[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver
kdf Wrote: > > > Is the IP given to the squeezebox in the right range to find your pc? > > (could it be getting one from the sitecom router, instead of your own > > local network?) > Can you ping the squeezebox IP from your PC? > -k Thanks for the quick response! I'm not able to ping the Squeezebox from my pc. The IP for my pc is 192.168.1.100 and for the Squeezebox 192.168.0.145. In the linksys administration panel it says that WAN IP is 192.168.0.114. I'm not sure what this acutally means. I'd guess that the SB gets ip from Sitecom and that the range is wrong. Have you any idea what i should change my "settings" to? Thanks, Howie -- bistrototal bistrototal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25251 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver
It works now! I just changed my linksys setting from adhoc mode to 'client bridged'. Thanks very very much! :D -- bistrototal bistrototal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25251 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver
Quoting bistrototal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: kdf Wrote: Is the IP given to the squeezebox in the right range to find your pc? (could it be getting one from the sitecom router, instead of your own local network?) Can you ping the squeezebox IP from your PC? -k Thanks for the quick response! I'm not able to ping the Squeezebox from my pc. The IP for my pc is 192.168.1.100 and for the Squeezebox 192.168.0.145. In the linksys administration panel it says that WAN IP is 192.168.0.114. Right, so the linksys is acting as another router after the sitecom. If you connect the SB wired to the linksys, you'll likely find that it works fine. I'm not sure about what settings options you have on the linksys, but it would be better if it acted as a bridge instead of a router, so that your PC gets it's IP from the sitecom, using the linksys only for the wireless communication link. -k ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver from a different computer
Perhaps a firewall on either of the machines is getting in the way? Can your Windows machine see the MAC? (eg "ping" its IP address?) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver from a different computer
Good tip, thanks. It turns out the ip address I am using cannot be pinged from anywhere, even the local machine itself. I am getting the ip from the site http://whatismyipaddress.com/ ; is there some other (perhaps local) ip address I should be using? Ulvi -- ulvi ulvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver from a different computer
I will assume you have a router between your computers and your cable/dsl modem. This is normal behavior but it can be a bit confusing. Basically most cable/dsl providers only give you one IP number and router makers know this: so they use what is call NAT (Network Address Translation) to fake things. Basically, everything on your network will have a number like 192.168.0.3 or something and the router will, when a packet goes to the internet, change that to be its own IP number, and then when it gets a reply, it will remember "oh, I changed that HTTP request from 192.168.0.3 to my IP, let me put 192.168.0.3 back in the packet where my IP is, and send it on" Effectively it is an IP-layer proxy. This means that web sites outside your network will see the IP of the router, not your real address, unless you convince your router to forward the packets. But we don't need to worry about that (I hope :P) since I gather both the server and the client IP are on the same network. You can, assuming Windows, look up the server IP in your networking settings. But I will assume you are using DHCP to dynamically assign addresses, so that may change... That's okay if both the server and the client are running windows: assuming you named the server (again, in your Windows networking setup) something like "Server", you should be able to go to http://server:9000/ and let the Windows networking stuff handle the name lookups. It will be the same name of the machine as you see in Network Neighborhood or whatever MS calls it this week. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver from a different computer
The IP you are seeing is the external IP address of your router. Without knowing how your network looks I am willing to bet that your home network uses one of the private network ranges available for use (10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x) and that your router handles IP assignment for all your computers. Whenever you access something on the Internet, your router translates the internal (private) IP address of the computer your are using into your (single) public IP address (together with something called a port number). When the respons returns to you, the router uses the port number to translate back so that the data is sent to the correct internal computer. In short it is said to NAT (Network Address Translation). It might be possible to access the Slimserver via the IP address you use but it requires the router to be able to "loop-back" the data sent from an internal computer to the external IP address but really intended for an internal computer. Even if this is possible you should realise the security implications as your server would also be accessible to anyone on the Internet. Best bet is to use the internal IP address instead. There are many ways to get the IP address of your Windows XP box but one is to do this: 1) Press "Start" and select "Run..." 2) Type "cmd" and then press Enter 3) Type "ipconfig" and then press Enter. You will see four lines for every network device on your system. One will be the IP address you should use. There are also services on Windows that would enable you to just type the computer name of your server. However, I am not sure if OS X has the necessary client support. There are other methods as well but the above is probably easiest for you. Note that the IP address of your server is probably dynamic (unless you have entered it yourself) and don't be surprised if it changes if you turn all your equipment off and then on again. -- bergek Transporter - Squeezebox 3 - Serener GS-L02 - Via EPIA SP8000 bergek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Connecting to slimserver from a different computer
