Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Testing Absolute Radio UK's 60s, 70s, 90s, and 00s streams today, I found only the 60s stream to be lossy. Looks like it's time to bug the station with another report, as the 60s stream has been lossy for weeks, if not months. Your lossless stream URLs (in a *decent* player like VLC or foobar2000): http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a7flac.ogg (70s) http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a9flac.ogg (90s) http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg (00s) Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa wrote: > The 128k is coming from the station http icy headers - the station is > providing misleading info. IIRC This info is sometimes used by LMS when > dealing with the metadata in MP3 and AAC streams but I don't think > metadata is provided in the OGG/Flac format. Good I will start adding some of these stations as favorites in LMS SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
garym wrote: > but it does show up in LMS as a 128 CBR files. Maybe LMS can't handle > FLAC in an OGG container. The 128k is coming from the station http icy headers - the station is providing misleading info. IIRC This info is sometimes used by LMS when dealing with the metadata in MP3 and AAC streams but I don't think metadata is provided in the OGG/Flac format. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
SlimChances wrote: > Quite right it was the wrong link. Tried again with the 80s station > using http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg in > Foobar but it didn't connect to anything. I will try later > > EDIT: I used Tune In and now have playback for the 80s station (please > forgive my ineptitude, not technologically gifted). Station appears to > be playing in format Ogg Flac but Bitrate: 128kbps CBR (Converted to > 705kbps FLAC) I'm playing this 80s link right now in foobar2000 (the way to play is copy the link, then in foobar2000, select FILE > Add Location, then paste in the URL above. In foobar2000 it shows as a FLAC files that bounces around a bit on bit rate from 900+ to 1170 or so. However, when I try to play this favorite in LMS via SqueezePlay, it won't actually play (no sound) but it does show up in LMS as a 128 CBR files. Maybe LMS can't handle FLAC in an OGG container. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa wrote: > Why does this URL have "localhost:8080" (which is the PC running VLC) > rather than "icecast.as34763.net" which is in the referred links ? Quite right it was the wrong link. Tried again with the 80s station using http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg in Foobar but it didn't connect to anything. I will try later +---+ |Filename: Selection_014.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14616| +---+ SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
SlimChances wrote: > Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log > for details. Why does this URL have "localhost:8080" (which is the PC running VLC) rather than "icecast.as34763.net" which is in the referred links ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
SlimChances wrote: > Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: > > Your input can't be opened: > VLC is unable to open the MRL > 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log > for details. Just copied the 80s link and opened in foobar2000 and it plays (and is showing as a FLAC file). Some of the other links don't work at all (so must be off at the moment?) File path : http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Getting this output when I try to play in VLC: Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://localhost:8080/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg'. Check the log for details. SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
SlimChances wrote: > As far as I can tell none of these links work. Tried 3 of them in Tune > In with no output (what is the operating times for stations EST) Forgive the Columbo "Oh, Sir, just one more thing," but when you copied those links, you *did* right-click to do so, right? Ellipses make a poor substitute for actual URL information sent to the servers. Btw, as of this post, http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg (Absolute Radio 80s) is working (in any -decent- media player: VLC media player, foobar2000, and mplayer qualify). Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
SlimChances wrote: > As far as I can tell none of these links work. Tried 3 of them in Tune > In with no output (what is the operating times for stations EST) Your guess is as good as mine. There is no set schedule for when Absolute plays these streams. As I say in the title of this reply, supply follows demand. Unless more of us tune in, there is less incentive for them to turn on (more regularly). I prefer late night and the wee hours of the morning (London time), only because that's when they play more of the off-beat and just plain cool. Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Memford wrote: > (All streams below are playable in VLC media player and latest stable > version of foobar2000 *but note, these streams don't run 24/7, but they > probably would if more people used them besides myself and a handful of > others*). > > Absolute Radio > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/arflac.ogg > > Absolute Classic Rock > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/acflac.ogg > > Absolute Radio 60s > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a6flac.ogg > > Absolute Radio 70s > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a7flac.ogg > > Absolute Radio 80s > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a8flac.ogg > > Absolute Radio 90s > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a9flac.ogg > > Absolute Radio Noughties > http://icecast.as34763.net/absoluteradio.co.uk/a0flac.ogg As far as I can tell none of these links work SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
JJZolx wrote: > Adrian, is the patch working for you? I've just applied it to 7.7.2 and > can't play the 'blankety-blank-blank (link removed to avoid > error-on-posting message)' URL. Trying to play it from the web UI on the > Touch I see Connecting.../Buffering xx% displayed in the NP screen. In > the web UI it shows '128kbps CBR, OGG Internet Radio'. > > Do you have any of the actual URLs for the Absolute Radio streams? This is a good question, to which I'm determined to find the answer. Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Triode;682161 Wrote:
> I don't normally use the osx install, but it looks like it is installed
> at:
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server
>
> So download the server patch from the bug, open a terminal session and
> cd to the folder above then,
> patch -p0 < {name of patch file}
>
> You may need to be root to do that and/or need to fix the permissions.
