Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
JJZolx;321187 Wrote: > No, I don't. It looks like the discussion in this bug report may be > relevant: > > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5637 Thanks Jim! Yes that seems to be something similar for sure. Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Zevs;321182 Wrote: > ..by the way Jim do you use MusicIP integration with SC ? When looking > at the times reported for the scanning, it seems it is clearly the > MusicIP database that takes 95 % of the scanning time. No, I don't. It looks like the discussion in this bug report may be relevant: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5637 -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
JJZolx;321179 Wrote: > > It may be the external drive that's killing you. Is it either USB or > Firewire 400? If so, internal drives would probably make scanning a > lot faster. Another option, though, is an external drive with an eSATA > interface, which can be just as fast as an internal. ..by the way Jim do you use MusicIP integration with SC ? When looking at the times reported for the scanning, it seems it is clearly the MusicIP database that takes 95 % of the scanning time. Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
JJZolx;321179 Wrote: > There are two scanning options (plus the playlist only scan): > > - Look for new and changed music > - Clear library and rescan everything > > The first is the "new & changed" scan. The second one starts all over > from scratch and takes a lot longer. > > Yes and the first option anyhow looks through my whole database it seems in order to find what has changed, I would therefore add one more option to your list: - Scan for a specific folder and then have simple button or something opening up a regular folder/file selection box ... and I guess as you say it could be the external hard drive (USB) that makes it take so long time I guess. But I don't see the logic in that the whole music database needs to be scanned if I have just added one single album, seems overkill if I instead can just tell SC which files I have added. Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Zevs;321172 Wrote: > What do you mean with the "new & changed" scanning ? I'm using > SqueezeCenter 7.1 and have ~54 000 tracks on an external harddrive. A > regular scanning update of this takes up to 2 hours (depending on what > else I'm doing on the computer, Windows Vista), and this I have to wait > for even if I just have added one single album... or am I missing > something.. ? There are two scanning options (plus the playlist only scan): - Look for new and changed music - Clear library and rescan everything The first is the "new & changed" scan. The second one starts all over from scratch and takes a lot longer. It may be the external drive that's killing you. Is it either USB or Firewire 400? If so, internal drives would probably make scanning a lot faster. Another option, though, is an external drive with an eSATA interface, which can be just as fast as an internal. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
JJZolx;321170 Wrote: > I find the new & changed scanning to be quite fast. On my old P4 > Windows server a full scan of 21,000 Flac files takes about 26 minutes. > A new & changed scan takes only 2:20. > > Your idea has been suggested before and even accepted by many people as > a good idea. Something like: you browse through the music folder within > the SqueezeCenter web interface, get to a junction in the directory > tree, and press a button that says "scan for new & changed music". > Unfortunately, this simple approach would be a little bit > philosophically opposed to the current idea that browsing through the > library should do this automagically. Hi Jim, thanks for the response! What do you mean with the "new & changed" scanning ? I'm using SqueezeCenter 7.1 and have ~54 000 tracks on an external harddrive. A regular scanning update of this takes up to 2 hours (depending on what else I'm doing on the computer, Windows Vista), and this I have to wait for even if I just have added one single album... or am I missing something.. ? The browsing part does not scan for MusicIP fingerprint info though, and that is what I think would be useful, to have all the info from tags, cover and MIP in one single rapid scan. Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
I find the new & changed scanning to be quite fast. On my old P4 Windows server a full scan of 21,000 Flac files takes about 26 minutes. A new & changed scan takes only 2:20. Your idea has been suggested before and even accepted by many people as a good idea. Something like: you browse through the music folder within the SqueezeCenter web interface, get to a junction in the directory tree, and press a button that says "scan for new & changed music". Unfortunately, this simple approach would be a little bit philosophically opposed to the current idea that browsing through the library should do this automagically. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Zevs;320969 Wrote: > Thanks Michael for the response, so you won't get the mixer info even if > you in MIP has set it to always write the music fingerprint directly > into the tags ? > > Zevs ...and if you won't I guess I'm back to my original question and proposal, i.e. that it would be great to have scanning a specified folder as an additional option to the other ones already available. A scanning that retrieves tags, covers and MIP data ... Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
