[slim] Re: Wireless works!
JJZolx Wrote: > Wireless works absolutely perfectly for me with both of my SB2s and also > worked with my SB1. Recently while setting up the newer SB2, I had an > error in the WPA key. That's where the confusion was. The lack of an > error message had me fiddling with the DHCP server and looking > elsewhere for a problem. I don't know the layers of 802.11g well enough to know if this is actually the case (though it would make sense). If there is no, "Yes, that's the key, thanks have a nice day" sort of mechanism, the Squeezebox (or any other wireless client) has no way of knowing whether it got the key right at all. It's not like a wired lan where there's a carrier signal that can be verified... it's "Okay, I sent a DHCP request, encrypted with the key you gave me, but I didn't get a response..." Which could mean either the key was bad (and the router spit it out because it couldn't decrypt it) or that the DHCP server is down. It's 1:30am here, so don't know if that explanation is clear... It's my bet (someone with more details on 802.11g may be able to confirm or deny this theory) that the protocols just don't allow a real "yes, I'm on the net, but with the wrong key" sort of error. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
Wireless seems to be very dependent upon the router brand. I had nothing but problems with SMC and am doing much better with D-Link. Check the router status page in the wiki for which ones seem to do better than others. -- stoobie-doo stoobie-doo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2192 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
Michaelwagner Wrote: > Hmm...I have not played enough with wireless - I am actually one of > these fools who likes wired access - fewer problems. Wireless works absolutely perfectly for me with both of my SB2s and also worked with my SB1. Recently while setting up the newer SB2, I had an error in the WPA key. That's where the confusion was. The lack of an error message had me fiddling with the DHCP server and looking elsewhere for a problem. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
JJZolx Wrote: > On my network I've found that the only time a Squeezebox could _not_ get > an IP address from the DHCP server was when the device couldn't even > connect to the wireless access point. But the firmware is too dumb to > give a proper message at that point Hmm...I have not played enough with wireless - I am actually one of these fools who likes wired access - fewer problems. I live in an apartment building complex of 3 buildings, across the street from a community college. I assume that, between the apartment buildings and the college, there's enough energy being flung around in the 2.4GHz range to defrost hamburgers without a microwave. Maybe pop corn without Dean's popcorn button. On a wired SB (1 or 3), if it can't find an ethernet connection, it clearly says so. I would have thought it does the same with wireless, but I guess I shouldn't assume. I actually *do* have one wireless SB1 (which I don't use wireless) but I guess I could crank it up and see if it survives the cross-traffic and boots up wireless. Not that anyone is going to go back and fix an SB1 now ... Who knows? Maybe I don't need to be paying $50 a month for my cable modem ... -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
dennobundy Wrote: > yes this would be a good idea ! i also was searching for a error when my > sb3 couldnt connect to network .. later i saw that he dont get a ip ... > an error message would be better ! On my network I've found that the only time a Squeezebox could _not_ get an IP address from the DHCP server was when the device couldn't even connect to the wireless access point. But the firmware is too dumb to give a proper message at that point and goes on to trying to contact the DHCP server even without a network connection. This needs to be fixed first. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
yes this would be a good idea ! i also was searching for a error when my sb3 couldnt connect to network .. later i saw that he dont get a ip ... an error message would be better ! -- dennobundy dennobundy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1731 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wireless works!
Hi Rick's Cafe (cute name, by the way)! You wrote: rick's cafe Wrote: > Prior to this, my Slim 3 was getting a bulsh%t IP from my network > (169.XXX.XXX.XXX) and wouldn't connect to my slimserver. For your better understanding, and others here too, 169.anything is a "special" address. When asking DHCP for an address, if that's the address you "get", it means your network interface was unable to reach the DHCP server and didn't get any address. Pretty obscure, I know. I wonder if the SB could be modified to put out an error message in this case (something like "unable to reach DHCP server") rather than just blindly going on hoping the user knows about magic IP addresses. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19465 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
