dec it will be quiet till a few months into next year. All complete speculation of course Would love to be proved wrong though. -- SoftPhill SoftPhill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Michael Herger;242501 Wrote: > > It happens every day, and by many very successful companies. > > Particularly in the tech and consumer electronics industries. > > Oh, I remember that company in Redmond announcing Windows 4.0 about > five > years before it was released as version 95... > > Michael As Pat mentioned, pre-announcing is usually to stall other company's sales. It's usually for strategic markets - not something as fragmented as streaming audio products. Pre-announcing for Slimdevices would simply slow sales, which doesn't benefit them at all...unless it's a completely new category of product, perhaps. I also found the comment on Cisco dropping from favor funny...it was actually a great earnings announcement and growth projections were reasonable. I'd think leading internet infrastructure sales is a decent place to be as HD video is moving toward IP delivery. Perhaps a time to buy... Back on topic - I look forward to both SC7 and a better remote solution as well. -- thomsens thomsens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
> It happens every day, and by many very successful companies. > Particularly in the tech and consumer electronics industries. Oh, I remember that company in Redmond announcing Windows 4.0 about five years before it was released as version 95... Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
JJZolx wrote: > It happens every day, and by many very successful companies. > Particularly in the tech and consumer electronics industries. You've > never seen Cisco announce an new line of routers six months before > they're physically available? Never seen speakers or audio components > at consumer electronics shows well before they're available in audio > dealer showrooms? Deadlines often aren't nearly as important as > keeping interest in a company's products. Given Cisco's recent financial announcements, they may fall out of my "smart company" list. I'll admit that many large companies pre-announce for strategic and tactical purposes. Sometimes to spread FUD, sometimes to tell their loyal customers not to jump to Brand X now, because in six months they will have something just as good. I haven't followed Logitech enough to know whether they do or do not. Intel annoucing faster, better, cooler chips coming RSN is not the same as normal product vendors pre-announcing. The Osbourne effect is real, sales are lost when customers wait for the really great next thing rather than buying what is on the shelf today. I will not be holding my breath for any pre-announcements from Sean and Dean -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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2002 - Windows announce that "Longhorn" aka Vista will be ready in 2005. Still isn't finished. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
Pat Farrell;242482 Wrote: > SoftPhill wrote: > > When will we see something new? > > Ever since Osborne computers shot themselves in the foot with early > annoucements, smart firms do not mention what is coming. It happens every day, and by many very successful companies. Particularly in the tech and consumer electronics industries. You've never seen Cisco announce an new line of routers six months before they're physically available? Never seen speakers or audio components at consumer electronics shows well before they're available in audio dealer showrooms? Deadlines often aren't nearly as important as keeping interest in a company's products. Slim Devices past reluctance to pre-announce products isn't hard to understand when they're putting out about one device a year. A small company can indeed shoot itself in the foot. But I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that change now that they're strapped with producing consumer products for a behemoth like Logitech. It's essential that they have all the mechanisms in place where a company can know that they will be able to get X, Y or Z out the door by a certain date. I suspect that they're nowhere near that point yet, but as a new division in a company that does it routinely, you can be certain it's a goal. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New products please!
SoftPhill wrote: > When will we see something new? Ever since Osborne computers shot themselves in the foot with early annoucements, smart firms do not mention what is coming. SlimDevices and LogiTech never comment about futures. > Is there any news out there about how long i will have to wait to see > something come out of the Logitech/slimdevices team? Go look at the Jive forums, there are photos, reports, feedback, etc. > Also, when is slimserver 7 going to be "officially" released? When the bugs are fixed. Seriously, it is impossible to predict when software will be finished. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Logitech does not comment on product release dates. SC7 will be soon. There was talk of releasing it in November but fortunately the development team seems more interested in getting things working properly rather than slavishly obeying some prearranged release date. However some bugs have just started to be pushed to 7.1, and there are preparations for branching the software. The Jive remote will be further away, there are LOTS of changes going on with it at the moment. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New products please!
Hi there, this is my first post but i have been a squeezebox owner for a number of months now (have a couple). I think the system is great and the forums invaluable but i have found myself asking this question for quite a bit: When will we see something new? I am really excited to expand my system into other rooms but keep comvincing myself to hold on a bit longer with rumours surrounding the Jive remote (when is that supposed to be released?) and squeezeboombox. Is there any news out there about how long i will have to wait to see something come out of the Logitech/slimdevices team? Also, when is slimserver 7 going to be "officially" released? Lots of questions! Phill -- SoftPhill SoftPhill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
