Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-08-19 Thread slartibartfast


caball wrote: 
> Hello,
> I have another problem with WMA files - I'm unable to play two or more
> songs continuously. It stops after each track and I need to start
> manually the next one.
> 
> Version of Squeezelite:  Squeezelite v1.9.3-1180 on Debian 10 Buster
> LMS - Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1565967976 @ Fri Aug 16
> 17:16:14 CEST 2019 on Debian 10 Buster
> 
> Thanks to god that there are no noises or glitches  during playback :) 
> But its strange behavior. What can causing this?You seemed to have the same 
> issue in April. Changing to Debian didn't
help then.

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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-08-19 Thread caball


Hello,
I have another problem with WMA files - I'm unable to play two or more
songs continuously. It stops after each track and I need to start
manually the next one.

Version of Squeezelite:  Squeezelite v1.9.3-1180 on Debian 10 Buster
LMS - Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1565967976 @ Fri Aug 16
17:16:14 CEST 2019 on Debian 10 Buster

Thanks to god that there are no noises or glitches  during playback :) 
But its strange behavior. What can causing this?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-04 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> OK. Thank you all for good effort and advice.  My take away from it is,
> as it stands now, to retain lossless audio, I need to re-code all my WMA
> to FLAC.  Correct?

Or if ffmpeg exectuable is available for your LMS system - modify the
convert.conf file (or add a custom-cnovert.conf) to transcode WMA
Lossless using ffmpeg and disable native WMA Lossless.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-04 Thread Hal Bregg


kidstypike wrote: 
> Thank you.


OK. Thank you all for good effort and advice.  My take away from it is,
as it stands now, to retain lossless audio, I need to re-code all my WMA
to FLAC.  Correct?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-01 Thread kidstypike


ralphy wrote: 
> The base picoreplayer install does not include the ffmpeg libraries to
> save space in the image.
> In this state, squeeelite can't play wma or alac files and relies on LMS
> to transcode those formats.
> LMS on Windows includes transcoding support (wmadec) for wma files all
> other platforms include linux (picoreplayer) require either bpa's
> PlayWMA plug or a custom-convert.conf with transcoding rules for wma
> wmal and wmap.
> 
> There's an install ffmpeg library button on the main page of the
> picoreplayer webgui which adds native wma and alac support to
> squezelite.  After installing pcp-libffmpeg.tcz, wmalossless files
> currently won't play correctly.

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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-01 Thread ralphy


The base picoreplayer install does not include the ffmpeg libraries to
save space in the image.
In this state, squeeelite can't play wma or alac files and relies on LMS
to transcode those formats.
LMS on Windows includes transcoding support (wmadec) for wma files all
other platforms include linux (picoreplayer) require either bpa's
PlayWMA plug or a custom-convert.conf with transcoding rules for wma
wmal and wmap.

There's an install ffmpeg library button on the main page of the
picoreplayer webgui which adds native wma and alac support to
squezelite.  After installing pcp-libffmpeg.tcz, wmalossless files
currentl won't play correctly.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-01 Thread kidstypike


ralphy wrote: 
> This issue is with ffmpeg wmalossless decoder in 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3. 
> Which are the versions I currently use to build SL.
> Upgrading to 3.4 and all the wma lossless files I tried play fine.  Back
> porting the changes to 3.2 fixes wma lossless playback as well.
> Unfortunately, squeezelite is using a depreciated ffmpeg api call so I
> can't upgrade to the latest ffmpeg until I change that and upgrading to
> 3.4 has caused stability issues with wma and alac playback.

I ripped an album to WMA lossless, added album art, replaygain tags,
etc.. This album plays beautifully using Pi3B+/HiFiBerry
DAC+/piCoreplayer, when it is connected to LMS running on Windows 10,
but *not* when connected to LMS running on another Pi/piCorePlayer.

See also my post #24 in this thread.

Could you please explain in very, very simple language what the
difference is between the two, bearing in mind it's the *same
squeezelite player*?

Thank you.

