[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-11 Thread nabwong

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to thank everyone here. I finally got my sb3 to connect to
ss. Anyway, i still don't know what's wrong. I bought a new hard drive,
did a fresh OS install and then run slimserver. Every ok now. I needed
the hard drive upgrade anyway.

Cheers,
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Lanctot

SlimServer - Server Settings - Security.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-05 Thread Ramage

nabwong;143516 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Where is this setting? Can't seem to find it.

Under "Server settings", "Security":

"Block Incoming Connections"


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-05 Thread nabwong

SteveEast;143306 Wrote: 
> In your first post you said:
> 
> "7. Slimserver setting - opened a range of Ip"
> 
> Have you tried setting "Block Incoming Connections" to "Do not Block"?
> 
> Steve.

Hey Steve, 

Where is this setting? Can't seem to find it.

Najib


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-05 Thread SteveEast

In your first post you said:

"7. Slimserver setting - opened a range of Ip"

Have you tried setting "Block Incoming Connections" to "Do not Block"?

Steve.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-03 Thread nabwong

Thanks Guys,

I'm still at work and i'll try out the suggestions tonight. I'm sure
i'm connected to MY OWN wifi. I changed routers and both the ssid
matches. Yes i use DHCP. I will try to look into that. I've already
tried assigning static ip before. The slimdevice person didn't offer
much help. I think own conversation was only 10 mins. He just said,
there's nothing else he could do.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-03 Thread gutted

Are the laptops running a DHCP server, by any chance?

The router, by default, will have it's own DCHP server and should be
asigning an IP to the squeezebox.  But if laptops are also running
their own DHCP server, then maybe that is confusing things.

In that case, perhaps the laptop is giving the SB a new IP address as
soon as you connect the wi-fi enabled laptop and you can no longer
connect to SB via the router?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-03 Thread radish

That's a very good point - maybe you're connected to someone else's
network. That would explain everything!


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-03 Thread Millwood

I know you've said you are sure the SB3 is talking to your router but
...

If you haven't, set the router SSID to something other than the default
and make sure that's the SSID the SB3 shows when you select the wireless
network.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread radish

Millwood;142241 Wrote: 
> 
> Is it a broadcast request from the SB? 

Yes, I believe so. But even if that fails (as it would if you go
between subnets) you should be able to specify the IP of the server and
connect as normal. 

nabwong: if you manually enter the IP of the server into the squeezebox
does it find it then?

This one is really stumping me. I'm not convinced by the firewall
theory because that would require the firewall (on the PC) to know
whether the packet that hit it came from a wired or wireless segment,
and that's not really possible. I already read the router manual, and
there's no mention of an isolation feature. Hmm


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Millwood

Does anyone know how this works?

Is it a broadcast request from the SB?  Or somethine else?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread nabwong

I bought a new router. D-link 1310 wireless g. 

So i called slim devices and they couldn't help me. They are convinced
that there's a firewall that's blocking communication. I think i've
un-installed most all my programs on my computer ( unless it's some
form of virus ). Is there a utility i can use to check what kind of
firewalls i have on my computer?

Thanks,
Najib


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Ramage

The 834b uses 802.11b bandwidth 11Mb/s max, although I have seen this
kit advertised as 8Mb/s.

With that limitation it is a bad idea to connect the server by
wireless.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Ramage;141980 Wrote: 
> I have a Netgear DG834G (not the same but...) and it has a wireless
> isolation option.  The manual states:
> 
> "Wireless Isolation: If Enabled, the Wireless Stations will be hidden
> from each other, and will not be able to communicate with each other.
> For normal situations, this setting should be left at the default value
> of Disabled"
> 
> Double check your router manual for this option.
> 
> Check for isolation by pinging each of the wireless connected terminals
> - laptop to laptop.  If you can ping across 2 wireless terminals then
> isolation is not enabled.

Aha!  Thanks for that info, Ramage!


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Ramage

I have a Netgear DG834G (not the same but...) and it has a wireless
isolation option.  The manual states:

"Wireless Isolation: If Enabled, the Wireless Stations will be hidden
from each other, and will not be able to communicate with each other.
For normal situations, this setting should be left at the default value
of Disabled"

Double check your router manual for this option.

Check for isolation by pinging each of the wireless connected terminals
- laptop to laptop.  If you can ping across 2 wireless terminals then
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Do you absolutely have to have the server wireless?  A wireless server
is a bad idea.  Even if you can get it working, you may experience
bandwidth issues and you'll be doubly-vulnerable to interference.

Yes, here's the part where someone comes in and says "works for me" but
it's still a bad idea and if you can avoid it, you definitely should. 
No other server you connect to is wireless, don't treat SlimServer any
differently.

At this point, it looks like the router is running in AP isolation
mode, where wireless clients can't hear each other.  This is strange
because your router probably doesn't support this mode.  Also other
users of your router haven't reported this problem.

You may still have firewall issues though.  In an effort to be helpful,
some firewalls keep running even when they're disabled.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Ok, sb3 can't connect to my gf's laptop too. Man...must be the bloody
router?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Millwood;141855 Wrote: 
> Laptop wireless, SB3 wired?