>
> Then restart the server.
Ok, that sounds easy enough ...
It also seems to work fine (much better than the hack using mplayer)
:)
Thanks a lot for your help! :)
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Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
copperstate;682068 Wrote:
> I would like to test the patch, too. What do I need to do to get it up
> and running with LMS 7.7.2 - r33761 running on Mac OS X 10.6.8?
> :confused:
I don't normally use the osx install, but it looks like it is installed
at:
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server
So download the server patch from the bug, open a terminal session and
cd to the folder above then,
patch -p0 < {name of patch file}
You may need to be root to do that and/or need to fix the permissions.
Then restart the server.
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Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Triode;681733 Wrote: > Does anyone know of more OggFlac streams other than the ones mentioned > on this thread: > http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac > + absolute radio ones: > http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/listen/on-other-devices.html > > I've been looking at adding support in the server for these (patches > attached to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12893) but I > would like to see if there are any other streams to test against. I would like to test the patch, too. What do I need to do to get it up and running with LMS 7.7.2 - r33761 running on Mac OS X 10.6.8? :confused: -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
andyg;681741 Wrote: > Heh, while adding official support for FLAC streams is great, I expect > we'll hear even more complaints about buffering. :) I hope these radio > providers can handle the bandwidth! Lets find more than one existing stream before worrying about that. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Heh, while adding official support for FLAC streams is great, I expect we'll hear even more complaints about buffering. :) I hope these radio providers can handle the bandwidth! -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Does anyone know of more OggFlac streams other than the ones mentioned on this thread: http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac + absolute radio ones: http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/listen/on-other-devices.html I've been looking at adding support in the server for these (patches attached to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12893) but I would like to see if there are any other streams to test against. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
JJZolx;681742 Wrote: > Lets find more than one existing stream before worrying about that. Well there are 5 absolute ones in the uk. Plus the cesnet.cz one. Hopefully the server would be configured to refuse connections if the number of users exceeds the local capacity of the host. So the main issues will be with internet performance between you and the streaming provider. In the case of the Absolute streams they peer direct to my isp at the local internet exchange (linx) - so the performance is only down to their network and my isp's network. Cesnet.cz also look to be directly connected to my isp at the Prague internet exchange (nix.cz). Both work for me... -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Check that. It finally began playing, but plays poorly here with a lot of breakups and buffering. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Adrian, is the patch working for you? I've just applied it to 7.7.2 and can't play the 'http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac' URL. Trying to play it from the web UI on the Touch I see Connecting.../Buffering xx% displayed in the NP screen. In the web UI it shows '128kbps CBR, OGG Internet Radio'. Do you have any of the actual URLs for the Absolute Radio streams? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Any way to test this on files rather than streams? For testing, I re-encoded some FLAC files into Ogg FLAC, but haven't been able to get the scanner to pick them up. With .ogg or .oga extensions the scanner throws 'Unable to read tags from file' errors, and with .ogf extensions the files are skipped. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Ok, here is a first version that should work both on MacOS X and Linux (no Windows support yet). For MacOS X it assumes the MPlayer OSX Extended.app to be in /Applications/MPlayer/. Tested on a Intel MacMini with MacOS X 10.6.3 & SBS 7.6 installed. :) +---+ |Filename: OggFlac.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9855| +---+ -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Thanks! :) I use the binary from the MPlayer OSX Extended.app (and have patched the filepath accordingly). I will upload the plugin later on. P.S.: What files would I have add if I were to decide on a "real" repository later on? -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