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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-01 Thread ralphy


This issue is with ffmpeg wmalossless decoder in 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3. 
Which are the versions I currently use to build SL.
Upgrading to 3.4 and all the wma lossless files I tried play fine.  Back
porting the changes to 3.2 fixes wma lossless playback as well.
Unfortunately, squeezelite is using a depreciated ffmpeg api call so I
can't upgrade to the latest ffmpeg until I change that and upgrading to
3.4 has caused stability issues with wma and alac playback.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-06-01 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Or, can anyone confirm their own experience of WMA successfully playing
> on PCP?

I don't have pcp and as this thread is probably not read by many pcp
users, if you need an answer to the generic pcp question - ask it on the
pcp support thread
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109404-ANNOUNCE-piCorePlayer-4-0-0

The problem is Squeezelite specific not pcp specific. I have reproduced
this problem with Squeezelite on Win10 and Ubuntu.  

AFAICT The problem only affects WMA lossless files - the problem happens
with some other WMA lossless files I have. WMA lossy files are not
affected and play OK.  

I think the issue maybe a "recent" one due to a change in the ffmpeg API
as I believe my WMA lossless test files used to play OK but I am not
certain as earlier builds often didn't include wma support - so LMS may
have been doing the transcoding.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-31 Thread Hal Bregg


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> I'd appreciate if someone could share a WMA file that plays well on
> their PCP.   Due to the file size, a link to a DropBox might be the
> best.  Thanks in advance !

Or, can anyone confirm their own experience of WMA successfully playing
on PCP?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-30 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> That is the nature of s/w development.  A single line of code changed
> may requires hours of testing to check that there are no side
> effects.The ffmpeg API change may have broken WMA lossless as I get the
> same "nosie" with a WMA lossless test file I haveit shows how few people
> still use WMA lossless and show how hard it is to validate changes to
> cover most users.
> 
> I think pcp 5.0 is nearly ready so I doubt a "fixed" squeezelite will
> make it into it. Normally, such a change would then be included in next
> point release,  however there is a new "hot fix" feature which may be
> applicable.
> 
> 
> The workaround I suggested earlier is still possible - modify the
> PlayWMA plugin to use ffmpeg to do transcoding as I think there is a
> package which has command line ffmpeg for pcp.


I'd appreciate if someone could share a WMA file that plays well on
their PCP.   Due to the file size, a link to a DropBox might be the
best.  Thanks in advance !



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-30 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Thanks, that sounds good, if a little lengthy ?
That is the nature of s/w development.  A single line of code changed
may requires hours of testing to check that there are no side
effects.The ffmpeg API change may have broken WMA lossless as I get the
same "nosie" with a WMA lossless test file I haveit shows how few people
still use WMA lossless and show how hard it is to validate changes to
cover most users.

I think pcp 5.0 is nearly ready so I doubt a "fixed" squeezelite will
make it into it. Normally, such a change would then be included in next
point release,  however there is a new "hot fix" feature which may be
applicable.

> Meanwhile, I recoded one of the WMA files to FLAC and it played
> distortion free.
The workaround I suggested earlier is still possible - modify the
PlayWMA plugin to use ffmpeg to do transcoding as I think there is a
package which has command line ffmpeg for pcp.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-29 Thread Hal Bregg


Paul Webster wrote: 
> It would probably need a code change in Squeezelite and then
> distribution of new versions for loads of platforms and then
> installation by users.
> Ralphy usually makes a test version available first for the
> person/people who have seen the issue so that they can test/verify fixes
> and check for unexpected side-effects before the rest of the world gets
> it in an official release.


Thanks, that sounds good, if a little lengthy ?

Meanwhile, I recoded one of the WMA files to FLAC and it played
distortion free.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Webster


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Ok, supposing there is an error there.  What would be the way of fixing
> it?