No luck. It seems that the SB3 cannot connect to MY laptop. Got an
idea. I will try my gf's laptop.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Millwood

Laptop wireless, SB3 wired?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

I will try to rephrase what i said.

A) Laptop and SB3 are WIRED to router. SB3 connects to Slimserver

B) Laptop is WIRED and SB3 is WIRELESS. SB3 connects to Slimserver

C) Laptop and SB3 are WIRELESS. SB3 does NOT connect to Slimserver


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Ok, this is what i've done.

Laptop wired to router and SB3 wireless. Connection to slimserver OK

Laptop wireless with static ip. Cannot connect.

So what can we conclude now?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Mark Lanctot;141736 Wrote: 
> That should be 3483 TCP/UDP.

I'm at work now, and was throwing some random number :p haha.. thanks
for pointing that out. I'll re-check tonight when i get home.

Ramage,

I'll try to connect at least one of them to the router and do a test
tonight. Btw, my signal strength is 96%. I'll let you know. Appreciate
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Ramage

I think you are right, the SB3 is networking working OK.  It should see
the server IP/name in settings.

Try connecting the server laptop directly to a router port, thus
eliminating one wireless link.

Various posts on this forum have quoted issues with double wireless
links, especially with sharing bandwidth, and poor wireless signal
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Lanctot

nabwong;141731 Wrote: 
> But i've disabled the firewall and have included the 3 exceptions need
> *4843*, 9000.

That should be 3483 TCP/UDP.


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Is the slimserver laptop hard wired to the router, or is it wireless
linked?

### wireless


Did you say you could ping the SB3 from the laptop?

### I could ping the sb3 (sent 4 received 4 loss 0)


You should get IP address, gateway ,wireless id, etc without a server
present.

### got ip (dhcp), connected to wireless, can connect to squeezenetwork
via MY wifi network


Wireless is usually the most problematic of all.  It may be worth doing
a reset of the SB3 and reconfiguring the wireless connection from
scratch, if all else fails.

### I've done multiple resets with xilinx programming, and
re-re-re-configured my connection. It always connects to my wifi.

I feel as though the problem is with my Laptop. I strongly feel it's
some setting. But i've disabled the firewall and have included the 3
exceptions need 4843, 9000. I can totally control the sb when my laptop
and sb3 are wired to the router. But i can't find any other firewall i
can disable. I've spywareblaster, ad-aware, spybot, can't find
firewall. Un-installed norton already.

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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Ramage

If you are connecting to Squeezenetwork over wireless then the problem
has to be with the LAN connection.

Is the slimserver laptop hard wired to the router, or is it wireless
linked?

Did you say you could ping the SB3 from the laptop?

The SB3 should do the following from power on (plug in)

#Welcome message
#Obtain IP
#attempt to connect to slimserver if failed screen goes blank
#Press left arrow then up/down arrow to "current settings"
# use arrows to see your current networking settings.

You should get IP address, gateway ,wireless id, etc without a server
present.

Your findings will be good indication of what the SB3 is seeing.

Wireless is usually the most problematic of all.  It may be worth doing
a reset of the SB3 and reconfiguring the wireless connection from
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

Ramage;141673 Wrote: 
> Have u tried without encryption?
> 
> I had problems with my netgear DG834G which were solved by switching
> encryption to automatic rather than shared key, after some
> experimentation.
> 
> However, if you are connecting to the wireless network (??) then it's
> not a wep encryption issue but more likely a firewall issue on you
> server PC.

I've switched off the windows xp firewall and tried but failed. I've
UNINSTALLED norton also. I've no idea of any other firewall that exists
on my laptop. AVG? I can't find any avg firewall. :(

radish Wrote: 
> 
> So just to clarify - you can connect wirelessly to squeezenetwork but
> not to your own server? But you can connect to your server when wired?
> That sounds like the router is somehow blocking LAN access from the
> wireless net, which some routers have an option for but not, afaik,
> yours. 
> 
> Do you have more than one network card/connector in your server?

1. Yes i can connect to squeezenetwork
2. I can control sq3 when my laptop and sq3 are WIRED to the router
3. More than 1 network card? I'm not sure what this means but I have 2
laptops and a squeezebox connected to the router. I checked this in the
router admin setup. Laptop A is clearly labelled najibwong which is me
and Laptop B is clearly labelled maisy, my gf. And i am trying to
connect to Laptop A.

Thanks for the input!
najib


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread radish

So just to clarify - you can connect wirelessly to squeezenetwork but
not to your own server? But you can connect to your server when wired?
That sounds like the router is somehow blocking LAN access from the
wireless net, which some routers have an option for but not, afaik,
yours. 

Do you have more than one network card/connector in your server?


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Ramage

Have u tried without encryption?

I had problems with my netgear DG834G which were solved by switching
encryption to automatic rather than shared key, after some
experimentation.

However, if you are connecting to the wireless network (??) then it's
not a wep encryption issue but more likely a firewall issue on you
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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread nabwong

router - netgear 814 wireless b
os - windows xp

no mac filtering
128 bit wep encryption


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[slim] Re: Cannot connect to slimserver

2006-10-01 Thread Ramage

What are the details of your router and OS? 

Generally check the following:

# MAC address filtering on your router.
# WEP security.


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