Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Moved my LMS from a Pi to a Headless Windows Server and freaked out when Volume Sync whacked out on me. Updated to 7.9.3 and all is right with the world. For those curious about my setup: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111640-My-Whole-House-Audio-Setup=964053=1#post964053 RPi3B - LMS Server 2x RPi3 Players with HiFiBerry DAC+ RCA 1X RPi3B HDMI to Surround Receiver 1x RPiZeroW with HiFiBerry MiniAmp micmed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67919 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Sorry this took so long, but I don't update my Logitech service much these days as it is a bedrock of my listening pleasure! Have installed the 16/11/18 version of 7.9.2, fiddled with the volume on the synced and non-synced players. Neither group affected the other. All seems right with the world! I'm amazed that this got addressed at all, let alone that it was done so quickly and efficiently. Many thanks. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
InTheBath wrote: > I'd like to help. > I'll have to install the latest build, I guess. > > I looked here: > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9 > but couldn't see a relevant comment in the changelog. Is that the right > place?Look at the Git Commit Log instead. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
I'd like to help. I'll have to install the latest build, I guess. I looked here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9 but couldn't see a relevant comment in the changelog. Is that the right place? InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
InTheBath wrote: > Bug 18165 raised. > > Thanks for your help everyone. Michael just told me that he merged the change, so if you can help verifying in the coming days, that would be great! LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Thanks! I'll try to review Philippes pull request asap. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Mnyb wrote: > Thats a bug for sure if you change the volume of a player with unsynced > volume it should not propagate to any other player I tend to agree but there was already a comment in the code for a related sync volume bug correction (#10310) so I was surprised that this other issue was not taken into account. LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
InTheBath wrote: > Thanks Phillipe. > > If I'm reading your message correctly, number 1 possibly sounds like an > enhancement. Number 2 though, I'd be surprised if anybody called less > than a bug. Player has an attribute of "don't sync volume", changing > volume of that player changes volume of other players. It is at least > partially synced, surely. > > Thanks again for looking at this, > > Mark. Thats a bug for sure if you change the volume of a player with unsynced volume it should not propagate to any other player Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Thanks Phillipe. If I'm reading your message correctly, number 1 possibly sounds like an enhancement. Number 2 though, I'd be surprised if anybody called less than a bug. Player has an attribute of "don't sync volume", changing volume of that player changes volume of other players. It is at least partially synced, surely. Thanks again for looking at this, Mark. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
philippe_44 wrote: > But to do that you must present to the user an ´entity that represents > the group. It comes more ´naturally in iPengs UI as it does in my > group player plugin. Its not the case in LMS webUI Yes , ideally you could build a master volume slider . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Mnyb wrote: > And this is probably one reason the iPeng app has its own solution to > player volume when synced. > > IPeng has a group control , you dont sync the volume in LMS when your > an iPeng user . > > In iPeng you simply control the relative volume of all players or the > individual volume off one player thats it . > > The volume sync in LMS is to simple it makes all player have exactly the > same volume thats not really what you want. But to do that you must present to the user an ´entity that represents the group. It comes more ´naturally in iPengs UI as it does in my group player plugin. Its not the case in LMS webUI LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
And this is probably one reason the iPeng app has its own solution to player volume when synced. IPeng has a group control , you dont sync the volume in LMS when your an iPeng user . In iPeng you simply control the relative volume of all players or the individual volume off one player thats it . The volume sync in LMS is to simple it makes all player have exactly the same volume thats not really what you want. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
InTheBath wrote: > Bug 18165 raised. > > Thanks for your help everyone. I've submitted a patch proposal to Michael. Still, I'm not sure this is a bug vs a feature. Currently, what I saw in the code is 1- When a track starts, the group master's volume was used to set the volume of all players whose "sync volume" attribute is set. If I follow the logic that volume can only be shared accross players with the "sync volume" attribute set, then the sync master of the group may not be the right reference to use, if it does not have that attribute set for itself. So I take, as a reference volume, the volume of the first player which has this attribute set ... maybe there is something smarter to do there. 2- When volume of any player in the synchronization group was changed, that value was set for each player with the "sync volume" attribute. I now only do that if the player whose volume is changed has the "sync volume" attribute set for itself. We'll see what Michael thinks Philippe LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Bug 18165 raised. Thanks for your help everyone. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