It would probably need a code change in Squeezelite and then
distribution of new versions for loads of platforms and then
installation by users.
Ralphy usually makes a test version available first for the
person/people who have seen the issue so that they can test/verify fixes
and check for unexpected side-effects before the rest of the world gets
it in an official release.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-29 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> I played on a PC (Ubuntu 18.04) which has squeezelite which is
> statically linked with the ffmpeg libraries - so exactly same code as
> runs on Pi.
> 
> Looking at Squeezelite issues - there is an open minor issue about using
> old ffmpeg library interface.
> I think the problem is really squeezelite not handling the feedback from
> ffmpeg gracefully.
> 
> To check if this is really the same error on your Pi - look at the log
> from squeezelite - I think you have to enable it on pcp.


Ok, supposing there is an error there.  What would be the way of fixing
it?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-28 Thread Hal Bregg


ralphy wrote: 
> Thanks bpa for bringing this to my attention.
> 
> ffmpeg was updated last year when AVStream member AVCodecContext was
> deprecated in the api.  
> 
> I'll research if those changes are the cause or if squeezelite isn't
> handling ffmpeg decoder errors correctly and report back in this thread.


Hi Ralphy, Happy to see you monitoring the threads, and complements on
the great product !

I'm testing out the PCP, impressed by its potential as both a Player and
Server for WMA.  The PCP looks good and a generous donation fully worth
it, once I get it to work.
Also, impressed with the depth of knowledge and will to assist by the
senior colleagues here !  Thanks !

Ralphy, sa your comment was on the ffmpeg only, should we conclude other
settings of the PCP have no bearing on the issue?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-28 Thread ralphy


Thanks bpa for bringing this to my attention.

ffmpeg was updated last year when AVStream member AVCodecContext was
deprecated in the api.  

I'll research if those changes are the cause or if squeezelite isn't
handling ffmpeg decoder errors correctly and report back in this thread.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-28 Thread bpa


Having booted up a LMS Win10 system - I did some test with problem
file.

Players - Boom (no WMA lossless) , Radio (native WMA Lossless),
SqueezeliteX (on Win10 & native WMA Lossless), Squeezelite (on
Ubuntu/Linux & native WMA Lossless)


1. Boom   - plays OK with LMS transcoding (wmadec/flac)
2. Radio - plays OK with no transcoding.
3. SqueezeliteX - plays Noise with no transcoding.
4. Squeezelite - plays Noise with no transcoding.
5. SqueezeliteX - plays OK with transcoding  (i.e. WMA Lossless filetype
native disabled).
6. Squeezelite - plays OK with transcoding (i.e. WMA Lossless filetype
native disabled).

This tells me the problem is Squeezelite use of ffmpeg libraries -
doesn't matter which OS platform Squeezelite is on - the problem still
appears.  

Transcoding from WMA Lossless with LMS on Linux (or OSX) will depend on
ffmpeg libraries - so caution.
Transcoding from WMA Lossless with LMS on Windows is OK using wmadec.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-28 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> So, to Sherlock Holmes it, it would seem the WMA seems gets a pass,
> Squeezette gets a pass, and the PiCorePlayer gets to blush ?

Not necessarily, you haven't shown whether transcoding is taking place
on the Win10 LMS.

What is in the log from the pcp suqeezelite player when you get the
noise ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> I don't have pcp so I don't know what you're talking about. The message
> I see require no additional setting as squeezelite is run from a command
> line.   However Squeezelite log should have nothing to do with Binary or
> ALSA. When squeezelite runs, it produces messages usually to stderr,
> these can be put into a log file.  Squeezelite also has specific log
> options which can be enabled by command line options - to check
> "decoder" messages, you can add "-d decode=info" to the command line

Ok.  I tested the following.

Started LMS running on a Raspberry 1 PCP server and sent a WMA first to
Squeezebox Touch, then to a PCP player on Raspberry 2.
Sopped LMS, restarted it on WIN 10 with a Squeezelite X, and repeated
the test with the same WMA and the same destination.

In both tests the WMA played perfectly on the Touch and produced a
horrible noise on the Raspberry 2 Player.  

