[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I don't run anti-virus and have already disabled the Firewall (as I said). CPU usage is very low with no spikes. Looking at Server and Network Health all requests are being processed in a very short time. My server is a Pentium 4 2.6GHz with 512MB RAM. -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
To rule out network issues - do you see the same thing playing to softsqueeze? How is you music stored - is it via a local hard disk or is it remote to the server [over a network or on slow USB link]? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I haven't tried SoftSqueeze yet. I'll give it a go in a minute. I also want to try going back to SlimServer 6.2.1. My music is on a fast local IDE hard disk. And an update on WMA VBR. Another really wierd result is that WMA VBR transcoded to WAV is also missing the end of the track even though FLAC transcoded to WAV isn't. WMA VBR native Buffer increases to 100% slowly Dropouts near start of track Playback stops half-way through track with buffer still reading 100% WMA VBR to FLAC Buffer goes to 100% quickly and stays there No obvious dropouts End of track is missing WMA VBR to WAV Buffer goes to 0% and stays there for a long time (10s) Frequent dropouts Buffer increases to 100% slowly End of track is missing -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I've got some interesting results from Softsqueeze. It doesn't have any of the buffering problems and it also doesn't have the problem with dropping the end of native FLAC files and files transcoded to FLAC. However, it does have the problem with dropping the end of WMA VBR files transcoded to WAV. I'm going to try running Softsqueeze on a remote PC next. SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 - 6200 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Softsqueeze Windows firewall disabled Windows XP Pro SP2 Pentium 4 2.6GHz FLAC native Buffer goes to 100% quickly and stays there No obvious dropouts End of track is present WAV to FLAC Buffer goes to 100% quickly and stays there No obvious dropouts End of track is present WMA VBR to WAV Buffer goes to 100% quickly and stays there No obvious dropouts End of track is missing -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Maybe you have a defective unit. Have you contacted Slim support? -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I've just done a test with SoftSqueeze running on a different PC. So far it looks like over a wired connection it behaves like Softsqueeze did when I ran it on the server PC whereas over a wireless connection it behaves like the Squeezebox. Which is another wierd result. So it looks like: 1) FLAC files (or any other file transcoded to FLAC) don't play out properly on the Squeezebox but do on Softsqueeze 2) WMA VBR transcoded to WAV don't play out properly on the Squeezebox or on Softsqueeze 3) Buffering isn't working correctly on the Squeezebox (wired or wireless) or on a remote copy of Softsqueeze (wireless) but is working on a remote copy of Softsqueeze (wired). However, the behaviour varies depending on both the initial file format and the stream format (e.g. WMA VBR or WAV transcoded to FLAC does get buffered correctly in all cases). The fact that a PC running Softsqueeze over a wireless connection behaves EXACTLY like my Squeezebox suggests to me its not a defective unit. -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Long shot, I know, but have you considered the possibility of a faulty (wired) network? I can recall at least one instance of someone having all sorts of problems that came down to a faulty LAN cable Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I've just gone back to 6.2.1 and downgraded the Squeezebox firmware from 29 to 28 and all the buffering problems seem to have gone. I haven't tried it wirelessly yet and I haven't looked to see what its doing to the ends of tracks either. I think I'll leave the beta testing for others in future. Oddly enough, Softsqueeze over wireless still isn't working right. -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Most things are now working with SlimServer 6.2.1. I can even stream WAV over wireless with no dropouts whatsoever (to the Squeezebox if not Softsqueeze). I still have the problem with the ends of FLAC files (#1434) and the problem with the ends of WMA VBR files transcoded to WAV (which isn't a known bug) and buffering of WMA VBR native files is still a problem (#2944) and the problem with WMA VBR native files stopping halfway through (#2938). FLAC native End of track is missing WAV to FLAC End of track is missing FLAC to WAV End of track is present WAV native End of track is present WMA VBR to WAV End of track is missing WMA VBR native Slow to fill buffer and dropouts near start of track Stops halfway through with buffer still saying 100% -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Well, you'd be right, there's no point fiddling with EAC and DACs if we're having bits of files chopped off... so the inference may be that its just you! I only use FLAC (and a few AACs) but I've not seen any gaps being chopped recently, and I think I would have spotted it as some of it is gapless classical stuff. So we need to find out what's unusual about your setup. A good place to start mught be to check that Crossfade is turned off (Player Settings /Audio). Then to confirm exactly which build of 6.2.2 you have (bottom of Server Settings page). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Indeed, in general there's nothing inherently wrong the the SBs sound reproduction, in fact it's generally excellent. Dropouts are fairly common if you have network issues, beyond that there is a known issue with FLAC files sometimes missing the very end of the file, leading to slightly glitchy transitions. In my experience we're talking about considerably less than a second, but it is annoying. The workaround (if this is the issue you're facing) is to switch off native FLAC and stream as PCM. Doing that leads to 100% perfect playback on my setup. If you're interested, the bug report is here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434 -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Okay, I've just done a fairly controlled test. It looks like I'm seeing bug #1434 plus a completely different network or buffering problem. I checked the Server and Network Health whilst running the tests and it indicated that a low buffer was my only problem. So I'm no closer to finding out what is causing the low buffer. I have to repeat this test with WMA VBR but I believe the dropouts I am seeing there occur even when I have a 100% full buffer. SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 - 6200 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Netgear WGR614v4 wireless router PC and Squeezebox both connected to router via 100Mbit ethernet Windows firewall disabled Windows XP Pro SP2 Pentium 4 2.6GHz Cross-fading is switched off FLAC native Buffer goes to 10% Buffer goes down to 0% and stays there for a long time Frequent dropouts Buffer increases slowly to 100% End of track is missing FLAC to WAV Buffer goes to 0% and stays there Frequent dropouts Buffer does not increase End of track is present WAV native Buffer goes to 0% and stays there Massive dropouts Buffer does not increase End of track is present WAV to FLAC Buffer goes to 100% quickly and stays there No obvious dropouts End of track is missing -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Low buffers are caused by not having enough bandwidth on the network. You've got a weak signal, interference, or both. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Both PC and Squeezebox are connected to the router by cable! The Network Test plugin indicates I have at least 4Mbits of bandwidth. Oh, and my WMA VBR has gotten off to a good start. The first track stopped half way through (which looks a lot like bug #2938). -- shawkie shawkie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Thousands of us are running the server successfully without hiccups. I actually run a box over wireless without any issues. Since you are running the Windows version of Slimserver it might be helpful for you to start by disabling all other applications on the box including network firewall, virus scanners, etc. See if a process is spiking at the times you are getting the audio dropouts. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
I've never heard of problems with a cabled connection, but if the data's not arriving at the SB (which it isn't) then it mustn't be being sent. I'd agree with jmpage - you must have something eating up cpu or bandwidth at the server end. What does task manager look like? What are your server specs? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
