[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-08 Thread treble

JJZolx;144158 Wrote: 
> Treble, again, the basic search is a simple search for a text string. 
> It's _not_ a search for an artist, so it won't read your mind and pull
> up the tracks for the artists matched by the string.  Use the Advanced
> search to do that.

Maybe I am a little dense, but if the simple search is searching for
text strings in the TITLE, ARTIST and ALBUM fields, why doesn't it find
all tracks by an artist then?  Isn't the artist just a text string in
the ARTIST field?

Example:
SONG TITLE:Pata Pata 
ALBUM: Putumayo Presents The Best Of World Music, Vol. 1: World Vocal
ARTIST: Miriam Makeba

If I search for "Makebe" this song doesn't show up, but searching for
"Pata" it does...


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-07 Thread JJZolx

ceejay;143975 Wrote: 
> Interesting, thats not the behaviour I'm seeing.  If I search on Elton
> John I get to a list of albums, which includes both the sole-artist
> albums and the compilation albums on which he appears.
> 
> Which I think is the behaviour you want?
> 
> So, which version of slimserver are you using? What settings do you
> have for compilation albums?
> 
> You might want to try upgrading to 6.5.1 nightly and rescanning as
> there have been some changes...
Ceejay, are you sure you're talking about the _basic_ search ('Search
Music') and not the advanced search?  The Advanced Search works like
this if you search for an artist.  The basic search does not, nor is it
designed to.

Treble, again, the basic search is a simple search for a text string. 
It's _not_ a search for an artist, so it won't read your mind and pull
up the tracks for the artists matched by the string.  Use the Advanced
search to do that.


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-07 Thread ceejay

Well, I'm using a 6.5.1 nightly from a few nights ago, you might need to
give it a try?  Copy your current slimserver directory so you can roll
back easily if you find it creates more problems than it solves...

Ceejay


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-07 Thread treble

Hi Ceejay,
Yes, that's the behavior I would like :-)

I am using the following version:
VERSION INFO
SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows 2000 - EN - cp1252
Server IP address: 192.168.168.210
Perl Version: 5.8.7 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt 


My compilations settings are as follows:
List compilation albums under each artist
List albums by all artists for that album

I have been thinking about upgrading to 6.5.1, but I am reading to many
problems with MusicMagic integration.  MusicMagic (MusicIP mixer) works
ok for me on 6.5.0 (except for sometimes getting empty playlists
because of probably accented characters in filename, but that's another
thread...)

Thanks!


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-07 Thread ceejay

treble;143951 Wrote: 
> Maybe I wasn't totally clear.
> 
> When I search for Makeba it doesn't show all songs performed by her
> (where she is the artist) on Various Artist albums, like these two:
> 
> 4. Pata Pata from Putumayo Presents The Best Of World Music, Vol. 1:
> World Vocal by Miriam Makeba
> 1. Pata Pata 2000 from New World Party by Miriam Makeba
> 
> So it seems that normal search only picks up those albums where Makeba
> is the sole artist.  To confirm this when I search for an artist who is
> only present on a Various Artist album, the search doesn't return
> anything.  However, using Advanced Search  does find the song...  I am
> not sure why this should be intended behavior.  Don't you want to find
> 'all' songs by an artist when you search for it?


Interesting, thats not the behaviour I'm seeing.  If I search on Elton
John I get to a list of albums, which includes both the sole-artist
albums and the compilation albums on which he appears.

Which I think is the behaviour you want?

So, which version of slimserver are you using? What settings do you
have for compilation albums?

You might want to try upgrading to 6.5.1 nightly and rescanning as
there have been some changes...

HTH
Ceejay


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-06 Thread treble

Maybe I wasn't totally clear.

When I search for Makeba it doesn't show all songs performed by her
(where she is the artist) on Various Artist albums, like these two:

4. Pata Pata from Putumayo Presents The Best Of World Music, Vol. 1:
World Vocal by Miriam Makeba
1. Pata Pata 2000 from New World Party by Miriam Makeba

So it seems that normal search only picks up those albums where Makeba
is the sole artist.  To confirm this when I search for an artist who is
only present on a Various Artist album, the search doesn't return
anything.  However, using Advanced Search  does find the song...  I am
not sure why this should be intended behavior.  Don't you want to find
'all' songs by an artist when you search for it?


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Re: [slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-04 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/2/06, Pat Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
treble wrote:> Of course it's a bug...  if I search for an artist and don't get all> songs by that artist it's wrong.How do you define "all the songs" by an artist?All the songs the artist wrote? Played on? Were released by a group that
the musician was in, even if he didn't play/sing on the particular song?All the versions of his song covered by other groups?When you search for Paul McCartney, do you want only his solo albumsongs? Include The Beatles? Wings? How about the Traveling Wilburys?
What is a Bob Dylan song?Does it include Robert Zimmerman's songs?--Pathttp://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html
that seems kinda disingenuous, given that the information relies on the tag library, and the tag library is pretty minimal for most users. I agree that the functionality is fine as it is, but treble's problem can be summed up more precisely with "Slimserver doesn't act like iTunes". He's wanting it to show him a list of songs, then filter that list down when he types an artist into the search box.
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Re: [slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-02 Thread Pat Farrell

treble wrote:

Of course it's a bug...  if I search for an artist and don't get all
songs by that artist it's wrong.


How do you define "all the songs" by an artist?
All the songs the artist wrote? Played on? Were released by a group that 
the musician was in, even if he didn't play/sing on the particular song?

All the versions of his song covered by other groups?

When you search for Paul McCartney, do you want only his solo album 
songs? Include The Beatles? Wings? How about the Traveling Wilburys?


What is a Bob Dylan song?
Does it include Robert Zimmerman's songs?

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Re: [slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-02 Thread Ben Sandee
On 10/2/06, treble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course it's a bug...  if I search for an artist and don't get allsongs by that artist it's wrong.
I would hate the behavior you describe.  It gives you the artist, which you can click and then you have all albums by that artist.  That's a much more useful search behavior.Ben 

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Re: [slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-02 Thread Robin Bowes
treble wrote:
> Of course it's a bug...  if I search for an artist and don't get all
> songs by that artist it's wrong.

Read carefully what you're saying.

You're searching for an artist, not for songs by that artist. As you've
already discovered, you need to use advanced search for that.

However, once you've found your artist, clicking on the artist name
shuold show all albums by that artist which does not seem to be
happening in your case.

R.

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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-10-02 Thread treble

Of course it's a bug...  if I search for an artist and don't get all
songs by that artist it's wrong.


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[slim] Re: Search bug?

2006-09-30 Thread JJZolx

treble;141383 Wrote: 
> Not all songs show up when I do a search for an artist.  Only doing an
> Advanced Search will show them.  However, looking for a title reports
> all songs...
Doesn't look like a bug to me.  The way the basic search works is that
it searches for the string within an artist, album, or track name.  So
if you do a basic search for 'makeba' it will show you any artist,
album or track containing the string 'makeba'.  It won't show you all
the albums and tracks recorded by the artist with that name.

(Note: there's a server setting for the search behavior to either
search the beginnig or _within_ words - I'd recommend setting it to
search within for more complete results.  See: Server Settings >
Behavior > Search Within Words)


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