[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Pale Blue Ego;144979 Wrote: I really wish FLAC had standard support for embedded art.http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/flac/flac/doc/html/changelog.html New PICTURE metadata block for storing things like cover art, new --picture option to flac and --import-picture option to metaflac for importing pictures, and metadata API additions for searching for suitable pictures based on type, size and color constraints. V1.1.3 is beta at the moment (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=49182), and would then need SlimServer support for it, but it's a future possibility. -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], NigelMSB[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pale Blue Ego;144979 Wrote: I really wish FLAC had standard support for embedded art.http://flac.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/flac/flac/doc/html/changelog.html New PICTURE metadata block for storing things like cover art, new --picture option to flac and --import-picture option to metaflac for importing pictures, and metadata API additions for searching for suitable pictures based on type, size and color constraints. V1.1.3 is beta at the moment (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=49182), and would then need SlimServer support for it, but it's a future possibility. Slimserver can already handle coverart embedded in the tags of a FLAC file (it uses the 'COVERART' tag, which contains a Base64 encoded version of the image). My flactag utility for Linux (http://www.gently.org.uk/flactag) will support this in its next release, due any day now (coverart is retrieved from Amazon after getting all the tag information from MusicBrainz). Andy ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
TCM Thanks for that link. I'd done some searching before for such a tool and hadn't seen that one. I've just spent a couple of hours on my rips and must have a 90%+ match so far. Great stuff -- ncpl ncpl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
BBobley;144803 Wrote: By the way: what tag holds the pointer to the external file? What is the format for that tag? There isn't any pointer (or tag) in the audio file. The association is solely based on the audio and image files being in the same directory. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
I like the idea of embedding the cover art in the mp3. Yes, it's a slight waste of space, but it seems the most elegant solution. Since I use a 200x200 pixel image, it's usually only 8-12 kb. I really wish FLAC had standard support for embedded art. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Here's my Album Artwork setup if it helps: - Each album is in a seperate folder in my overall heirachy - I create two artwork files in each folder: -- folder.jpg (200x200 pixels) -- albumartsmall.jpg (75x75 pixels) - I embed the folder.jpg image as Album Art inside each MP3 using TagRename. SS then uses the folder.jpg image as the large image when looking at the album info in the SS web interface. It uses albumartsmall.jpg as the thumbnail image when browsing the albums gallery. I think the embedded image is displayed in the now playing info in the web interface as the track is played. I manually downloaded all my album artwork from web sites like amazon.com/music, allmusic.com, allofmp3.com and search on images.google.com when I can't find it on a music site. Hope that helps. Cheers. -- shabbs [shabbs] *MP3s:* 67.2 GB / 9,653 songs and growing! | *MP3 ripper:* 'EAC' (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) 0.95b4 [secure] w/ 'Lame' (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html) v3.97b2 [-V 0] *Audio:* 'SB1, SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) | *Storage:* 'Linksys NSLU2' (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1118334819312pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper), 'WDG1U5000 500GB External USB Drive' (http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=232language=en) shabbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
slimpy;144944 Wrote: There isn't any pointer (or tag) in the audio file. The association is solely based on the audio and image files being in the same directory. -s. I think Slimpy is right. I just hunted down some information about the standard tags used in an MP3 file. According to this site (link below), there is a way to embed a picture file into an MP3. However, there does NOT appear to be a standard way to provide a pointer or link to an externally stored picture. I believe that the concept of putting your picture file in the same folder as the MP3 is a Slim Devices-only idea. Hence, other MP3 players wouldn't be able to see the album art if it wasn't embedded. Here's a link: http://www.id3.org/frames.html I'm still doing a bit of research to figure out how iTunes handles album art. It can definitely see the image embedded in a MP3. But it also seems to have its own method for pointing to an image file. If I learn more I will post here. -- BBobley BBobley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1338 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Windows Media Player also supports the picture file in the folder concept. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
I found some information about iTunes. They have completely changed the way they handle artwork in version 7. Namely: iTunes no longer stores artwork in the actual track's file but organized in one of two folders in the ~/Music/iTunes/Album Artwork folder named Local and Download. The Local folder contains artwork from your current tracks and the Download folder contains artwork retrieved from the iTunes Store. Full article: http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/itinfo/itunes7info.php -- BBobley BBobley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1338 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Gregory Hamilton;145076 Wrote: Windows Media Player also supports the picture file in the folder concept. so does Amarok -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Why don't you try Album Art Aggregator [ http://team.thenexusnet.com/nexus/AAA/ ]? It's simple and does the job. It searches for covers on teh Amazon sites in USA, England, Germany and Japan. My only problem is that I have quite a lot of swedish cd:s and they can be hard to find. A simple how-to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0roTPoIH-I +---+ |Filename: AAA.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1816| +---+ -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Thanks for the tip TCM. I was just previewing, and becoming a bit frustrated with, Album Cover Art Downloader, and gave your suggestion Album Art Aggregator a try. It is still a bit of a quirky program, but hits the mark more often than it misses. I like the price. -- utowana utowana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4204 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Thanks everyone for info. Let me make sure I understand: The MP3 standard allows the album art to be stored: a) embedded inside the MP3 file or b) a pointer is embedded that points to the image file located elsewhere in the filesystem Is that right? And how does Apple's iTunes album art work exactly? Perhaps it designed to work across multiple file types (e.g. MP3, AAC, etc?) Are there pros and cons to these different methods? Anyone know of a technical discussion of these different techniques? thanks very much! -- BBobley BBobley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1338 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
BBobley wrote: Thanks everyone for info. Let me make sure I understand: The MP3 standard allows the album art to be stored: First, you have to realise that MP3 is one of the least standardized standards in the 'net. It is much more ad-hoc than any sort of real standard (such as Internet/IETF RFCs). a) embedded inside the MP3 file b) a pointer is embedded that points to the image file located elsewhere in the filesystem Are there pros and cons to these different methods? Anyone know of a technical discussion of these different techniques? The SlimServer also allows the album art to just be in the same disk folder as the song files. The obvious advantage of having a pointer to an external image file is that you don't have to duplicate the art for all of the tunes in the album. Most CDs have only cover, and typically have 10 or so tunes per CD. The obvious advantage of having the image emb edded in the song file is that when you move the file, transfer it to another device, etc. the album cover moves too. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
Pat Farrell;144781 Wrote: The obvious advantage of having a pointer to an external image file is that you don't have to duplicate the art for all of the tunes in the album. Most CDs have only cover, and typically have 10 or so tunes per CD. The obvious advantage of having the image emb edded in the song file is that when you move the file, transfer it to another device, etc. the album cover moves too. Thank you Pat. That is quite helpful. Do most of the major MP3 players out there support both these two methods? (e.g. using a pointer to external image and embedding image?). I'm assuming the third method (having the image in the same folder) is Slim-only. By the way: what tag holds the pointer to the external file? What is the format for that tag? -- BBobley BBobley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1338 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
I use a couple methods. My tagging software (Cowbell, probably only linux) will pick up some covers and store them as cover.jpg in the albums folder. Failing that I have a couple tabs open on my browser set to Amazon and Google. I tried to find the largest image possible (closest to original) and save it in the same way as above. It's tedious for sure but it's worth it to browse by cover sometimes. Easier to spot something you haven't listened to in a while -- notanatheist notanatheist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Looking for Good Info on Album Art Downloading
You can keep album art in a seperate image file, or directly in the mp3 itself (in a tag). iTunes will read from either location, but if you use it to download, it saves it in a seperate file - where other apps can't see it. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
