Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin O. Lepard

On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 08:40 -0700, Michaelwagner wrote:


The idea of adding more hardware to a squeezebox comes up all the
time. The two most requested things are

  (a) add an amplifier (the squeezebox boombox) and

 (b) add a server


(c) and a pony.


They've already shipped ponies, so you can cross that one off your list. ;-)

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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-11 Thread Michaelwagner

marc1966 Wrote: 
 Sorry for thinking out of the box.

Actually, you were thinking inside the box.

marc1966 Wrote: 
 Sorry for acting like a kicked puppy. But look at the replies and you'll
 see that this is no discussion. Just making fun on me. Maybe it is my
 bad english? What the hell... Bye.

Your English is fine. By the way, there is also a forum for German
speakers if you think your English is a problem. But at least this time
your English was fine.

The idea of adding more hardware to a squeezebox comes up all the time.
The two most requested things are 
(a) add an amplifier (the squeezebox boombox) and 
(b) add a server

Those are strategic directions not perhaps best addressed in this
forum. 

What would be really cool would be matching form factors and stacking,
so that you could buy the squeezebox server and sit it right underneath
a squeezebox and they'd match and look like they belong together. 

The problem is, both the squeezebox server and the squeezebox amplifier
would be bigger than the squeezebox. ... oh, well.

Michael


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Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-11 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 08:40 -0700, Michaelwagner wrote:
 The idea of adding more hardware to a squeezebox comes up all the time.
 The two most requested things are 
 (a) add an amplifier (the squeezebox boombox) and 
 (b) add a server
 

 The problem is, both the squeezebox server and the squeezebox amplifier
 would be bigger than the squeezebox. ... oh, well.

More importantly, the point of slim devices is to have small, slim
boxes that do a few things well.

Once you start adding amplifiers and servers and speakers,
you would have to change the name of the company to FatDevices
or even ObeseDevices. And getting the stickers off of Sean's
Mercedes would be hard.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-05 Thread stuorguk

Milhouse Wrote: 
 
 
 Building a low cost, quiet PC is not a big deal these days and try
 'SlimCD' (http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=763kategorie=slim)
 if you want minimum hassle.
 
 

Alternatively, pick up an old Pentium computer, and use that.  My old
dual celeron server pulled on average just 56 watts, and that was with
4 hard drives installed.  So a single processor, with one HD should be
a lot less!  Couple that with Wake-On-Lan, and the yearly power
consumption will be very low.

I'm now using an old dual PIII (2x1Ghz) linux box, with RAID1, and it
uses 1.77Kw a day.  Don't assume a computer with a 300w PSU is going to
draw anything like that.

S.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-04 Thread marc1966

Hello,

I think the more easier it is to run a squeezebox at home, the more
squeezeboxes could be sold. Which home user without knowledge of server
technologies wants to run a real hardware server? It is expensive,
(often) loud, unhandy and full of risks. But the use of those music
devices must be comfortable and worth the money.

Yesterday I thought about running a server like a Mac Mini all over the
year, just to have a comfortable access on my music everywhere in my
home. The costs for power would be about 150.- Euros minimum per
year!!! A simple networkdrive would be much cheaper in purchase and in
running costs.

Don't get me wrong! I don't want you to kill the server-mode as it is
running at the moment! But I think for a lot of people it would be a
great thing running squeezeboxes without a real server.

I hope you can understand my broken english ;-)

Marc


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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-04 Thread Milhouse

I'm about to submit an enhancement request to have SlimServer support my
two-slot toaster.

Come on guys, there's a limit to what is and what is not supported by
SlimServer, surely? The fact that NSLU2-type devices are capable of
running SlimServer is great, but SlimServer is designed to run on kit
with a minimum level of horsepower - something like a Pentium/2 with
128Mb RAM - and expecting SlimServer to run on the Squeezebox itself is
pretty unrealistic.

Building a low cost, quiet PC is not a big deal these days and try
'SlimCD' (http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=763kategorie=slim)
if you want minimum hassle.

I don't want future SlimServer functionality to be curtailed because
SlimDevices are attempting to support devices with only slightly more
computing capacity than a pocket calculator. Just because it can,
doesn't mean it should.

:)


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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-04 Thread marc1966

Sorry for thinking out of the box.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-03 Thread Kevin O. Lepard

In my opinion the Squeezebox should be able to access those drives by
smb or enabled Windows network drives. That would be the easiest way.
Do you agree?


No.  Not even a little.

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Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver inside Squeezebox?

2005-09-03 Thread Jacob Potter
On 9/3/05, jth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It might be the easiest way for Windows users, but not necessarily
 the easiest way for other operating systems.
 
 Each product from Slim Devices has gotten increasingly
 sophisticated on the inside - I'm sure the possibility
 of running slimserver on the squeezebox has crossed their
 minds. It should also reduce development and support costs
 for slimserver to have only one supported platform. I'm happy
 as long as I can play music. :-)

Not just lower development and support costs, but fewer units shipped
would result in a drop in manufacturing and shipping expesnses as
well. A win all around, no? :)

- Jacob
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