Re: [slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
snarlydwarf said the following on 02/02/2006 03:57 AM: > dborn Wrote: > >>And I decide to play songs with the following criteria: >>include rock, exclude grunge >> > > > It's wrong because it's based on a faulty premise... > > There is only "include" > > There is no exclude. > > It would be nice if there was one, IMHO. > > But there isn't. What he said. R. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
dborn Wrote: > > And I decide to play songs with the following criteria: > include rock, exclude grunge > It's wrong because it's based on a faulty premise... There is only "include" There is no exclude. It would be nice if there was one, IMHO. But there isn't. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
So I am wrong to assume that if I have songs with multiple tags such as: 01-song1 genre: rock;grunge 02-song2 genre: rock;light 03-song3 genre: rock;hard 04-song4 genre: pop;light And I decide to play songs with the following criteria: include rock, exclude grunge This would return me songs 2,3 (instead of songs 1,2,3) This sounds wrong to you?? so how would you make the "exclude" thing work then?? -- dborn dborn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=181 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
dborn said the following on 01/31/2006 11:27 PM: > Peter van Cooten Wrote: > >>Another question is what happens when you have the genre tag >>"rap;indecent", >>and start a random mix INcluding "rap" and EXcluding "indecent". >>I don't know, but I guess it still would be played based on the "rap" >>tag. > > > I would think that any EXclude should take precedence over any > INclude... You would think wrong! As I recall, there were considerable discussions about how this should work when Max wrote the plugin, and there have been several discussions on the lists/forums about this issue, and the bottom line is that the wording on the web page says: "Genres to include in your mix:" So, tick one of the boxes and tracks tagged with that genre get included. If you've got tracks tagged with multiple genres then the track will be included if it contains any one of the selected genres. R. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
Peter van Cooten Wrote: > Another question is what happens when you have the genre tag > "rap;indecent", > and start a random mix INcluding "rap" and EXcluding "indecent". > I don't know, but I guess it still would be played based on the "rap" > tag. I would think that any EXclude should take precedence over any INclude... -- dborn dborn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=181 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
Richie Wrote: > > Slimserver does read multiple genres in separate tags. > For FLAC. yes, but it's misformatted to have multiple TCON frames in an id3 tag. id3v2.3 spec Wrote: > > There may only be one text information frame of its kind in an tag. > (And actually with id3v2.3, the delimiter for multiple tags seems unclear -- at one point in the spec, it says that \0 is reserved as end-of-string and illegal in a field as anything else unless it's specifically stated in the field description as being legal.. and it doesn't say it's legal in the TCON field... nor does it show any terminator at all.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
I think that's the problem -- the standard is null-terminated strings, so if a program doesn't actually support them it may be impossible to fake it. You may be able to use '\0' as the seperator in slimserver. I haven't tried, but it may very well work... but then you're back to the "how the heck can I generate these" problem... (It's the same with other multi-value fields in id3 tags... artist, for example, can take multiple null-terminated strings, but very little in the way of taggers supports that.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
If you have the following: Genre: Rock ; Explicit Genre: Rock Genre: Explicit RandomPlay will let you choose the rock and/or the explicit genres. If you choose rock, the first two tracks will play. If you choose explicit, the last two will. In other words, it's an "or" of the tags, which may bite you if you use multiple-genres per track (ie, there's no way to make 'Rock' not play the first track at the moment). As for tags themselves -- it's whatever you can get in the tags. id3v1 for mp3's only has a single byte for genres so only has selections from a list. id3v2 and flac metas allow whatever you want there and do allow multiple genres. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Random Mix: Limiting what is played
FWIW, MusicMagic allows you to exclude albums, artists, tracks, etc., from its mixes. It also allows you to rate tracks via a rating system and exclude certain ratings from the mix. There's a free trial. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20623 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
