[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
I'm running the latest 6.3.1 on Linux. Still broken. I haven't had this working since I retired my old server 18 months ago. That was running on an ancient version that honoured operating system specification of hidden files (dot prefix) and the database would not index cue-sheeted mp3 files that were named with a dot prefix. Is there any chance we can go back to simple funcitonality like that? It worked. It was simple. It was logical. What business might SlimServer possibly have indexing hidden files? For me, this is all to do with gapless playback. The only reason i have any cue sheets is to get gapless. I now have a legacy of very high quality mp3 rips (Lame preset extreme/EAC) with cuesheets. The answer is the difference between retranscoding and a feature that should either work or at least show stable behaviour from version to version. It strikes me that the development hasn't pinned down exactly what certain functions are for. FWIW, 6.3.1 does play my cuesheet files; it does honour symlinks in my mp3 library. This is a good build. I'm just petrified that the next build will break these things. -- Mr SA Mr SA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
Thanks KDF, hopefully by 6.3.1 my complete library will be working. Looking at the responce to the bug report i filed, i would seem that it is indeed being taken seriously now. My apoligies if i seemed a little 'off' in my previous posts in this thread. I am glad you realise this is just due to my frustration at not being able to use some of my library. Furthermore, i understand that us CUE fans are in a minority and understand why this is. Very few products support them, in fact i can't name a single one. Thats probably another reason people must wonder what all the fuss is about. For that i am very gratful to Slim Devices for leading the way with there excellent format support and forward thinking. Once CUE support is fixed and OGG decoding is implemented in the firmware, i think that the SB3/SS will be the most near perfect product i have ever owned. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
I have always been very disapointed with CUE support. It's a real shame because i think CUE+Image is the best way to archive CD's and any format can be used. But most importantly, it's also the best way to ensure perfect gapless playback, which much of my collection requires. To be honest, i never bother with it anymore because it's always been so poor. The problem is that i have a few older rips that are MP3 at a fairly low bitrate (before i knew any better). The original CD's are very old and are either lost or damaged. I could split the image into tracks, but to ensure perfect gapless playback i would need to transcode to someting like OGG. This would reduce the quality. Nobody who works on SS really seems to take it seriously, as far as i can tell, and are quite happy to leave it broken in official releases. I do find this a little odd. Personally it should either be fixed or completely disabled. It's listed as a feature and is therefore a selling point, so it should be working or they are misleading people. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
On 10-Jul-06, at 4:51 AM, dangerous_dom wrote: Nobody who works on SS really seems to take it seriously, as far as i can tell, and are quite happy to leave it broken in official releases. sorryhave to cry bs here. every effort is made by a lot of people. it is bloody painful to handle all of the formats, and some get broken. It is painful to have to handle all of the broken CUE's that get reported as breaking slimserver and someone does fix them. Claiming it isn't taken seriously is just crap. sorry, I know that doesn't fix the problem, but report the bug and we'll work on it. -k ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
kdf Wrote: sorryhave to cry bs here. every effort is made by a lot of people. it is bloody painful to handle all of the formats, and some get broken. It is painful to have to handle all of the broken CUE's that get reported as breaking slimserver and someone does fix them. Claiming it isn't taken seriously is just crap. sorry, I know that doesn't fix the problem, but report the bug and we'll work on it. -k Sorry kdf, i know you and everyone else involved do work very hard. And for that i am very grateful for all your efforts in making this great product so good. There are aspects of SS people obviously take very seriously, but i can't help but feel CUE support is very low down the list. Maybe there are good reasons for this, such as not many people use CUE's (but looking in the tagging/ripping forum it seems more and more people are interested in it). The reason i think this is the case, is that when i got my SB3 and downloaded SS for the first time, CUE sheet support was completely broken. Could not play my albums ripped in this way at all. The next official release also had problems. After that the next releace (6.2.2, which i have had to go back to now) would play them, but wont display thier album art. Now this in 6.3.0. So basicallly, every official release (i have tried anyway) has had some kind of CUE related bug. With that, and the slow and limited responce to this thread and bug report, does make think that much less effort is put made regarding CUE's. I have tried a few Beta's, but they had other issues that prevented me from using them. The last 6.5 beta was even worse. And can i just say that the Squeezebox 3 is simply awesome and that i am really greatful for peoples, such as kdf, efforts. Thanks. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
Quoting dangerous_dom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are aspects of SS people obviously take very seriously, but i can't help but feel CUE support is very low down the list. Maybe there are good reasons for this, such as not many people use CUE's (but looking in the tagging/ripping forum it seems more and more people are interested in it). I'd suggest that the reasons are much simpler. Those who work on slimserver, paid and unpaid, probably have their own music in other formats. For me, I can't see point of a CUE sheet-based system. If I want to move tracks to another location, work computer or music player, I want to move single tracks, not whole albums. I ripped these from CD and have no intent to burn back to cd as I have the CD's all packed away in sleeves in case I ever need them. On many occasions, I've created samples and worked out a few bugs in order to help. I've found along the way that the right way for CUE sheets still seems to allow for a great deal of variation. Somewhere along the way, slimserver seems to have also picked up non-standard features that were requested. I don't think that anyone deliberately puts CUE sheets into a ghetto, nor is any other format. Their complexity makes them a bit more time consuming, and it is often harder to get examples of problems becuase the files are so large. Priority becomes far less of a factor than the complexity of the problem itself. CUE sheets get fixed only after hours of effort, and the result is works for me, thanks from one user and 10 new ones saying my CUE sheet is broken. Add in the continual dictation as to HOW cue sheets should be handled and appear, well...that just makes me want to avoid it altogether. At least with single files, there is no question: parse the tags and list them. Cue sheets: do you show the whole file, or not. Does the cue sheet metadata override tags or not or both? Ask a number of users and you might get lucky with a consensus. However, once implemented, the other camps will then appear fuming about how their setups used to work and are now broken. Unfortunately, it isn't policy on slimserver to simply say 'no' when it comes to making changes for the latest and loudest request. I know this does less than nothing to help you solve your issue. I can certainly understand the frustration of having your library in a non-working state. Believe me, being a developer doesn't mean that you get the server wokgin just the way you want either. However, my hope is that by outlining at least my take on the issues, that you and others who come across this may understand that it isn't any deliberate sleight against CUE sheets, that it most certainly is a priority to get all supported formats working and parsed correctly. my current plan is to try and look at 6.3 parsing during lunch, just to see if it is an obvious problem. I just have to hope the download to my work computer can complete before lunchtime. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
Dominic, I posted a comment on your bug. I have the same issue and it's starting to be quite anoying. I had been recomending SB for a lot of people but I'm starting to give up. The SlimServer is growing bigger and bigger but basic functions like PROPER CUE support still a BIG PROBLEM. It seem that there is no QA at all. One single word to describe SlimServer. disappointing -- trixpan trixpan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.3.0 and CUE Sheets / Images
Anyone? Oh well, i have submitted a bug for this - http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3716 Cheers. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
