[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Michaelwagner Wrote: Considering recent events, you might factor in the elevation (above sea level) of that other computer. Yes - like silicon valley! Lots of computers, and no natural disa -- seanadams ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
seanadams Wrote: Yes - like silicon valley! Lots of computers, and no natural disaVery funny. But you might consider a computer somewhere on the other side of the san andreas fault. And then will your hard disk over to me :-) -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
dean Wrote: I plan to soon automate this and have that drive in another computer, possibly in another state. Considering recent events, you might factor in the elevation (above sea level) of that other computer. -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Well, dabs have at last shipped my SB2. They're also showing plenty extra in stock too. The price is no longer at its bargain level though. -- bludragon ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Hi, I ordered a platinum SB2 from Dabs yesterday and it came this morning -- chrisal ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Sigh. It looks as if I am suffering the same thing that someone else reported with Dabs, i.e. the stock date being slipped a few days every time it gets close. The in-stock date for the black SB2 on my order just moved from 7th Sep to 9th Sep. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Stock landed with us today but too late to ship to them for tomorrow. So dabs.com will get their stock on Thursday and ship out to you guys for Friday. Regards Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Woo hoo! Thanks for the update Paul. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
JulianL Wrote: Yeah. I hear bad things about CD-R backups all the time, I've been using CD-R since 1997, and it has proved to be a very stable medium. I think people who have bad experiences with it have been unlucky. JulianL Wrote: I have no idea whether DVD media are any better. You've got to hope that being next generation that they learned from at least some of their mistakes with the CD media but maybe that's just wishful thinking. It's still early days, but in my experience DVD-R (I actually use DVD+R) is significantly less predictable than CD-R. DVD media seems extemely variable and there's a huge amount of really poor quality media out there, whereas CD-R media seems much more stable, presumably due to its maturity and the less critical tolerances involved. But having said that, I do in fact back up my FLACs to DVD+R (using only Taiyo Yuden media) and, touch wood, I haven't had any go bad on me yet. -- cliveb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Just to get back on to the original subject. The dabs.com deal was very successful and cleared out all of the stock that they had on order from us so they had to re-order. I believe that we are getting more stock in from SD this week and we will be fulfilling all back orders as soon as the stock lands with us from Customs. Thanks Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Thanks Paul. I appreciate the update on this. My SB2 is batched up with a new motherboard and some other stuff which I thought was a luxury but now that my PC went bang has become somewhat more urgent. I guess I'll leave it until Thursday to see if the stock is in and, if not, then I'll divide up the order and just pay double shipping charges. I think the Slim Devices folks said last Thu/Fri that there was a shipment going out to you that day so hopefully it'll get here early in the week and just maybe by Thursday it'll be OK. Of course now I suppose even my new computer isn't so urgent. My broadband connection has been out for the last 48 hours and, after 2 hours on a hold queue to customer support, it was identified as a fault in the exchange (which still isn't fixed). I think I'm just going to go to bed for a very long time and hope that nothing else breaks in the meantime. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
For others awaiting Dabs shipments, the order status on my SB2 has just changed to now say simply 070905. This being England, I assume that means that they are now expecting stock on 7th September, i.e. this Wednesday. That sounds consistent with what I've heard from Slim Devices and Progressive Consumer Electronics so with any luck that should mean shipment on Thursday and delivery on Friday. As long as nothing else goes wrong it's looking good for the weekend which is the earliest I would get a chance to play with it anyway. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
I will post as soon as we have shipped them to dabs.com They will get them next day and should book them in the same day they get them (lmao) and you guys who have them ordered should get them the day after that. HTH Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Who are you, please? It's fairly obvious that your company is supplying Dabs, but Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd doesn't ring a bell. Just curious. Max ultra238a Wrote: Just to get back on to the original subject. The dabs.com deal was very successful and cleared out all of the stock that they had on order from us so they had to re-order. I believe that we are getting more stock in from SD this week and we will be fulfilling all back orders as soon as the stock lands with us from Customs. Thanks Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Aren't they the UK Distributor? -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
ultra238a Wrote: I will post as soon as we have shipped them to dabs.com SNIP HTH Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd Thanks Paul, that would be really helpful. The other two thirds of the parts I need to rebuild my computer are on their way to me from other suppliers so I'll need to make the decision on Thursday as to whether to split the Dabs order so that I can get the final computer parts by the weekend minus the SB2. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Yes we are the UK distributor. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