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Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Thanks Jeff for helping with this. Certainly looks like a bug and I hope the text of this thread is enough to allow anybody to replicate it. Next question is how I report it. Never needed to do this before. Any help on this, anybody? M. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Unfortunately, seeing the same results that you are seeing - volume change on *ANY* player will cause all players with "sync volume" set to sync to its volume. In my test it was the Receiver in my bedroom that I left at "don't sync volume" and set the Boom and the Receivers in my living room and office to "sync volume". When I changed volume in the bedroom, all of the other players synced to it at the beginning of the next song. When I changed any of the other players, all of the players *except* the one in the bedroom synced volume. It doesn't appear that when "sync volume" is set on a player that LMS checks to see if the other player that changed volume has "sync volume" or "don't sync volume" set. Not sure how a change request/suggestion is made, however, it might be a useful change to have only players with "sync volume" set to affect other players with "sync volume" set and ignore when players with "don't sync volume" have volume changes. Any chance the Classic is connected to something that you can control the volume via remote or app? That way you could leave it at full volume in LMS and just use LMS to change the volume on the Boom and Duet. Somewhat a trade off between using another remote/app v readjusting the Boom and Duet volume when ever you change volume on the Classic via LMS "You know, I'm all for progress. It's change I object to." Mark Twain LMS 7.9 on Raspberry Pi3 w/200GB SD 5 Receivers, 1 Boom, 2 Radios, 1 Controller, 1 iPhone & 1 iPad w/iPeng, 1 Android phone w/Squeezer JeffHart's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23791 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
JeffHart wrote: > Just gave this a try - synced 3 Receivers and the Boom, set 2 Receivers > and Boom to sync volume, leaving 1 Receiver at dont sync volume. > > When I change the volume on any player, every player that is set to sync > volume does. If I change the volume on any player other than the one > set at dont sync, only the ones set to sync actually sync. Im running > 7.9.2, but if 7.9.1 works the same, you may need to readjust the volume > on the Duet and Boom anytime you change the volume on the Classic, but > the Classic wont change when you change the Duet and Boom. Thanks for doing this. I've read what you said carefully and have done some more investigation. When I adjust the volume on the Duet or Boom, they both change. The Classic doesn't change volume. That's as expected. When I adjust the volume on the Classic, all three players change volume. That doesn't sound right although, reading your message, it might not be the case you tried? If you still have the players set up, I'd love to hear what happens when you change the volume on the unsync'ed player. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
Just gave this a try - synced 3 Receivers and the Boom, set 2 Receivers and Boom to sync volume, leaving 1 Receiver at dont sync volume. When I change the volume on any player, every player that is set to sync volume does. If I change the volume on any player other than the one set at dont sync, only the ones set to sync actually sync. Im running 7.9.2, but if 7.9.1 works the same, you may need to readjust the volume on the Duet and Boom anytime you change the volume on the Classic, but the Classic wont change when you change the Duet and Boom. "You know, I'm all for progress. It's change I object to." Mark Twain LMS 7.9 on Raspberry Pi3 w/200GB SD 5 Receivers, 1 Boom, 2 Radios, 1 Controller, 1 iPhone & 1 iPad w/iPeng, 1 Android phone w/Squeezer JeffHart's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23791 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Syncing volume on some players but not others.
I have three players. A Duet and a Boom in one room and a Classic in the study. They are synced to all play the same and it works fine. However, I'd like to have the volume synced on the Duet and Boom but control the Classic separately. Is that even possible? It looks like it should be. Under the sync settings I have two of them set to "sync volume" and the Classic set to "don't sync volume". However (even after a restart of the service) the settings persist, but changing the volume on any of the players changes all three. Perhaps this isn't really a "by player" setting but is instead "by zone"? Looks like the former in the UI, but seems to work like the latter on my system. I'd appreciate any help (or somebody doing a test to see if they can achieve what I'm trying to do). I'm running Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1494667952 so if there's been a recent change in this area, then it may be fixed. I'm an infrequent upgrader of the server since my system is pretty rock solid at the moment and does everything I need (apart from the above!). M. InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
