Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2010-01-24 Thread Justme

jtpowell;448042 Wrote: 
 I've got an app for that pending approval right now.  You can see the
 screenshots of it though here
 techadvantagenow.com/v1/products/SqueezeMobile.aspx
 
 I've been dogfooding it the last few weeks and it works well Wifi or
 3G.  I can control the player from the iPhone itself or Squeeze Center. 
 Works great in my dock too.  I submited last week so hopefully within
 another week it should be for sale in the App Store.

Will be interested in trying this out. Can one syncronize with the
other SB's?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2010-01-24 Thread Justme

andrei_c;485160 Wrote: 
 I am in the same boat as most posters in this thread, looking for a way
 to stream my 1TB collection wirelessly to the iPhone. I tried iPeng
 dance and Squeeze Mobile but unfortunately neither worked for me. Good
 attempts though.
 
 So I consider writing and publishing my own iPhone app which will not
 rely on QuickTime to playback Squeezebox stream. It's doable in 1-3
 months. I am not looking to make big money, just to do myself and a
 community a favor and recoup time stolen from family.
 
 The question is, how much demand is there? Would you use one? Would you
 pay $9.99 price point for it (provided it is 100% reliable?)
 
 Let me know what you think. Or, maybe there's another solution that I
 should try instead?

The key for me is to be able to syncronize with the other SB's. We have
a multiroom setup, but that's a tad expensive to fit out every room, and
having the iPhone play from squeeze server would add another room. But
it has to syncronize. Softsqueeze used to be able to do this on a PC.
So, I wonder if the same can be done with an iPhone.

I also presume it will play music from mp3tunes.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2010-01-23 Thread nathan_h

jtpowell;448747 Wrote: 
 Simplify Media does have an iPhone client. I've already got a Squeeze
 Center though.

The problem with Simplify is that is down rezes flac to below 200 kbps,
otherwise it's not a bad solution -- though of course it's outside the
Slim eco-system.  (This downrezzing isn't just for the iphone client. 
Same thing happens on the desktop.)

I'm real tempted to open up port 9000 on my router and connect remotely
that way, using the SC password.  Yes, I understand it's not
particularly secure BUT if it gets compromised, what's the damage
potential?  Someone else listening to my music collection?  

Or?

(I've been trying the SSH option but cannot get it working under
Windows 7.)


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-11-16 Thread jeremy

I'd pay $9.99 in a heartbeat for a reliable solution
Jeremy


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-11-13 Thread andrei_c

I am in the same boat as most posters in this thread, looking for a way
to stream my 1TB collection wirelessly to the iPhone. I tried iPeng
dance and Squeeze Mobile but unfortunately neither worked for me. Good
attempts though.

So I consider writing and publishing my own iPhone app which will not
rely on QuickTime to playback Squeezebox stream. It's doable in 1-3
months. I am not looking to make big money, just to do myself and a
community a favor and recoup time stolen from family.

The question is, how much demand is there? Would you use one? Would you
pay $9.99 price point for it (provided it is 100% reliable?)

Let me know what you think. Or, maybe there's another solution that I
should try instead?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-11-13 Thread sheppy124

Though not really a squeezebox solution, but I would like to see decent
app for video as well as music, ooh if ipeng could stream my videos as
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-09-13 Thread Munge

I tried the tip from alex_london, and it’s a brilliant solution! Some
comments:
- sometimes Safari doesn’t start the playback, then I just click Done
and try again
- you need to have lame installed on the server
- you might need to adjust player (i.e. for the iPod) Audio settings in
SqueezeCenter
- as already pointed out by alex_london, there is quite a delay because
of the buffering
Using e.g. iPeng to control the iPod and then Safari to play even gives
you background music. You can run any application except Safari. No need
for Mobile Squeeze if you ask me.
(I use iPeng 1.0.5, iPod 3.1.1, SqueezeCenter 7.3.2.)