So, to Sherlock Holmes it, it would seem the WMA seems gets a pass,
Squeezette gets a pass, and the PiCorePlayer gets to blush ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Will do.. Also, Squeezelite tab has a setting for the Binary and for
> ALSA.  What is your setting there?
I don't have pcp so I don't know what tyou're talking about.  However
Squeezelite log should have nothing to do with Binary or ALSA. When
squeezelite runs, it produces messages usually to stderr, these can be
put into a log file.  Squeezelite also has specific log options which
can be enmabled by command line options - to check "decoder" messages,
you can add "-d decode=info" to the command line



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> I played on a PC (Ubuntu 18.04) which has squeezelite which is
> statically linked with the ffmpeg libraries - so exactly same code as
> runs on Pi.
> 
> Looking at Squeezelite issues - there is an open minor issue about using
> old ffmpeg library interface.
> I think the problem is really squeezelite not handling the feedback from
> ffmpeg gracefully.
> 
> To check if this is really the same error on your Pi - look at the log
> from squeezelite - I think you have to enable it on pcp.


Will do.. Also, Squeezelite tab has a setting for the Binary and for
ALSA.  What is your setting there?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Ok.  Thank you for looking into it, Friends.  I appreciate it.
> 
> BPA, did you play this file on a PC or Raspberry?  If PC, are you
> successful playing any other WMA on Raspberry?
I played on a PC (Ubuntu 18.04) which has squeezelite which is
statically linked with the ffmpeg libraries - so exactly same code as
runs on Pi.

Looking at Squeezelite issues - there is an open minor issue about using
old ffmpeg library interface.
I think the problem is really squeezelite not handling the feedback from
ffmpeg gracefully.

To check if this is really the same error on your Pi - look at the log
from squeezelite - I think you have to enable it on pcp.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> OK - I may try to test with the Ubuntu Squeezelite and a Win10 LMS.

Ok.  Thank you for looking into it, Friends.  I appreciate it.

BPA, did you play this file on a PC or Raspberry?  If PC, are you
successful playing any other WMA on Raspberry?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread bpa


kidstypike wrote: 
> Sorry bpa, all completely beyond me, will bow out.

OK - I may try to test with the Ubuntu Squeezelite and a Win10 LMS.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread kidstypike


bpa wrote: 
> Is LMS doing the transcoding ? LMS on Windows uses MS supplied libraries
> not ffmpeg  to transcode.
> Can the Squeezelite play WMA native ?
> 
> Check by running Squeezelite with " -d slimproto=info " and the initial
> output will show what codecs are supported natively (scroll text below
> to end).
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > 11:06:39.282286] sendHELO:136 cap: 
CanHTTPS=1,Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.9.2-1145,ModelName=SqueezeLite,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,alc,wma,wmap,wmal,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3,loc
  > 
  > 

> > 

Sorry bpa, all completely beyond me, will bow out.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread bpa


kidstypike wrote: 
> Deeply puzzled!
> 
> Squeezelite *CAN* play the supplied file when the player is connected to
> LMS running on my WIN10 PC. (see my post #24 above).
> 
> Player "study" below is Pi3B+/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 4.1
> 
> 27441

Is LMS doing the transcoding ?
Can the Squeezelite play WMA native ?

Check by running Squeezelite with " -d slimproto=info " and the initial
output will show what codecs are supported natively (scroll text below
to end).

Code:


  11:06:39.282286] sendHELO:136 cap: 
CanHTTPS=1,Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.9.2-1145,ModelName=SqueezeLite,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,alc,wma,wmap,wmal,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3,loc
  
  




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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread kidstypike


bpa wrote: 
> No - the answer is more nuanced.  Squeezelite (all version not just PCP)
> cannot play YOUR WMA files.

Deeply puzzled!

Squeezelite *CAN* play the supplied file when the player is connected to
LMS running on my WIN10 PC. (see my post #24 above).

Player "study" below is Pi3B+/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 4.1

27441


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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-27 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> So, in essence, the piCorePlayer is unable to play WMA format ?

No - the answer is more nuanced.  Squeezelite (all version not just PCP)
cannot play YOUR WMA files.  
Up to now, Squeezelite has been able to play all types of WMA files of
LMS users.
There is something in your WMA files that seem to break the WMA
specification as posted by MS but it can be tolerated.