OK, thanks to all who replied and noticed I was being basically stupid by using my ISP's dynamic IP. Of course I should be using the private IP of the server machine as reported by ipconfig, and when I do that it all works as supposed to. Ulvi -- ulvi ulvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mherger Wrote: > > > I wouldn't. Your slimserver would be accessible to anyone: > Thank you Michael for your answer! I'm aware of this and I for sure would have to put some additional effort into it to make it more secure. However, I still would like to know if it's somehow possible to use a name instead of a IP address for the slimserver on the SB3. And if that is not possible - how it looks like - I would like to know why that is and how the SB3 is connecting to the squeezenetwork in this case. I can't imagine that the IP@ of the server(s) is really hard coded there. Or is it? It would also be nice, if a kind of a password to connect to the slimserver could be configured on the SB3. Thanks, Stefan -- kuetstef kuetstef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6279 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mherger Wrote: > > However, I still would like to know if it's somehow possible to use a > > name instead of a IP address for the slimserver on the SB3. > > IMHO no. But the SSH client could do this for you. So instead of first > > trying to resolve a problem you finally won't have, make it secure in > the > first place ;-). > Agree as soon as the the SB is also supporting SSH ;-). Otherwise it is only working with the softsqueeze, right? mherger Wrote: > > > The server _names_ are hardcoded - no need to change them as this would > be > the case for your own slimserver. > So you are telling me that the SB is already working as a DNS client :-). Thank you for your patience! Stefan -- kuetstef kuetstef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6279 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stinkingpig Wrote: > > he wants to type slimtest.dyndns.org into the setup screen of a remote > squeezebox. Exactly :-). And because the SB seems already to support DNS I don't really see why that should be such a big thing. However, I'm open to learn something. Stefan -- kuetstef kuetstef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6279 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you haven't voted on this already, do it to request a SSH support in SqueezeBox: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 If adding the possibility to enter a hostname in the SB settings I think it would also make sense to make it possible to enter a port number. This way it would be possible to run several slimservers on the same machine and switch between them easier. For example using a slimserver instance for each family member. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist) and 'RandomPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-randomplaylist) plugins) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
erland Wrote: > If you haven't voted on this already, do it to request a SSH support in > SqueezeBox: > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2661 Combined with http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2140 it should work. That would really be great, slim devices! I'm waiting for it :-) -- kuetstef kuetstef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6279 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, I still would like to know if it's somehow possible to use a name instead of a IP address for the slimserver on the SB3. IMHO no. But the SSH client could do this for you. So instead of first trying to resolve a problem you finally won't have, make it secure in the first place ;-). I would like to know why that is Only the developers can say for sure. Maybe because it isn't needed in 99.99% of all cases (because the server is recognized automatically in a typical environment) and would only complicate things (have an input field accepting anything, not only IP addresses). and how the SB3 is connecting to the squeezenetwork in this case. I The server _names_ are hardcoded - no need to change them as this would be the case for your own slimserver. It would also be nice, if a kind of a password to connect to the slimserver could be configured on the SB3. It's already there: Server Settings -> Security. But it's rather for preventing accidental changes than usage in an insecure environment. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agree as soon as the the SB is also supporting SSH ;-). Otherwise it is only working with the softsqueeze, right? You could always use a local PC as SSH "gateway": connect it to the server, tunneling the necessary ports, and make them available on the remote network. I'm using this to do tests from at work... So you are telling me that the SB is already working as a DNS client Yes, I think it does. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, I still would like to know if it's somehow possible to use a name instead of a IP address for the slimserver on the SB3. if you use a service like dyndns, then that is completely transparent to slimserver. If your server is accessible from the outside world as 24.83.199.2, and you map that IP to slimtest.dyndns.org then the url is http://slimtest.dyndns.org:9000. As long as you set up the updater application, or donate for the static dns service then you only have to wait for the TTL for full updates to all dns servers. -k ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: connecting to slimserver by name instead [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/4/06, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, I still would like to know if it's somehow possible to use a>> name instead of a IP address for the slimserver on the SB3.>>if you use a service like dyndns, then that is completely transparent to slimserver. If your server is accessible from the outside world as24.83.199.2, and you map that IP to slimtest.dyndns.org then the url is http://slimtest.dyndns.org:9000. As long as you set up the updaterapplication, or donate for the static dns service then you only have towait for the TTL for full updates to all dns servers. -khe wants to type slimtest.dyndns.org into the setup screen of a remote squeezebox.-- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