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-09-13 Thread jtpowell

Munge;457747 Wrote: 
 I tried the tip from alex_london, and it’s a brilliant solution! Some
 comments:
 - sometimes Safari doesn’t start the playback, then I just click Done
 and try again
 - you need to have lame installed on the server
 - you might need to adjust player (i.e. for the iPod) Audio settings in
 SqueezeCenter
 - as already pointed out by alex_london, there is quite a delay because
 of the buffering
 Using e.g. iPeng to control the iPod and then Safari to play even gives
 you background music. You can run any application except Safari. No need
 for Mobile Squeeze if you ask me.
 (I use iPeng 1.0.5, iPod 3.1.1, SqueezeCenter 7.3.2.)
My personal need, which is why I wrote it to begin with is listening to
my SC outside my house, especially while driving.  I also like to listen
at the office.  It's not for everyone but 99% of the time I'm listening
to my SC I'm away from it. I personally like to do that from my device
which is on me.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-09-03 Thread jtpowell

pichonCalavera;452723 Wrote: 
 I bought it, but it always crashes when trying to play the first song.
 And for the record I can play the stream.mp3 stream just fine from
 Winamp. Hoping an update fixes things.

Sorry I haven't been checking this thread just the product announcement
one.  If you have problems you can always contact me via the support
link in the app itself.

Using winamp or vlc isn't a good test for the stream.mp3 as both of
them don't seem to be as particular about the container/format.  I
recommend testing the stream.mp3 with iTunes instead if you have it.  
If the music stops what's bearing out is SC can't transcode what you
want at the rate you want.  The same thing that happens there generally
happens in SM as well.  We have NAS users to thank for a lot of that
information. Make sure in your file types MP3 is native and all your
other formats do indeed have MP3 enabled next to them.  Beta users may
not have that enabled by default.

I have an update 1.1.0 awaiting the App Store approval process and am
working on on 1.2.0 
1.1.0 I added library search so you don't have to wade through pages. 
1.2.0 will have multiple server support so if you access SC from inside
and outside your home you won't have to go into settings and keep
changing the address.

There is no default for your player as that data is not stored on your
mobile device but fetched right then and there.  Actually no data, save
the server, is on the device.  For me on 3G the device is always
different and the IP of my device never matching the public.  I'm open
to suggestions that can actually be implemented on that front.  I'd love
to be able to submit parameters like the playerid to the stream url
itself like the other urls in SC.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-29 Thread pichonCalavera

I bought it, but it always crashes when trying to play the first song.
And for the record I can play the stream.mp3 stream just fine from
Winamp. Hoping an update fixes things.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-28 Thread mkt

I just bought the Squeeze Mobile app and it seems to work for me mostly
as it should. No problems with flac or anything. Several crashes.
Switching tracks often crashes it.

One oddity/annoyance is that when I restart the app I have to select
the SqueezeMobile player each time. Seems like it should be the default.
Actually sometimes it resumes playing before you select but you cannot
control any thing. It seems that selecting in the Players list does the
selecting. I don't know what Squeeze Player in the next window
does.

It takes quite a while to respond to requests to skip to the next track
(buffering?) and there is sometimes a hiccup sound when it goes to the
next track.

I like the functionality, but definitely not too solid yet.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-25 Thread Andy8421

Just bought the app myself. Not got it going yet.  Think the problem is
stream format.

Exposing my ignorance here, how can I set SC so that I send FLAC to all
my squeeze boxes, but stream MP3 to the Squeeze Mobile?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-25 Thread andynormancx

Andy8421;451722 Wrote: 
 
 Exposing my ignorance here, how can I set SC so that I send FLAC to all
 my squeeze boxes, but stream MP3 to the Squeeze Mobile?
 
You shouldn't need to do anything, that should be what it does
out-of-the-box.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-25 Thread DoomWolf

I got the app going again today, but it always seems to crash somewhere
into the second track played.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-24 Thread DoomWolf

I've bought the app for my 2nd gen iPod Touch (OS 3.0). Initially it was
great, streamed off SC no problem. Then it crashed and I haven't been
able to get it going without doing nothing or crashing since.

When it worked it was great and exactly what I'm hoping to see from
iPeng soon. My Controller is looking more and more redundant (it does
make a nice clock).


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread peber

pippin;450099 Wrote: 
 Yes.
 You can set a password, though. Or use a VPN.