There are applications such as mplayer and VLC which use the ffmpeg
libraries and can play your files. Squeezlite also uses the ffmpeg
libraries but cannot handle your WMA files. So the issue is probably
squeezelite is not using the ffmpeg libraries "properly" and some sort
of result from libraries is producing the error message and squeezelite
is breaking the decode process. 

The long term solution would be an update to Squeezeliute to handle your
WMA files in the way VLC and other users of ffmpeg libraries.

Short term answer might be to get a copy of ffmpeg on your LMS system to
transcode WMA (i.e. modify PlayWMA plugin to use ffmpeg)  and not have
Squeezelite attempt the decode.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-26 Thread Paul Webster


It needs a helper to do it - which usually works - but even that does
not (currently) help in the case of your particular WMA files.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-26 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> Similar errors were seen on a WMA lossless stream and bug reported (
> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/5820 ) but it seemed to be a transport
> issue and so was considered nothing to fix.

So, in essence, the piCorePlayer is unable to play WMA format ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread bpa


Similar errors were seen on a WMA lossless stream and bug reported (
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/5820 ) but it seemed to be a transport
issue and so was considered nothing to fix.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> ffmpeg is an area to check but also possibility the file is doing
> something "illegal" (certainly looks like it from the error messages)
> 
> What application  was used to rip the file ?  Was it an MS application
> or a 3rd party ?
> 
> WMA used to be proprietary (don't know current status as MS have open
> sourced lots of things). IIRC original ffmpeg WMA decoders were
> independently written without specifications or use of MS docs to avoid
> litigation.  So some features may not have been implemented. 
> 
> Need to check  whether latest version of ffmpeg still has the problems. 
> Reporting problems to ffmpeg can be a pain and often not a quick reply. 
> The source of the file (i.e. details of the ripping s/w) usually needs
> to be part of that report.


A few years ago I used a PC with MS Windows Media Player to rip all my
CDs to WMA Lossless and play them on Squeezebox Touch.  That turned out
to be the last year of it, landing me in the same predicament as the
rest of us.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> "Horrible noise" is a much better description than my "distortion", well
> said !
> 
> FFmpeg libraries does indeed sound like a strong lead.  Wonder if there
> is an alternative source or version for them ?

ffmpeg is an area to check but also possibility the file is doing
something "illegal" (certainly looks like it from the error messages)

What application  was used to rip the file ?  Was it an MS application
or a 3rd party ?

WMA used to be proprietary (don't know current status as MS have open
sourced lots of things). IIRC original ffmpeg WMA decoders were
independently written without specifications or use of MS docs to avoid
litigation.  So some features may not have been implemented. 

Need to check  whether latest version of ffmpeg still has the problems. 
Reporting problems to ffmpeg can be a pain and often not a quick reply. 
The source of the file (i.e. details of the ripping s/w) usually needs
to be part of that report.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread Hal Bregg


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> This is great, as the WMA file format was eliminated as a cause, with
> thanks !
> So the next suspect is the settings.  File Size on Main Page tab?  ALSA
> parameters under Squeezelite tab?  PCP kernel under Tweeks tab?  What
> works well for you?



"Horrible noise" is a much better description than my "distortion", well
said !

FFmpeg libraries does indeed sound like a strong lead.  Wonder if there
is an alternative source or version for them ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> Testing with ffmpeg on the file.
> 
> When converting it to WAV (which would be the same as squeezelite with
> ffmpeg libraries).  The file converts but with lots of errors which will
> take time to research.  The WMA file is playable with mplayer which also
> uses ffmpeg libraries.
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9492476, current: 9492437; changing to 9492476. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  > [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9588702, current: 9588663; changing to 9588702. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  > [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9754606, current: 9754567; changing to 9754606. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  > [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9805806, current: 9805767; changing to 9805806. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  > [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9816037, current: 9815999; changing to 9816037. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  > 

> > 
> 
> I'll see if I can play the file with squeezelite on Ubuntu.

