Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
jaysung;271637 Wrote: > Hi, > what exactly does the linked photography show? Which components are > added? I can not see the photo. ;) > Br Jeronimo Hello, Use that link again, then scroll down until you see photos. What you will see is a picture of a ModWright Transporter with the top cover off. The inside of the ModWright Tansporter is full mainly because of the large trodial transformer, filter caps, and tube sockets. -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: Squeezebox 3, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Suprlite7;271338 Wrote: > The SB3 if double it's depth could have the same capability as the TP > I'm guessing. You could add a larger screen to boot and still have a > small form factor. I don't see a necessity for maintaining an old > standard. Computers used to come in the same size box but that's not > the case any more. I can not agree completely with the analogy to computers. True, consumer PCs have gotten smaller and so have commercial PCs, but even though the commercial PCs are smaller many still come in RU sizes (smaller then before, but still RU). Why is this? Because they meet a standard and are still rack mounted so they can be stacked vertically to use all available space and make them easier to service and interconnect. Taking a look at the major audio and video rack manufactures, their main product lines are still for 19-inch wide equipment and most have an offering for actual rack mounting. Most of my gear came with rack mount ears or has an option for rack mounting. The quoted post contains the main reason to keep the Transporter the width it currently is. The current size does conform to “the Standard”, which will probably be around as long as there are Class A power amps, tube gear, and A/V receivers. Besides the current size looks great with all my other gear in the media room. My SB3 looks out of place (but sounds great) on the Stand Design Rack in the living room with the rest of the 19-inch gear. I will be buying a Duet so I can hide the SBR in the living room system and use the SBC with it, the Transporter, and multi SB3s. -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: Squeezebox 3, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Hi, what exactly does the linked photography show? Which components are added? I can not see the photo. ;) Br Jeronimo -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Suprlite7;271627 Wrote: > argue that 90% of the internal volume is wasted space. Looks more like just under 50%. . -- haunyack Transporter -> B&K 200.2 -> Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Hopefully I can cut and paste the internal photo. No one could/should argue that 90% of the internal volume is wasted space. With the new Controller you could make this headless like the Duet, half the size (orient in the other direction) and it would be awesome. +---+ |Filename: Transporter Internal.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4356| +---+ -- Suprlite7 SB3-Bel Canto DAC3-Bel Canto Ref1000s-Gallo Reference 3.1 Suprlite7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
jaysung;271325 Wrote: > Hello, > Well, I agree. When opening the tp I was tempted to put something into > it just to fill the space ... > Here is what I thaught of: > - solid state hard disk and some unnecessary Slimserver overhead ;) > - Cd drive to rip or directly play music > - heavy duty copper shielding for the different components to > electrically isolate them and to be more convincing for such audio- and > electrofools as I am > > Anyway the tp is not HEAVY enough Zarnash (have to pay the cables still > ) says heavy equippment sounds better because of less mechanic > vibration. ;)) He argues that electric parts in motion generate > magnetic fields or such. ;-P > And well I forgot we have to have a tube in it I don't know where but > it will sound substantially better if we put a tube believe it Harmony > has prooven it. ;) > > So what. Ain't the Tp a good unit of electronics? Here's one that's stuffed with LOTS of parts! http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=41197.100 scroll down for an amazing TP picture! -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Suprlite7;271288 Wrote: > I recommend the next Transporter be 1/2 its present size which could > easily be done without sacrificing any of the elements within. The Transporter was designed with audiophiles and the higher end market in mind. To that end, the device needs to be X inches wide and just as important rack mountable. Additionally and more important in my mind, the Transporter needs to be big enough to keep from being pulled off the shelf by the weight of all the heavy audiophile type cables I have plugged into the back! I know it is just my opinion, but the Transporter is about as small as it can be still satisfying the audiophile crowd. Please keep it the same or make it larger (more room for mods for people into that)! I would not want to come home to find my new smaller Transporter off its shelf and hanging by the interconnects behind all the other equipment! -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: Squeezebox 3, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Hrm, what are the dimensions of the TP's "empty space" I suppose you could fit a small embeded slimserver in there. Just need to add an external USB port to add an external CD drive for ripping/encoding. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
The SB3 if double it's depth could have the same capability as the TP I'm guessing. You could add a larger screen to boot and still have a small form factor. I don't see a necessity for maintaining an old standard. Computers used to come in the same size box but that's not the case any more. -- Suprlite7 SB3-Bel Canto DAC3-Bel Canto Ref1000s-Gallo Reference 3.1 Suprlite7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
The larger the screen the better for me, so I say keep the current form factor and make it even taller, with a bigger screen. -- riffer riffer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13459 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
Hello, Well, I agree. When opening the tp I was tempted to put something into it just to fill the space ... Here is what I thaught of: - solid state hard disk and some unnecessary Slimserver overhead ;) - Cd drive to rip or directly play music - heavy duty copper shielding for the different components to electrically isolate them and to be more convincing for such audio- and electrofools as I am Anyway the tp is not HEAVY enough Zarnash (have to pay the cables still ) says heavy equippment sounds better because of less mechanic vibration. ;)) He argues that electric parts in motion generate magnetic fields or such. ;-P And well I forgot we have to have a tube in it I don't know where but it will sound substantially better if we put a tube believe it Harmony has prooven it. ;) So what. Ain't the Tp a good unit of electronics? -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter II form factor
The Transporter isn't an amp nor does it contain any high power amp circuits. It's job is to decode the music fed to it then feed that into an amp to feed the speakers. It was made to a standard rack mount width just to integrate better than the somewhat oddly shaped Squeezebox. I have test equipment here at work that is in a rack mount enclosure that is mostly dead space. It's just made to be rack mountable. -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.4 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter II form factor
I can see from photos in the Transporter system gallery that the Transporter looks more the part of an audiophile component than the SB3 or the Duet but I would like to offer a recomendation. I am a convert to Bel Canto's systems and love their sound and form factor. An under-the-hood inspection of the Transporter shows a lot of empty space that could be placed in a much smaller enclosure. Small is good. The Trends TA-10.1, Peter Daniel's Patek and the Might Mouse amp among others have busted the big is better paradigm in high end audio. Bel Canto's Reference 1000's are award winning amps and also half (or more!) the size of traditional amps. No longer do we need to have mass to have superior audio. I recommend the next Transporter be 1/2 its present size which could easily be done without sacrificing any of the elements within. My two cents from the peanut gallery. -- Suprlite7 SB3-Bel Canto DAC3-Bel Canto Ref1000s-Gallo Reference 3.1 Suprlite7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43697 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