No problem. I think the mplayer.sh may be a bit old when handling mplayer paths for OSX but if it works then it is not a problem. Ideally the plugin should work for Windows, Linux and OSX. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Hi bpa, would it be ok if I were to upload a plugin based on your aacplus plugin? :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
I played some with it and it now plays fine. :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Copperstate, What does the custom-convert.conf file you are using look like ? Are you using the Windows version with #PIPE# ? If you are using the OSX version what are the contents of the mplayer.sh file you are using. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Copperstate, What does the custom-convert.conf file you are using look like ? Are you using the Windows version with #PIPE# ? If you are using the OSX version what are the contents of the mplayer.sh file you are using. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
The stream seams to be connecting fine, but I am not hearing anything. Is there a specific mplayer version to be used (MacOS X 10.6.3, SBS 7.6.0-r30726)? -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
lauret;542670 Wrote: > I've tried this on my Ubuntu machine (without the .sh in mplayer.sh), > but it appears I don't have /dev/fd/3. *man fd* did not help me either. > > > When putting on the stream it tries to buffer all the time and I can > hear only loud glitches Your problem is that you are not using the mplayer.sh shell script. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
andyg;503011 Wrote: > Give us a break... Since it appears more stations than one are trying > this out it probably makes sense for us to look at this again. Please > note that if/when we do add support for OggFLAC it will only be for > Radio and Touch, not the older players. Great! Please don't forget us old fashioned guys and (eventually) add transcoding support for the older players, too. :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
andyg;503011 Wrote: > Give us a break... Since it appears more stations than one are trying > this out it probably makes sense for us to look at this again. Please > note that if/when we do add support for OggFLAC it will only be for > Radio and Touch, not the older players. So, is it not physically possible on the older players, or have they been EOLed for firmware updates? Cody -- reverber reverber's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa;461234 Wrote: > Operator error - after adding the new rule, I forgot to disable OGG > "native" decoding. > > Streams play OK on 7.4.1 with the following conf line which is for > Linux > > > Code: > > > > ogg flc * * > # R > [mplayer.sh] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=/dev/fd/3 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --ignore-chunk-sizes - > > > I've tried this on my Ubuntu machine (without the .sh in mplayer.sh), but it appears I don't have /dev/fd/3. *man fd* did not help me either. When putting on the stream it tries to buffer all the time and I can hear only loud glitches -- lauret lauret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17632 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Give us a break... Since it appears more stations than one are trying this out it probably makes sense for us to look at this again. Please note that if/when we do add support for OggFLAC it will only be for Radio and Touch, not the older players. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Very sad that this does not work on the SB's, the radio channel(s) I enjoy most has just started streaming in lossless flag/ogg :-( The new channels are all Absolute Radio's 4 channels(From UK), sounds great on my PC, but I did not buy my 3 SB's to sit lifeless while I listen to Internet radio from my PC, come on Logitech, prove that chosing SB over Sonos was the right choiche if one wants high quality audio. Links to Absolute Radio & Absolute Classic Rock: http://icecast.as34763.net/vrflac.ogg http://icecast.as34763.net/vcflac.ogg -- bebop Regards Bebop SC 7.3.x on Ubuntu 8.02(on old Dell D600 laptop), Duet SBC&SBR + Boom1 + Boom2 bebop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17061 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Be careful about multiple "flc flc" lines. The second line "# F" , "# R " or "# I" relate to different types of traffic - remote, file and stdin respectively. If one of the "flc flc" rules does not have a "#F" type 2nd line then it will apply to all Flc->flc and may override an earlier "flc flc" with "# R". I don't think the "flc flc" rules will be applied if you have the ogg rule implemented. However, to be on the safe side I think you should have 3 sets of "flc flc" rules - one for each type of traffic and so you are sure which rule will be applied to a flac file vs a flac stream. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