Since I've tried to make VPN work with no luck and when using Google to
find an instruction I get several ways of doing it although none seems
to work... hmmm...

So... anybody know how to set up VPN to reach my music either from a
windows pc or from the iphone? My SqueezeCenter PC runs Vista with the
windows firewall in use and I have a Netgear WGR614v9 router.

/Per


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread pippin

peber;450685 Wrote: 
 Since I've tried to make VPN work with no luck and when using Google to
 find an instruction I get several ways of doing it although none seems
 to work... hmmm...
 
 So... anybody know how to set up VPN to reach my music either from a
 windows pc or from the iphone? My SqueezeCenter PC runs Vista with the
 windows firewall in use and I have a Netgear WGR614v9 router.
 
 /Per

Don't know about your router's capabilities, but for iPhone you need
IPSec, which is unfortunately the most complex of VPN options.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread andynormancx

pippin;450686 Wrote: 
 Don't know about your router's capabilities, but for iPhone you need
 IPSec, which is unfortunately the most complex of VPN options.

His router doesn't support VPN, so he'll need to use the Windows box as
the end point. The iPhone doesn't only support IPSec, it also supports
PPTP and L2TP.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread pippin

andynormancx;450687 Wrote: 
 it also supports PPTP and L2TP.

Which are almost as insecure as using the SC password...
But you are right, being based on a Microsoft hack they might be
simpler to set up using Windows.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread peber

pippin;450710 Wrote: 
 Which are almost as insecure as using the SC password...
 But you are right, being based on a Microsoft hack they might be
 simpler to set up using Windows.

How insecure is the SC password? I do know the risks involved with
opening ports to the outside but has SC itself been hacked? Are there
any known issues regardig SC such as buffer overflow problems or such?

/Per


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread pippin

peber;450741 Wrote: 
 How insecure is the SC password? I do know the risks involved with
 opening ports to the outside but has SC itself been hacked? Are there
 any known issues regardig SC such as buffer overflow problems or such?
 

Nobody knows, which in itself is an insecurity.
Logitech does explicitly advice not to do this since it's not tested
against security risks.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread peber

pippin;450762 Wrote: 
 Nobody knows, which in itself is an insecurity.
 Logitech does explicitly advice not to do this since it's not tested
 against security risks.

OK, thanks! Then I will not do it, I promise! ;-)

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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-22 Thread jtpowell

For VPN I've got a DLINK DIR-330 it does IPSEC and PPTP and both work
great WIFI/3G.  I picked it up dirt cheap $50 off Ebay.  The VPN server
is built in no extra parts needed.  VPN is definitely for advanced
users. 

As for the security of SC that's not entirely unknown for starters it's
open source and perl.  Perl and the web go way back.  Any time
you open any port that's possibly available to public consumption though
even ssh, even vpn(remember the hordes of brute force attacks on that)
you're open to exposure.   SC itself can be as secure as can be but if
any part in the stack isn't. I'm pretty sure Logitech and others
don't want to be in the business of fielding complaints or blamed as the
source of ill from folks who didn't patch or properly secure their
Linux, Windows, Mac, etc., etc. device  so if I were Logitech I'd give
the same answer they did.  For all intents and purposes though this is
basic http traffic wether or not one should open it like any server
really depends on your level of expertise and willingness to exposure
and your own ability to mitigate that exposure.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-20 Thread hunta

jtpowell;448042 Wrote: 
 I've got an app for that pending approval right now.  You can see the
 screenshots of it though here
 techadvantagenow.com/v1/products/SqueezeMobile.aspx
 
 I've been dogfooding it the last few weeks and it works well Wifi or
 3G.  I can control the player from the iPhone itself or Squeeze Center. 
 Works great in my dock too.  I submited last week so hopefully within
 another week it should be for sale in the App Store.

Looks like this is up in the App Store, but I'm afraid I'm reticent at
forking out £2.99 to see whether it works or not (especially when the
only review to date is 1/5, not that I set much store by that).

How about a limited-time reduced price / beta phase or something to
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-20 Thread Sike

Would not opening port 9000 on the router allow the whole world to
connect to your server?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-20 Thread pippin

Sike;450090 Wrote: 
 Would not opening port 9000 on the router allow the whole world to
 connect to your server?

