[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
The quickest way to add support for MP3Pro would be if one of the open source players supported it to do transcoding but so far AFAIK none do (e.g. Mplayer, VLC). Besides Winamp - what other players support MP3pro ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
> I think the point is that for any given available bandwidth, an mp3pro > stream will sound better than a regular mp3 one. So it would be nice if > the SB3 supported mp3pro. That's exactly my point. And that many Live365 stations use it, so it might be useful to others, too. Anyway, I'm not complaining. Very happy with my SB3 (so far). But, you know... we all seem to want... more. :-) If SB3 suddenly supported MP3Pro tomorrow, something else would no doubt get my attention as the next request. Continual improvement, etc. DG -- dgpretzel dgpretzel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
stinkingpig Wrote: > > Yes, I'm implying that effective bandwidth is usually pretty poor. This > is > the point where lots of people chime in that it works fine for them, > in > five, four, three... > I think the point is that for any given available bandwidth, an mp3pro stream will sound better than a regular mp3 one. So it would be nice if the SB3 supported mp3pro. Not something I personally would use, but I can see the OP's point. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mp3pro?
On 7/18/06, dgpretzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't this mean they should be playable anyway? just at reduced> quality Yes, I never intended to suggest that I couldn't hear the MP3Prostreams usning by SB3. Just wishing for all the fidelity I can get.For example, if MP3Pro is twice as efficient as MP3 (I think this isthe claim), then decoding a 64 Kbs MP3Pro stream would be comparable to a 128 Kbs MP3 stream.>Which is probably the case anyway due to Internet streaming...I'm not sure I fully understand the comment. Isn't it more of abandwidth issue, than the particular delivery mechanism? Regards,DGYes, I'm implying that effective bandwidth is usually pretty poor. This is the point where lots of people chime in that it works fine for them, in five, four, three... -- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
> Doesn't this mean they should be playable anyway? just at reduced > quality Yes, I never intended to suggest that I couldn't hear the MP3Pro streams usning by SB3. Just wishing for all the fidelity I can get. For example, if MP3Pro is twice as efficient as MP3 (I think this is the claim), then decoding a 64 Kbs MP3Pro stream would be comparable to a 128 Kbs MP3 stream. >Which is probably the case anyway due to Internet streaming... I'm not sure I fully understand the comment. Isn't it more of a bandwidth issue, than the particular delivery mechanism? Regards, DG -- dgpretzel dgpretzel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mp3pro?
On 7/18/06, funkstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3pro > Any mp3 player can play mp3PRO files but they will be played at a sample> rate that is half of the sample rate they are intended to be played atDoesn't this mean they should be playable anyway? just at reduced qualityWhich is probably the case anyway due to Internet streaming...-- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3pro > Any mp3 player can play mp3PRO files but they will be played at a sample > rate that is half of the sample rate they are intended to be played at Doesn't this mean they should be playable anyway? just at reduced quality -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
Too bad. It just seems to me that Mp3Pro is a major factor at Live365, and Live365 is a major factor in internet radio, which is a major intended use of SB. [Off topic rant] I guess we have the whole weird way intellectual property law has evolved to thank this kind of situation. Sort of makes me wonder what it would be like if algorithms or equations were patentable in years gone by. Would Eisntein have patented E=mc^2? Or just try to conceive what might have happened if Maxwell had owned/patented his equations? Or what about any number of numerical method algorithms? Etc. [/Off topic rant] DG -- dgpretzel dgpretzel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
stinkingpig Wrote: > Hm, I was assuming a licensed transcode on SN servers, but you're > probably right. Two problems with that. 1) you would need *massive* amounts of processing power and bandwidth as at the moment SN only sends control and display information, not the actual stream, that comes directly from the host, like it does with a desktop client. 2) there could be legal issues with transcoding and re-streaming, could be defined as re-broadcasting. Not all streams will have a problem with this, but there may be some. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mp3pro?
On 7/17/06, funkstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For MP3Pro support of Internat radio staions, the decoder would need tobe intregated in the SBs firmware. This would require a license for every unit i believeHm, I was assuming a licensed transcode on SN servers, but you're probably right.-- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
For MP3Pro support of Internat radio staions, the decoder would need to be intregated in the SBs firmware. This would require a license for every unit i believe -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mp3pro?
On 7/16/06, dgpretzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you for your rapid response.I should have figured that "proprietariness" was at least involved, if
not the main reason.I was motivated by the fact that I find myself listening to internetradio (via Squeezenetwork) much more than I anticipated I might. Isuppose because of the availability of niche, very highly focused
streams from Live365 (I listen to several of their stations). Mp3Prois used quite a bit on Live365, and since internet radio is anexplicitly intended use of the SB, I wondered if there might be somekind of "switch" I could turn on to activate it.
I'm not aware of any open source mp3pro decoder. But, I'm probably nota very good source for info such as that.Assuming mpepro is not available open source, would something like thatbe a possible (paid subscription) value-add that could be delivered via
squeezenet?Thanks again.DGIt isn't inconceivable ("Vizzini, are you sure that word means what you think it means?"), but it would have to be done through SqueezeNetwork and would probably only be available in the States. Pandora is an example of the type of integration you'd see.
However, it's a long way from "feasible" to "done," and no one outside of SDI knows how much progress has been made down that path (or if anything is on the path at all).-- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional
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[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
Thank you for your rapid response. I should have figured that "proprietariness" was at least involved, if not the main reason. I was motivated by the fact that I find myself listening to internet radio (via Squeezenetwork) much more than I anticipated I might. I suppose because of the availability of niche, very highly focused streams from Live365 (I listen to several of their stations). Mp3Pro is used quite a bit on Live365, and since internet radio is an explicitly intended use of the SB, I wondered if there might be some kind of "switch" I could turn on to activate it. I'm not aware of any open source mp3pro decoder. But, I'm probably not a very good source for info such as that. Assuming mpepro is not available open source, would something like that be a possible (paid subscription) value-add that could be delivered via squeezenet? Thanks again. DG -- dgpretzel dgpretzel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mp3pro?
Is there an open-source implementation of an mp3pro decoder? Being closed, mp3pro is likely already dying a quick death when compared to something like Ogg. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
