Re: [slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-23 Thread Avi Schwartz
Michael Amster wrote:
Avi Schwartz wrote:
Dan Sully wrote:
* Avi Schwartz shaped the electrons to say...
Ripped some tracks from an Israeli CD.  Tagged the tracks in 
Hebrew.  The slimserver 6.x web interface correctly shows the Hebrew 
text.  The squeeze box however shows a bunch of question marks 
instead.  I thought that version 6 was supposed to allow the display 
of UTF-8 characters.  Am I wrong?


Avi - although we support UTF-8 throughout the server, we don't have 
all the
fonts (yet) for them on the player display.

-D

Any idea when is this coming?  I'd hate to tag my Hebrew CDs twice.  
What type of font is it?  Can we use our own font or is the font part 
of the firmware?

Avi
Avi:
Another interesting issue is that the scrolling will be backwards for 
Hebrew - maybe there should be a left to right scroller for right to 
left languages like Hebrew
I am aware of the direction issue, and while it will be awkward, it 
still is better then not have Hebrew letters at all.  I am sure the same 
problem exists with Arabic, Japanese, etc. but what about Cyrillic 
fonts, can they be displayed currently?  It looks to me like the font 
issue is something the Slim folks need to put more emphasis on, and not 
just because of Hebrew, of course.  It is a big world out there and many 
are not using a Latin font.  Just look at the Arab speaking world and 
Chinese and Japanese and Russian.  Big markets.

BTW, as far as the scrolling direction I have a feeling it is a much 
smaller issue for the developers then the font issue.  Of course there 
will still be the problem of how to decide which direction to scroll on 
a track by track basis.  But then that can be some kind of tag.

Avi
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Re: [slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-23 Thread Michael Amster
Avi Schwartz wrote:
Dan Sully wrote:
* Avi Schwartz shaped the electrons to say...
Ripped some tracks from an Israeli CD.  Tagged the tracks in 
Hebrew.  The slimserver 6.x web interface correctly shows the Hebrew 
text.  The squeeze box however shows a bunch of question marks 
instead.  I thought that version 6 was supposed to allow the display 
of UTF-8 characters.  Am I wrong?

Avi - although we support UTF-8 throughout the server, we don't have 
all the
fonts (yet) for them on the player display.

-D

Any idea when is this coming?  I'd hate to tag my Hebrew CDs twice.  
What type of font is it?  Can we use our own font or is the font part 
of the firmware?

Avi
Avi:
Another interesting issue is that the scrolling will be backwards for 
Hebrew - maybe there should be a left to right scroller for right to 
left languages like Hebrew

-MA
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Re: [slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-23 Thread Marc Sherman
Christian Pernegger wrote:
Any idea when is this [UTF-8 support on the sb] coming?  I'd hate to 
tag my Hebrew CDs twice.

I tag my foreign language music by setting each tag twice, e. g.:
ARTIST=遊佐未森
ARTIST=Yusa Mimori
Alternatively, SlimServer could use Text::Unidecode to transliterate 
unicode to US-ASCII for regions of the unicode character set that are 
missing from the squeezebox fonts.

- Marc
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Re: [slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-23 Thread Christian Pernegger
Any idea when is this [UTF-8 support on the sb] coming?  I'd hate to tag my 
Hebrew CDs twice.
I tag my foreign language music by setting each tag twice, e. g.:
ARTIST=遊佐未森
ARTIST=Yusa Mimori
and so on for ALBUM and TITLE. Slimserver will always use the last 
occurrence of a given tag, so that will be some transcribed version in 
latin-1, while the original information resides in the first one. Compatible 
software like foobar2000 will always show both tags or be configurable. This 
works at least for formats with vorbis tags, i.e. ogg and flac.

Should there come a time when all my playback software and hardware supports 
UTF-8 I can just remove the latin-1 entries via a script.

C.
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Re: [slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-23 Thread Avi Schwartz
Dan Sully wrote:
* Avi Schwartz shaped the electrons to say...
Ripped some tracks from an Israeli CD.  Tagged the tracks in Hebrew.  
The slimserver 6.x web interface correctly shows the Hebrew text.  
The squeeze box however shows a bunch of question marks instead.  I 
thought that version 6 was supposed to allow the display of UTF-8 
characters.  Am I wrong?

Avi - although we support UTF-8 throughout the server, we don't have 
all the
fonts (yet) for them on the player display.

-D
Any idea when is this coming?  I'd hate to tag my Hebrew CDs twice.  
What type of font is it?  Can we use our own font or is the font part of 
the firmware?

Avi
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[slim] Re: Non Roman charaters. How?

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Sully
* Avi Schwartz shaped the electrons to say...
Ripped some tracks from an Israeli CD.  Tagged the tracks in Hebrew.  
The slimserver 6.x web interface correctly shows the Hebrew text.  The 
squeeze box however shows a bunch of question marks instead.  I thought 
that version 6 was supposed to allow the display of UTF-8 characters.  
Am I wrong?
Avi - although we support UTF-8 throughout the server, we don't have all the
fonts (yet) for them on the player display.
-D
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