Yes.
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-20 Thread jtpowell

hunta;450064 Wrote: 
 Looks like this is up in the App Store, but I'm afraid I'm reticent at
 forking out £2.99 to see whether it works or not (especially when the
 only review to date is 1/5, not that I set much store by that).
 
 How about a limited-time reduced price / beta phase or something to
 generate a bit of interest?

At 2.99 that's already on sale.  It's probably worth more to some folks
even.  If you're using a release version though not Beta I'll shoot you
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-20 Thread hunta

If it works as it should I agree! PM on its way.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-16 Thread sander

The holy grail for me in this realm would be the ability to download
music from Squeezecenter entirely bypassing the need for it*nes.

If the streaming functionality exists this should be doable. I'm
unclear if the ipod can recognize/update the database on its own without
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-16 Thread jtpowell

It's technically possible but not quiet sure I'd want to go down that
road. One it duplicates functionality which Apple doesn't seem to be too
keen on. Second whoever develops that then has to manage a totally
seperate sandboxed audio library on the device itself.  Keeping the
local and remote in sync... Messy.  Nothing technically stopping a
developer however from d/l the audio from the link Squeeze Center
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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread larsfloe

Trying out alex_london excellent idea, i was disappointed that it didn't
work for me. I get the player as a new player whith I can choose in
Ipeng, but nothing happens - no response to any buttons. now and then
clicking sound from the Ipod?? Any ideas?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread larsfloe

Looks good - it doesn't say if you would be able to use your app as a
receiver only leaving the control to another device i.e. the Ipeng or
another remote? I would personally prefer the player bit to be as
invisible and thin as possible. Btw. I couldtt find the app in the
app-store - any release date?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread larsfloe

jtpowell;448042 Wrote: 
 I've got an app for that pending approval right now.  You can see the
 screenshots of it though here
 techadvantagenow.com/v1/products/SqueezeMobile.aspx
 
 I've been dogfooding it the last few weeks and it works well Wifi or
 3G.  I can control the player from the iPhone itself or Squeeze Center. 
 Works great in my dock too.  I submited last week so hopefully within
 another week it should be for sale in the App Store.

Looks good - it doesn't say if you would be able to use your app as a
receiver only leaving the control to another device i.e. the Ipeng or
another remote? I would personally prefer the player bit to be as
invisible and thin as possible. Btw. I couldtt find the app in the
app-store - any release date?


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread ismarketing

I use Simplify Media to stream my itunes library remotely.  It works
wonderfully and it's free.  I'm fairly sure they make an iphone client. 
It's not Squeezecenter, but it is a great way to get your music anywhere
if you use itunes.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread jtpowell

ismarketing;448672 Wrote: 
 I use Simplify Media to stream my itunes library remotely.  It works
 wonderfully and it's free.  I'm fairly sure they make an iphone client. 
 It's not Squeezecenter, but it is a great way to get your music anywhere
 if you use itunes.
Simplify Media does have an iPhone client. I've already got a Squeeze
Center though.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-15 Thread jtpowell

larsfloe;448611 Wrote: 
 Looks good - it doesn't say if you would be able to use your app as a
 receiver only leaving the control to another device i.e. the Ipeng or
 another remote? I would personally prefer the player bit to be as
 invisible and thin as possible. Btw. I couldtt find the app in the
 app-store - any release date?

It's not invisible but it can be controlled from any other controller
or Squeeze Center.  I just got an email from Apple today so it should
appear in the store shortly.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-12 Thread DigitalMitch

tried the above instructions for Iphone 3.0.1, whilst playing FLAC files
synchronously to 3 other players.

Safari opened Quicktime and this was visible as a player from both
iPeng on the same phone and my Controller. Both indicated the player was
off and I couldn't control it into life. The progress inicator on the
controller would track as if playing but both it and playing volume
would rest to 0 periodically (amd restart on waking the controller).
All play ceased and the controller displayed the error message 'Unable
to play file type ...' Player display persisted even after I had
switched off Quicktime player and had music playing again (player
display corrected by using IR to cycle display size !!!)

I tried the Quicktime player unsync'd from the rest of my players but
had the same result.