This is great, as the WMA file format was eliminated as a cause, with
thanks !
So the next suspect is the settings.  File Size on Main Page tab?  ALSA
parameters under Squeezelite tab?  PCP kernel under Tweeks tab?  What
works well for you?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread bpa


Success !  - horrible noise when playing with Squeezelite-pulse  (which
has WMA support) on Ubuntu 

Lots of errors messages.  The file is at fault.

Code:


  [17:03:03.140933] discover_server:799 got response from: 192.168.1.58:3483
  [17:03:03.140951] slimproto:887 connecting to 192.168.1.58:3483
  [17:03:03.141002] slimproto:926 connected
  [17:03:03.141011] slimproto:937 local player
  [17:03:03.141016] sendHELO:134 mac: 74:da:38:a6:39:77
  [17:03:03.141020] sendHELO:136 cap: 
CanHTTPS=1,Model=squeezelite,AccuratePlayPoints=1,HasDigitalOut=1,HasPolarityInversion=1,Firmware=v1.9.2-1145,ModelName=SqueezeLite,MaxSampleRate=384000,dsf,dff,alc,wma,wmap,wmal,aac,ogg,flc,aif,pcm,mp3,loc
  [17:03:36.370774] ffmpeg: stream 0, timescale not set
  [17:03:36.371628] ffmpeg: Error : 6145837 bits left
  [17:03:36.371640] ffmpeg: Failed to decode all channels
  [17:03:47.093167] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(3584) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.093212] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.093823] ffmpeg: Found empty subframe
  [17:03:47.093846] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.094512] ffmpeg: Found empty subframe
  [17:03:47.094532] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.095059] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(2944) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.095080] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.095323] ffmpeg: Expect wrong output since inverse LPC 
filter[17:03:47.095329] ffmpeg:  is not implemented. Update your FFmpeg version 
to the newest one from Git. If the problem still occurs, it means that your 
file has a feature which has not been implemented.
  [17:03:47.095334] ffmpeg: If you want to help, upload a sample of this file 
to ftp://upload.ffmpeg.org/incoming/ and contact the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. 
(ffmpeg-de...@ffmpeg.org)
  [17:03:47.095365] ffmpeg: Arithmetic coding[17:03:47.095369] ffmpeg:  is not 
implemented. Update your FFmpeg version to the newest one from Git. If the 
problem still occurs, it means that your file has a feature which has not been 
implemented.
  [17:03:47.095373] ffmpeg: If you want to help, upload a sample of this file 
to ftp://upload.ffmpeg.org/incoming/ and contact the ffmpeg-devel mailing list. 
(ffmpeg-de...@ffmpeg.org)
  [17:03:47.095377] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.095598] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(3584) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.095607] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.095824] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(2688) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.095831] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.096044] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(2560) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.096051] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.096265] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(2304) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.096272] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  [17:03:47.096487] ffmpeg: broken frame: channel len(2176) > 
samples_per_frame(2048)
  [17:03:47.096494] ff_decode:408 avcodec_decode_audio4 error: -1094995529 
Invalid data found when processing input
  
  




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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread bpa


Testing with ffmpeg on the file.

When converting it to WAV (which would be the same as squeezelite with
ffmpeg libraries).  The file converts but with lots of errors which will
take time to research.

Code:


  wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9492476, current: 9492437; changing to 9492476. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9588702, current: 9588663; changing to 9588702. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9754606, current: 9754567; changing to 9754606. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9805806, current: 9805767; changing to 9805806. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  [wav @ 0x55ffb335dec0] Non-monotonous DTS in output stream 0:0; previous: 
9816037, current: 9815999; changing to 9816037. This may result in incorrect 
timestamps in the output file.
  




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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread Paul Webster


wmadec is Windows only - but the solution might be to use ffmpeg as
described in old pCP thread
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107352-Announce-piCorePlayer-3-20=906130=1#post906130

(quite possible that there is a different/better solution available
nowadays)



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread kidstypike


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> New Link:
> 
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oecneq77kj5zpee/11%20POESIE%20DI%20MUSE.wma?dl=0

OK, got it.

