Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-23 Thread gnnash

Thanks for the information. I'll have to check on the status of the
Radio Shark and Windows 7. I've heard that they weren't compatible.

With the InstantFM adapter, were you able to get any sort of RDS
feedback to the squeezebox? I was looking at that adapter as well, but
mainly for the RDS capability, and the lower price.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-23 Thread bpa

I can't see why RadioShark plugin won't work with W7.  The audio stream
appears as a standard USB audio stream so as long as W7 support the USB
standard it is OK.  Tuning  LED control is done with custom s/w which I
ported from Linux and the interface used is standard USB stuff.

The Silabs unit would get the RDS info - just the software module to
tune and return the RDS info was unreliable and I didn't see much point
in spending time trying to get it to work.  I was using the code from
here
http://code.google.com/p/silabsradiodll/


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-23 Thread gnnash

Alright. Do you have any WIP plugins from when you were tinkering with
this? I don't have a clue how to get the RDS info from this code into
the stream for the SB.

Looks like I will likely end up going for the Radio Shark, though RDS
would be awesome. I've seen this page
https://www.lafargue.name/article2773.html on how to get the RDS info
into the stream in linux, but no information on how to do it in Windows.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-23 Thread bpa

gnnash;527445 Wrote: 
 Alright. Do you have any WIP plugins from when you were tinkering with
 this? I don't have a clue how to get the RDS info from this code into
 the stream for the SB.
 
 Looks like I will likely end up going for the Radio Shark, though RDS
 would be awesome. I've seen this page
 https://www.lafargue.name/article2773.html on how to get the RDS info
 into the stream in linux, but no information on how to do it in Windows.

I couldn't get the code as-is to work reliably - to make it work with
SBS would require a lot of new code which I never started because I had
no confidence in it.

I think awesome might be overstating it - most of the time RDS info
is the station name which can be defined within SBS.  I found very very
few stations provide info (e.g. track/artist) which changes.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-23 Thread gnnash

Nearly all of my stations (in the US) do have live track/artist
information via RDS, which would have been nice to see.  However, it
looks like the Radio Shark will be my best bet. It will certainly be no
worse than the radio I've been using for years!

Thanks for the info, and your plugin. I'm sure I'll be putting it to
good use!


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[slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread gnnash

Well, I'm pretty sick of my local radio stations' low-bitrate online
radio streams.  I love my Boom for pandora and my own music, but don't
want a separate radio as well when I could just have one device!

So I will be purchasing a radio tuner for my PC, and streaming from
that to my squeezebox. I've seen information on how to do this, but I
was wondering if there is a way to re-tune my tuner from the squeezebox
itself. Perhaps the squeezebox will point to a different stream file on
my PC, and some sort of software will recognize this and re-tune my
tuner to a different station.

Does anyone know of anything that could do this? I'm tired of listening
to highly compressed radio with a 20+ second delay from live.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread bpa

I have a plugin for a Griffin RadioShark (
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/radioshark2 ) which supports
tuning.  It only supports Windows and Linux - not OSX.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread gnnash

This sounds very nice.  Are the preset buttons able to be set to the
stations?


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread bpa

Tuning is done by defining an url with shark:// prefix so that

shark://98.1 - will tune to 98.1MHz FM
shark://2400  - will tune to 2400kHz AM.

Usually save a few shark:// URLs of known stations as favorites and
then you can use them as you like for example in alarms or presets.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread gnnash

Sounds excellent.  However, I've heard some bad things about radio
sharks and reception quality.  What are your experiences? I'll be using
this in a metropolitan area, with some pretty noisy radio reception in
the first place unless I use an external antenna.


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Re: [slim] Stream from Radio Tuner on PC

2010-03-22 Thread bpa

I found it works OK for me but we don't have lots of stations but I
don't use an external antenna with it. I mainly use for wakeup alarm
audio stream as using the internet stream of the station was not
reliable for a variety of reasons.  

I think the RadioShark is of similar quality as a FM radio of about
twice the price in Ireland - a HiFi tuner it is not. An external antenna
can be used with the RadioShark and you can use a v. long USB cable so
that it can be positioned for best reception away from PC and other
sources of interference/shielding. 

SBS takes a PCM stream from the RadioShark and streams it as Flac and
at a guess the audio quality is probably about the same as a 128kbit/s
MP3 but I cannot be sure as local FM stations all have low speed
internet streams.

Not sure what you mean by noisy reception - is it weak/distant signal
or adjacent stations or something else ?

I have also tried TV/FM tuner cards which were terrible unless a big
external antenna was attached (and even then they had 32Khz PCM stream).
and an ADS InstantFM usb adapter (Silabs chipset) which has RDS.  The
Griffin was most reliable as the software to drive the Silabs based
units didn't worked all the time.

FM adaptors are now hard to find as digital radio becomes prevalent.


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