I then tried with an old mp3 file unsync'd and it worked, that is I got
streamed music from iphone. However it seemed to carry on playing and
ignore controller instructions (skip track and pause). I tried syncing
it, and after a delay, during which rest of players went quiet, it
started to play sync'd track, whilst controller labelled it off, rest of
players never resumed playing.

This shows it is possible but the limitations may be too much for many
(I can't see a use myself as i've 5 squeezebozes and a controller).


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-12 Thread DigitalMitch

Warning! I had a problem after this experiment.

If the 'Mozilla from ...' player is left sync'd to other players (even
when I'm sure I'd closed the quicktime player) then playing FLAC files
results in the message problem: unable to play file type on the SB3
(but not on the controller) and no music.

Normal service was restored by selecting this defunct player on the
controller and unsync'ing it from my hardware Squeezeboxes.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-12 Thread jtpowell

philippe_44;447175 Wrote: 
 Hi - Is there any plan to have application to transform an iPod / iPhone
 transformed into a receiver ? I've read that porting Squeezeplay would
 be rather difficult, but what I had more in mind what a simple solution
 like SqueezeSlave. My use case is that I'd love to use some of my iPod
 portable (battery powered) docking stations to listen to music _and_ to
 sync it with my other players. A portable boom would be perfect, but
 obviously this does not exist (I I can't find any solution, I'll
 probably work something around with an external battery, but this is
 going to look ugly). Initially, I would not even be willing to have a
 fancy app on the iPod, just the receiver capability and I coudl use my
 regular controller

I've got an app for that pending approval right now.  You can see the
screenshots of it though here
techadvantagenow.com/v1/products/SqueezeMobile.aspx

I've been dogfooding it the last few weeks and it works well Wifi or
3G.  I can control the player from the iPhone itself or Squeeze Center. 
Works great in my dock too.  I submited last week so hopefully within
another week it should be for sale in the App Store.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-11 Thread alex_london

Assuming you have iPeng, you can do this right now - first, use safari
to browse to http://squeezeCenter IP:9000/stream.mp3. This will
bring up a media player in safari. 

Now hit the home button, and from the springboard launch iPeng. You
should see the player listed as Mozilla from iPhone wireless IP.
Select it, and play away!

Your actions may be a bit delayed, as your SC is converting to mp3 in
the background, but otherwise it works perfectly for me!

If you don't have iPeng, you could use a web browser on another device
to control the player. Unfortunately, I've not been able to find a way
to browse to another tab in the iPhone Safari browser while it's
playing a stream - which is why I use iPeng to control it.

-Alex


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-11 Thread pippin

alex_london;447547 Wrote: 
 Assuming you have iPeng, you can do this right now - first, use safari
 to browse to http://squeezeCenter IP:9000/stream.mp3. This will
 bring up a media player in safari. 
 

iPhone 3.0?
Wow. This did not work in 2.2, then iPhone was not able to play
streams, only files.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-11 Thread andynormancx

pippin;447567 Wrote: 
 iPhone 3.0?
 Wow. This did not work in 2.2, then iPhone was not able to play
 streams, only files.

It didn't work when I tried it on my iPhone with 3.0.1


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[slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-09 Thread philippe_44

Hi - Is there any plan to have application to transform an iPod / iPhone
transformed into a receiver ? I've read that porting Squeezeplay would
be rather difficult, but what I had more in mind what a simple solution
like SqueezeSlave. My use case is that I'd love to use some of my iPod
portable (battery powered) docking stations to listen to music _and_ to
sync it with my other players. A portable boom would be perfect, but
obviously this does not exist (I I can't find any solution, I'll
probably work something around with an external battery, but this is
going to look ugly). Initially, I would not even be willing to have a
fancy app on the iPod, just the receiver capability and I coudl use my
regular controller


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-09 Thread kernel

There is an iphone/touch app called audioin (and a server program) which
can stream all audio played on a pc/mac to the iphone.


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Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver

2009-08-09 Thread andynormancx

The developer of the iPeng app is hoping to add player functionality at
some point. It makes much more sense to build it into iPeng than to have
a separate receiver/player app.


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