ultra238a Wrote: Yes we are the UK distributor. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd Hi Paul - would be interested to read your opinion of the comments in 'this' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15769) thread which discusses the limited presence of Squeezebox in the UK. -- Milhouse ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Milhouse Wrote: Hi Paul - would be interested to read your opinion of the comments in 'this' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15769) thread which discusses the limited presence of Squeezebox in the UK. Edit: Hmmm, I'm just re-reading the thread myself and now realise someone called Lee Harris from the UK Distributor has already posted, I assume he's a colleague of yours? :) -- Milhouse ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
JulianL Wrote: All in all, based on my personal experiences, I still consider Dabs one of the good guys. Here's another vote for DABS. They are always my first port of call for computer related gear, and have given consistently good service. That said, I only ever order things which are shown as in stock - arriving soon is a pretty vague term. (FWIW, I ordered my SB2 from broadbandstuff.co.uk, and it arrived the next day). -- cliveb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Of course as of today I'm not really so fussed about getting my SB2 quickly :-(. My C: drive died yesterday morning so I have bigger things to worry about right now. It's so wierd though, I've had this computer nearly 5 years and literally next weekend I was planning to commission a replacement. How did my old computer know this? If only it had waited just 8 or 9 lousy days before dying then I wouldn't have been concerned in the slightest, probably mildly amused in fact. So, no SlimServer for me right now, but luckily all my music archive went onto a LaCie external 500GB drive (bought from Dabs as it happens; delivered next day) so this vindicates that decission (to put my FLACs on an external drive). - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
JulianL Wrote: My C: drive died yesterday morning luckily all my music archive went onto a LaCie external 500GB drive (bought from Dabs as it happens; delivered next day) so this vindicates that decission (to put my FLACs on an external drive). External drives are just as likely to fail as internal ones - they ultimately use the same technology. So if you don't have your FLACs backed up somewhere else, do it asap. It's a lot easier than having to re-rip all your CDs. -- cliveb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Indeed - there's no way I'd put my music library onto a single hard disk (internal or external), mine is mirrored in a RAID array. I'm actually quite interested by the ReadyNAS X6 and would probably go for a 4-disk setup, although of course this isn't a cheap option. But then neither is my time spent re-ripping a lost music library! :) -- Milhouse ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
Millhouse, Yeah. I hear bad things about CD-R backups all the time, I have no idea whether DVD media are any better. You've got to hope that being next generation that they learned from at least some of their mistakes with the CD media but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I might well end up refreshing my archive every 6 months, partly because of the potential issues you mention (and your warning has encouraged me to take this more seriously), but also because the inevitable tagging errors will mean that the backups will get out of date. Right now I'm keeping a text file where I record any tag changes so that, if I have to restore from backup, I have a record of what tag updates I need to apply after I've done the restore. Admitedly recutting my backups will be a pain to do, my backup set currently numbers 38 DVD+Rs, but as long as I remember to set a DVD burn going whenever I pop out for lunch, go to the gym, watch some TV, go to bed, etc then I think that when the time comes and I set my mind to it I could probably cut at least 4 a day during these dead times so it would be a 10 day project to regenerate the backup set, maybe less, and to be honest it's one of those mindless projects that I find quite therapeutic (in moderation). I won't disagree with your statement that Backing up to another hard disk is probably the most cost effective... because it depends on how you trade off cost vs effectiveness but, so long as I don't re-cut my backup sets more often than once every 6 months, it is hard to beat DVD+Rs on cost alone. My total backup set will have cost me about £7.50 in blank media so I'd have to recut the backup set quite a few times to get to the cost of an additional 200GB external drive. Also, I have so many power bricks and plugs in my home office already (I just counted, I have 27 power cables and power bricks active in my office right now!) that I am very loathe to add yet another device into my system if I can avoid it. My long term plan is that in 2 years I hope to be able to add some sort of squeezebox-like system for my DVDs so at that point ripping DVDs will need a total rethink on my storage and I will use that as the trigger to upgrade my 500GB external drive to a 2TB external RAID array which I hope will be pretty affordable by then and that Blu-ray blank media will also be affordable so that the number of discs in my backup set remains constant or even reduces. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Alleged (And Possibly Untrue) Shipment Problem From SlimDevices
That's a concern. I really hope this isn't going to be the case with me. It does sound as if supplies are flowing to the UK in reasonable quantities though so I hope this is just a brief hicup. In fairness to Dabs I should point out that I've used them quite a few times in the past and have found them to be very reliable for all my other orders, typically next day delivery. Also, on the one occassion when I had a problem the third-party courier delivered to the wrong house and unfortunately whoever lived there was a totally dishonest person who decided to pretend it was the right address and that they were me. Dabs just arranged signature verification to prove it wasn't me who signed for the goods and then re-shipped another unit (a hard drive) to me. All in all, based on my personal experiences, I still consider Dabs one of the good guys. - Julian -- JulianL ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