File plays fine with MediaMonkey on Win10 PC, it also plays fine on
Squeezelite/piCorePlayer/Pi/HiFiBerry DAC+ when connected to LMS running
on same Win10 PC. Filetype settings:

27437

However I can't get the file to play on any player (Can't play file type
for:) when players are connected to LMS running on Pi/piCorePlayer.
Filetype settings:

27438

However, this is probably down to me not knowing what extensions to
install (and how) on the Pi, which is probably your predicament too? :(

So sorry, I can't help you.


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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread Hal Bregg


kidstypike wrote: 
> I don't see any file?
> 
> 27433

New Link:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/oecneq77kj5zpee/11%20POESIE%20DI%20MUSE.wma?dl=0



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-25 Thread kidstypike


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Thanks !
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/home/Shared?preview=11+POESIE+DI+MUSE.wma

I don't see any file?

27433


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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


The WMAs are on the second Raspberry with PiCorePlayer server and
dedicated HD.   It plays well into Squeezebox Touch.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


kidstypike wrote: 
> You should be able to "copy link" and paste it in your post.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgqxoirhbijzbp8/Longaford%20Tor2.jpg?dl=0
> 
> 27427

Thanks !

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Shared?preview=11+POESIE+DI+MUSE.wma



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> The same files play well on Logitec Squeezebox Touch and also on the Win
> 10 Intel i7 default Realtec driver.  Sample WMA enclosed.
> 
> Is your configuration playing WMAs?

I'm not sure if Touch can play WMA Lossless natively. If not then it is
transcoded by MS libraries if LMS is on a Win10 system.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread kidstypike


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Yes.  Placed samples in Dropbox now.  Need an email address to share the
> folder.

You should be able to "copy link" and paste it in your post.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgqxoirhbijzbp8/Longaford%20Tor2.jpg?dl=0

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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


Yes.  Placed samples in Dropbox now.  Need an email address to share the
folder.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread kidstypike


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Ok trouble uploading a small 5MB file here, non-specific error reported.
> Is there a size limitation?

Yes, 5MB much too big, can you supply a link to the file? Dropbox?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> The same files play well on Logitec Squeezebox Touch and also on the Win
> 10 Intel i7 default Realtec driver.  Sample WMA enclosed.
> 
> Is your configuration playing WMAs?


Ok trouble uploading a small 5MB file here, non-specific error reported.
Is there a size limitation?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread kidstypike


I don't see any sample file.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> ffmpeg works OK with WMA lossless and 44.1kHz 2 channel means no
> resampling or other messing is required.  ffmpeg libraries on
> squeezelite for WMA works OK for other users - so it is likely something
> specific to your system or the file. Since it happens on a second system
> but you have configured identically - does not help localise the problem
> to either file or system.
> 
> The distortion you describe "feels" like a decoding issue. Many of the
> ffmpeg WMA libraries are not MS libraries but that said, are well
> tested.
> 
> These files play OK on any other Linux system (which do not have MS
> libraries) ?
> 
> The files play OK on a Windows system ?  What does Windows Media player
> say about the files ?
> 
> As kidystypike suggested - uploading a sample file would enable other to
> test the file.


The same files play well on Logitec Squeezebox Touch and also on the Win
10 Intel i7 default Realtec driver.  Sample WMA enclosed.

Is your configuration playing WMAs?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> WMA Lossless. There is an overlay noise that seems interfering with the
> file as processed.  It's not like an out of range audio, its the
> information scrambled.
Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Looking at the file format, the only CD rip data given is 192kbps (best
> quality).  Data on audio CDs is  2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM
> sampled at 44,100 Hz

ffmpeg works OK with WMA lossless and 44.1kHz 2 channel means no
resampling or other messing is required.  ffmpeg libraries on
squeezelite for WMA works OK for other users - so it is likely something
specific to your system or the file. Since it happens on a second system
but you have configured identically - does not help localise the problem
to either file or system.

The distortion you describe "feels" like a decoding issue. Many of the
ffmpeg WMA libraries are not MS libraries but that said, are well
tested.