I now added both lines, "flc flc" and "ogg flc" and it seems to work all the time, no matter what mood SBS is in. ;-) -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa;470111 Wrote: > Did you add these lines into convert.conf or did you change the "flc flc > * *" line ? I added them in a custom-convert.conf. But I just noticed that it is not working 100%. When I restart SBS and play the FLAC stream right away it works. When I have played a couple of other streams and FLAC files it suddenly stops working. The error message is Problem: Can't open file format. Does this refer to what you experienced earlier? > > Something strange - second time I tried - it has treated stream as > OGG. > -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Did you add these lines into convert.conf or did you change the "flc flc * *" line ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
I investigated a bit more time and now my FLAC live stream is back. The command line for Windows has to be changed to this in order to get it run on 7.4: Code: flc flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 256 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=48000 --compression-level-0 - My question left is: does the code above just handle FLAC streams coming in an OGG container as it is intended to do or is it somehow harmful to a smooth use of Squeezebox Server (eg what is the impact on FLAC files)? -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Nope, I don't have enough skills. :-( The Controller gets stuck at "Buffering 1%" and there is no sound. This happens in both cases, when mplayer is involved and also when I try to play the stream out-of-the-box without any manual adjustments. Anyone who gets this to work for me on Windows XP gets a free hug. ;-) -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Operator error - after adding the new rule, I forgot to disable OGG "native" decoding. Streams play OK on 7.4.1 with the following conf line which is for Linux Code: ogg flc * * # R [mplayer.sh] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=/dev/fd/3 $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --ignore-chunk-sizes - -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
At quick look at what is happening so it may be wrong. It seems SC is ignoring the application/ogg MIME type and just using the extension and has decided the stream is a Flac stream and not an OGG stream and so the new rules is not applied. Earlier version of SC used the MIME type application/ogg to trigger the OGG-Flac rule. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Hi there Unfortunately the hack doesn't work anymore with 7.4. Could one of the pros give me a hint what I will have to change on these lines to make it work again? D-dur in FLAC turned out to be my favored classical station. (I don't care if OGG files are not playable and all the OGG streams I'm listening to are 48kHz.) Code: ogg flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 256 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=48000 --compression-level-0 - Thanks! -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Yes, they are very good. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7520SE (Caiman) - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Just wanted to say that the station's (D-Dur) homepage has a fantastic free flac download offer of the 6 Brandenburg Concertos by Musica Florea. They sound fantastic. http://www.rozhlas.cz/d-dur/english Will vote for the bug as soon as my Bugzilla account is created. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks Andy. I will have to be patient! -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7520SE (Caiman) - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Yeah this is really interesting to me too, but we just don't have time to work on it right now. I have filed an enhancement though: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12893 -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
So what's the answer for the relatively non technical? When will SB stream http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac I have just set up my new Beresford Caiman to use Foobar with WASPI from my laptop into the USB input. Foobar will stream http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac and that station is amazing. When, O when Squeezebox gurus? -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7520SE (Caiman) - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Boom in kitchen. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
amcluesent;443476 Wrote:
> I was meaning the sample rate parameter to the flac command needs to be
> matched to 48000, so in convert.conf I commented out this
>
> >
Code:
> >
> #ogg flc * *
> # # IFRD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
> # [sox] -t ogg $FILE$ -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
>
> >
>
> and replaced with this
>
> >
Code:
> >
> ogg flc * *
> # R
> [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 512 -af
volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs
--totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16
--sample-rate=48000 --compression-level-0 -
>
> >
>
> Restart Squeezcenter, then in the filetypes menu, I set the FLAC
> handling of Ogg Vorbis to be "mplayer/flac" from the dropdown options
> and disabled the others.