mherger;320819 Wrote: > > Hi, I was looking for the same thing. > > Isn't this the same as Browse Music Folder to the new album? It's then > > added to the library. > > Michael Thanks, I didn't know about that..that is better :) -- rmckay rmckay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18830 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
mherger;320906 Wrote: > > But do you really get the tags and the covers and the MusicIP info > > embedded in the files read by doing that? I thought not, but perhaps > > I'm wrong ? > > I'm sorry, no. Just the tags. MIP should be updated in regular > intervals (as defined in SC's MIP settings). > > -- > > Michael Thanks Michael for the response, so you won't get the mixer info even if you in MIP has set it to always write the music fingerprint directly into the tags ? Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Zevs;320892 Wrote: > Hi Michael! > > But do you really get the tags and the covers and the MusicIP info > embedded in the files read by doing that? I thought not, but perhaps > I'm wrong ? > > Zevs Yes, you do. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
> But do you really get the tags and the covers and the MusicIP info > embedded in the files read by doing that? I thought not, but perhaps > I'm wrong ? I'm sorry, no. Just the tags. MIP should be updated in regular intervals (as defined in SC's MIP settings). -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
mherger;320819 Wrote: > > Hi, I was looking for the same thing. > > Isn't this the same as Browse Music Folder to the new album? It's then > > added to the library. > > Michael Hi Michael! But do you really get the tags and the covers and the MusicIP info embedded in the files read by doing that? I thought not, but perhaps I'm wrong ? Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
> Hi, I was looking for the same thing. Isn't this the same as Browse Music Folder to the new album? It's then added to the library. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
rmckay;320759 Wrote: > Hi, I was looking for the same thing. I have the same problem with a > huge library that takes forever to rescan just to add one new album. > I'm running the server on a linux box and noticed another file in the > same directory as the server: > /usr/libexec/squeezecenter-scanner > After a quick look at the source code, I tried the following: > > sudo -u squeezecenter /usr/libexec/squeezecenter-scanner > /music_library/new_album > > It worked! The new album was added in a few seconds instead of many > minutes through the web interface full library scan. > Cheers, > Ryan Thanks for the tip Ryan! Do you get also the covers and any MusicIP info and all tags by doing this ? If so does anyone know if this works also under Windows? How would the command then look? I assume one would then do this using the run command or a command box then? Haven't had time to test yet, but will do. Even if this works, I still think it would be great to have this option directly in the SqueezeCenter web page as one predefined way of scanning your music collection, i.e. by user selected folder. Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Hi, I was looking for the same thing. I have the same problem with a huge library that takes forever to rescan just to add one new album. I'm running the server on a linux box and noticed another file in the same directory as the server: /usr/libexec/squeezecenter-scanner After a quick look at the source code, I tried the following: sudo -u squeezecenter /usr/libexec/squeezecenter-scanner /music_library/new_album It worked! The new album was added in a few seconds instead of many minutes through the web interface full library scan. Cheers, Ryan -- rmckay rmckay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18830 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Brilliant Idea. -- ewreck ewreck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Scanning doe new or updated music--
Hi! Why isn't it possible as an aoption to specify a directory to scan when one one wants to update ones's music database. As it is now we have the options of deleting all and rescan all or look for new or changed music in the full database. Both these options take loads of time if you have a large database. Wouldn't it be possible to add one more option, which which would allow you to just select a specific folder and have that scanned, retrieveing all tags, album covers and MusicIP info? It would be so much simpler and one wouldn't have to wait a couple of hours every time one has added an album! Zevs -- Zevs Zevs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6890 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