These files play OK on any other Linux system (which do not have MS
libraries) ?

The files play OK on a Windows system ?  What does Windows Media player
say about the files ?

As kidystypike suggested - uploading a sample file would enable other to
test the file.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread kidstypike


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> The DAC board is HiFiBerry DAC+ Light for Raspberry Pi, and listed as
> approved by piCorePlayer.   Playing without it sounds the same. 
> Actually, I have a second, duplicate system, minus the DAC board.  Great
> for MP3s, same distortion for WMA.

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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Looking at the file format, the only CD rip data given is 192kbps (best
> quality).  Data on audio CDs is  2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM
> sampled at 44,100 Hz

The DAC board is HiFiBerry DAC+ Light for Raspberry Pi, and listed as
approved by piCorePlayer.   Playing without it sounds the same. 
Actually, I have a second, duplicate system, minus the DAC board.  Great
for MP3s, same distortion for WMA.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> WMA Lossless. There is an overlay noise that seems interfering with the
> file as processed.  It's not like an out of range audio, its the
> information scrambled.

Looking at the file format, the only CD rip data given is 192kbps (best
quality).  Data on audio CDs is  2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM
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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread d6jg

You mention a DAC board in an earlier thread. What is it?
If you disable said DAC and play through the Pi’s onboard audio do you
get the same issue?
I say this because the price point of nearly all the Pi HAT DACs is such
that you will get the odd faulty board.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> So speed is correct.
> The content is still understandable but there seems to be a on overlay
> of noise or are some sample being decoded incorrectly so there are
> fragments of good and fragment of bad.
> 
> What type of WMA file is it
> WMA 7 WMA8, WMA9, WMA Pro,  WMA 10, WMA Lossless ? WMA Voice, other ?
> 
> Sample rate 44.1kHz, 48khz, 96Khz other ?
> Sample size - 16bit, 24bits, 32bits ?
> Channels 1, 2 , other ?


WMA Lossless. There is an overlay noise that seems interfering with the
file as processed.  It's not like an out of range audio, its the
information scrambled.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> Hi and thank you for responding.
> 
> The files play seriously hissing and crackling. Its apparent they are
> not being properly decoded.
So speed is correct.
The content is still understandable but there seems to be a on overlay
of noise or are some sample being decoded incorrectly so there are
fragments of good and fragment of bad.

What type of WMA file is it
WMA 7 WMA8, WMA9, WMA Pro,  WMA Lossless ? WMA Voice, other ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


bpa wrote: 
> What sort of distortion
> 
> Slow playback ?
> Volume ?
> Noise ?

Hi and thank you for responding.

The files play seriously hissing and crackling. Its apparent they are
not being properly decoded.



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread bpa


Hal Bregg wrote: 
> It does, but with huge distortion, even on a DAC audio board.

What sort of distortion

Slow playback ?
Volume ?
Noise ?



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2019-05-24 Thread Hal Bregg


Hi.  Very impressed with piCorePlayer and hoping it plays WMA files.  

It does, but with huge distortion, even on a DAC audio board.
FFMpeg libraries installed and reinstalled, backed up and rebooted, with
various settings.
As a first-timer I'm likely missing what an experienced user figured out
long time ago.

Will so appreciate any suggestions,  Thank you in advance !

Hal



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Re: [slim] WMA files not playing back

2018-12-14 Thread ralphy


On the main page in the web gui, you need to install the ffmpeg
libraries for squeezelite for wma and alac decoder support.



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[slim] WMA files not playing back

2018-12-13 Thread gbcambridge


Hi,
I am using a Raspberry Pi Model 3 as a host for piCorePlayer. Today I
downloaded the latest version, 4.1which I understood now supports WMA
files. However, when I try to play them it just freezes.
I had the impression that eh system would ask me if I wanted the extra
files to support WMA when I installed, but there were no choices..just a
download and burn.
I must be missing something obvious...can anyone point me in the right
direction . short of converting he WMA to Flac?

Thanks for the help

George



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