RE: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Jim,
Quite well said. Following this list has shown me that Slim is one of the most
customer focused and responsive technology companies I have ever seen.
As for "Plays for Sure", it seems that it will play for sure in any device that
accepts all of the DRM provisions that MS wants to impose--Forgive me if I'm a
little cautious about asking SLIM to make the SB compliant with "Plays for
Sure" DRM without knowing all of the small print involved.
Mike
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From: JimB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Just my two cents but I think everyone needs to take a time out.
How many consumer electronic products do you own that the CTO of the
company that makes the product actually acknowledges your posts (rants)
and comments with careful support?
My experience so far has been great. The features that we need will be
there in time. If you are really unhappy, go buy a prismiq and then you
may see what pain really is.
--
JimB
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[slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Just my two cents but I think everyone needs to take a time out. How many consumer electronic products do you own that the CTO of the company that makes the product actually acknowledges your posts (rants) and comments with careful support? My experience so far has been great. The features that we need will be there in time. If you are really unhappy, go buy a prismiq and then you may see what pain really is. -- JimB ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Quoting Aaron Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I guess I have my own opinion of who should be getting abused right now. > > I don't entirely understand what you meant by this statement but I hope you > didn't take any offense at my comment. none at all. I'm just suggesting that the problem as I see it is not as much a lack of realSlim progress as is it Rhapsody being so closed off. Even if I could fake being in the US and were to manage to elevate myself to the level of being able to understand Vidur's code, and fix realSlim, I'd expect I would then face a release of version 4 of Rhapsody which would break everything, forcing another cycle of reverse engineering. Some postings are askig why such a low priority, why is there no support or interest. Well, I should hope that these same people are knocking on Rhapsody's door asking the same questions. The saddest part of this whole thing is that I feel I can expect that this is not the case. If for no other reason than the fact that I believe most people already realise that the vast majority of companies are simply not responsive on the level of Slim Devices. As much as Slim may be missing sales due to lack of Rhapsody support, Rhapsody is missing out on customers from around the world by being US only, and missing out on fee from loyal slimserver users. But, maybe they dont care. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
> I guess I have my own opinion of who should be getting abused right now. I don't entirely understand what you meant by this statement but I hope you didn't take any offense at my comment. I only meant to acknowledge you and the sentiments that you've already repeatedly expressed about the status of RealSlim--to indicate that I understand that we all need to pitch in if we can to provide the functionality that we each desire. Your knowledge and hard work have certainly done this community an enormous service, the benefits of which I believe we've all reaped. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Quoting Aaron Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I know, I know, KDF, RealSlim's only waiting for someone to give it some TLC > :). I had intended to try to take part as well (depite not being a windows user)...but as a Canadian, Rhapsody is totally useless to me since I'm barred from using the service :) I guess I have my own opinion of who should be getting abused right now. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
> I know just what is going to happen...the day after I buy a Roku, Slim > is going to announce Rhaposody support!! :-) Yeah...and there's another bit of irony that actually keeps me with the squeezebox: when using RealSlim my Squeezebox actually has more "complete" Rhapsody support than any other device on the market. No other device has the ability to search and browse the entire Rhapsody catalog from the player. I love this as it allows me to drag up any song at any moment. I hope that, even if Plays For Sure support is added, that the RealSlim program is updated to allow me to interface with the Rhapsody library directly. I know, I know, KDF, RealSlim's only waiting for someone to give it some TLC :). But as I'm not qualified/able to do this, I just wanted to express this point because, for me, RealSlim in many ways meets my needs better than Plays For Sure support would. I do realize, however, that this is not the case for users of the other subscription services. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
I am kind of caught between a rock and a hard place. I'd like to wait for Slim to support PlayForSure...and I can still use the old version of Rhapsody. But I really want the to-go...I want to try out new music when I am out walking and in my car. If I upgrade Rhapsody I can no longer use Slim. I know just what is going to happen...the day after I buy a Roku, Slim is going to announce Rhaposody support!! :-) -- markmun ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Or how about people who want PFS pay $20 or something for a "compatibility pack" which includes a SlimServer plugin and a special firmware update. There's no reason anyone should have to pay for stuff they don't need if everything is nice and modular. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Chop wrote: > So is this the issue then - that Play For Sure formats are not supported > across different OS's? > Not necessarily. It might be feasible for an SB2 to connect to Slimserver and/or Widows Media Services, and perhaps even switch between them on-the-fly. In theory, such a design would not impact non-Windows people (such as myself). From what Sean has stated, the new SB2 hardware was designed to be very flexible, so we'll see. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
Thanks SeanI'll take that at face value, and remain confident that you guys know what you are doing, and how to satisfy the masses. Thanks for a great product, and awesome support. I look forward to the future. Now, if someone could just ensure that Kawartha TV gets a few wired units, I'd be happy to throw some $$$ down for an SB2. Danny Rego So is this the issue then - that Play For Sure formats are not supported across different OS's? Sort of - certain DRM features require a Windows PC communicating by UPNP. Btw, I started a different thread to narrow the focus. I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just really curious as to why Slim isn't supporting these services? As you know Squeezebox2's new design incorporates a very fast processor which allows us to implement any new audio decoding or encryption schemes we want. Feel free to take that as an indication that FLAC is just the first, and that others are under consideration and/or in development. Specifically what else we'll support and when we'll support it is yet to be announced. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
On May 17, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Chop wrote: So is this the issue then - that Play For Sure formats are not supported across different OS's? Sort of - certain DRM features require a Windows PC communicating by UPNP. Btw, I started a different thread to narrow the focus. I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just really curious as to why Slim isn't supporting these services? As you know Squeezebox2's new design incorporates a very fast processor which allows us to implement any new audio decoding or encryption schemes we want. Feel free to take that as an indication that FLAC is just the first, and that others are under consideration and/or in development. Specifically what else we'll support and when we'll support it is yet to be announced. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
So is this the issue then - that Play For Sure formats are not supported across different OS's? Btw, I started a different thread to narrow the focus. I'm not trying to be harsh. I'm just really curious as to why Slim isn't supporting these services? -- Chop ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why Can't Slim support Play For Sure???
No need to create a new thread on the subject, it's not going to make the idea of implementing this feature carry more weight - and is only going to annoy us users who couldn't give a. -- Jim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
