Re: [slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-24 Thread Chris Egolf
Well, I *tentatively* think the answer was behind door number 3.  It's 
been about 4-5 hours since I pulled the wireless card out, and the SB1 
has stayed up.  Recently, it would have shut off by now, so I'm hopeful 
that this solved it.


For future reference, what exactly is the TOSLINK LED?

seanadams wrote:

At this point you should probably contact support, since not responding
to press-and-hold-power means the unit is either wedging itself in some
way or losing power - it probably is not a network issue. I don't have
an especially likely explanation, but a couple things you might try to
narrow it down: 


- check the TOSLINK LED. it should be on at all times after startup as
long as the unit is getting power.

- The filaments (thin horizotal wires) in the VFD should be slightly
glowing. If they ever shut off, this is another indicator of a power
supply issue.

- the wireless card may be on the blink or improperly seated - it
shares the memory bus so it's conceivable that it could precipitate a
crash. if you don't need it, try removing it.





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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-24 Thread seanadams

TOSLINK = digital optical output
LED = the red light inside the connector


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-24 Thread Michaelwagner

It's behind flap number 2 :-)


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread radish

Are you sure it's actually powering off and not just losing it's network
connection? The effect can look very similar...


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Re: [slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Egolf

radish wrote:

Are you sure it's actually powering off and not just losing it's network
connection? The effect can look very similar...

Really?  I thought it just displayed a message that it had lost contact 
with the slimserver.


It's using the wired connection instead of the wireless, but I'll double 
check the connections just to be sure.


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread peterw

Chris Egolf Wrote: 
 radish wrote:
  Are you sure it's actually powering off and not just losing it's
 network
  connection? The effect can look very similar...
 
 Really?  I thought it just displayed a message that it had lost contact
 
 with the slimserver.
 
 It's using the wired connection instead of the wireless, but I'll
 double 
 check the connections just to be sure.
 
 
 About a week ago I had some odd trouble with my Squeezebox G going
 dark a couple times overnight (normally it's off and displaying the
 current time; when it misbehaved, the screen went dark entirely). It
 hasn't happened since, but I found it odd, as it's using a wired
 connection to the SlimServer host (which also acts as DHCP server; both
 the SlimServer host and the SBG are plugged into the same wireless G
 bridge [Linksys WRT54G + DD-WRT firmware]). Cycling the SBG by holding
 down the power button on the remote was enough to reconnect and restore
 the time display.
 
 In this same time period, my Squeezebox 2 (which uses 802.11g to the
 house AP) didn't have any trouble. 
 
 ISTM the SBG should have reconnected easily if it had rebooted for some
 reason, especially given how clean  simple the networking is for the
 SBG's link to SlimServer.
 
 The lost connections have not recurred, so I haven't investigated
 further. But I'd double-check your firmware (hold Brightness to force
 an update?) first, as I wonder if this may be a firmware/software
 problem. And I wonder if using a static IP address would help if you're
 losing connections, as that would remove the DHCP dependency.


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread radish

Chris Egolf Wrote: 
 radish wrote:
  Are you sure it's actually powering off and not just losing it's
 network
  connection? The effect can look very similar...
 
 Really?  I thought it just displayed a message that it had lost contact
 
 with the slimserver.
 
 It's using the wired connection instead of the wireless, but I'll
 double 
 check the connections just to be sure.
 
 Thanks.
 
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My memory of my players is that they display a message saying the
connection was lost for a moment, then try reconnecting, then give up
and just go dark. Next time it happens try holding down power and see
if it comes back to life.


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread azinck3

I've seen the same thing:  occasionally my SB1g will lose connection to
the server overnight, resulting in the typical blank screen.  A
restart (5sec pwr) does the trick.  

I've just chalked it up to my rather bizarre network arrangement but
maybe there's more to it if others are seeing the same issue.  My
network configuration is as follows:
wired sb1g into wrt54g in wireless bridge mode running dd-wrt firmware
connecting to my netgear wireless router (acting as DHCP server), the
router is wired to my cable modem which provides the internet
connection to Slimserver 6.5 that I'm running off my computer at work
(which is on a static global IP, not behind NAT--one of the perks of
working for a major university).  Amazingly, in spite of all this, I
usually get very good performance--on a good day I can stream RAW PCM
from my work computer, across the internet, across my wireless
(802.11b), to my sb1g!!

I've never had the connection-dropping problem with my wired sb1
(non-g) which is wired directly to my netgear router/switch and is
served from a pc running slimserver 5.4 wired to that same switch (I
run the two different servers because I have very different uses for
the two squeezeboxes).  It's always been dead-reliable.


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread Michaelwagner

Wireless SB1s do that when they lose network connectivity. They are very
bad about retrying (i.e. they basically don't). Hold the power button,
it'll all come back.


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Re: [slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Egolf

Michaelwagner wrote:

Wireless SB1s do that when they lose network connectivity. They are very
bad about retrying (i.e. they basically don't). Hold the power button,
it'll all come back.


Well, although it is the wireless SB1, it is wired and exhibiting this 
problem.  I've tried the suggestions of pressing and holding the power 
button, upgrading the firmware, and even replaced the network cable and 
switch port it's plugged into with no success.  The SB1 will stay on for 
several hours and then turn off completely.  It won't even respond to 
pings on the network at that point.  The only thing I've found to bring 
it back to life is unplugging the power connector and re-seating it. 
Sometimes several attempts are required.  I think it's getting worse 
over time.


All of this leads me to think it's a bad connection, somewhere in the 
SB1.  I've tested the power supply and it's delivering the correct 
voltage.  I guess it could be something with that, but I don't see how 
unplugging it would fix that.


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[slim] Re: First Gen SqueezeBox looses power

2006-05-23 Thread seanadams

At this point you should probably contact support, since not responding
to press-and-hold-power means the unit is either wedging itself in some
way or losing power - it probably is not a network issue. I don't have
an especially likely explanation, but a couple things you might try to
narrow it down: 

- check the TOSLINK LED. it should be on at all times after startup as
long as the unit is getting power.

- The filaments (thin horizotal wires) in the VFD should be slightly
glowing. If they ever shut off, this is another indicator of a power
supply issue.

- the wireless card may be on the blink or improperly seated - it
shares the memory bus so it's conceivable that it could precipitate a
crash. if you don't need it, try removing it.


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