>
> The Squeezebox display shows 128kbps, but I assume that's just an
> aberration.
Ah - that's it. Thanks.
Phileas
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Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
A word of warning - the suggested 48000 solution will makew Flac assume all streams from mplayer are 48kHz so that if you try to play a stream with 44.1kHz you will get speed problems. A proper solution would be to have mplayer send a WAV header so that sample rates are matched. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
I was meaning the sample rate parameter to the flac command needs to be matched to 48000, so in convert.conf: Code: ogg flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 512 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=48000 --compression-level-0 - Restart Squeezcenter, then in the filetypes menu, I set the FLAC handling of Ogg to be mplayer from the dropdown options and disabled the others. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
amcluesent;441315 Wrote: > I removed the 'resample=44100:0:1' directive from mplayer and set the > flac parameter to 48000. Sorry if this seems a silly question, but where's this flac parameter - on the same line? Is this line of code all I'm supposed to do to get the stream playable? I'm only getting silence at the moment and a reported (in SC) bitrate of 128kb/s OGG. Do I have to disable some of the other options in conv.conf? Phileas -- Phileas Phileas Lounge:PC>SB3>Benchmark DAC1>Audiolab 8000P>Focal 714v Study:PC/SoftSqueeze>Beresford TC7510>Sennhiser HD580/Audiolab 8000A>Mission 70 Bedroom:PC>Boom Phileas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
fitcaz;442417 Wrote: > Perhaps you could send me the modified plugin file? I can send you the plugin I created. It is not part of AlienBBC anymore, it is a plugin on its own based on bpa's AACplus plugin. (I hope he doesn't mind.) Bear in mind that it is quite an ugly hack and you will lose support for OGG files. I don't have any of them, so it's not a problem for me. I don't have web space, give me your e-mail by PM and you will get the plugin. cheers Quad -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Quad, I too found the Czech station trial when looking for a lossless broadcasts, but could not get through to my hifi via squeezebox. Not being quite so tech savvy on this, how did you fix it to listen to D-dur. Did you just edit the Alien plugin? If so how? Perhaps you could send me the modified plugin file? Ta Caz -- fitcaz fitcaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31722 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
bpa: SC doesn't have any support for parsing an Ogg stream to extract the metadata. That's only in the firmware. Will look at firmware OggFLAC support at some point in the future. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Thanks for trying that! I think the best way to fully implement OggFlac with metadata would be to wait until sox will support that format. Unfortunately it doesn't at the moment. I'm listening to D-dur at the moment. And my brother is listening to my personal lossless icecast stream. What a joy! -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Unlike http/icy streams, mplayer doesn't seems to decode the metadata. That said, feeding mplayer metadata back into SC is v. hard. Prior to 7.3.3 for AACplus support - I used a trick where SC stripped the transport protocol and extracted metadata for display on players and then fed the raw audio stream into mplayer to decode into PCM. I quickly tried the same approach with the ogg/flac. It didn't work as SC seems to get confused (this is not an expected setup) and wanted to play the stream directly. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
amcluesent;441315 Wrote: > foobar2000 reported that the native stream was 48000Hz, so I removed the > 'resample=44100:0:1' directive from mplayer and set the flac parameter > to 48000. Thanks for that! A metadata question arised: The OGG stream of D-dur used to have tags if played with native OGG support. If played with mplayer tags are gone. Is there a possibility to make mplayer show tags in Squeezecenter (for OGG and OggFlac)? -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
>You can add the lines into the convert.conf file...< working! foobar2000 reported that the native stream was 48000Hz, so I removed the 'resample=44100:0:1' directive from mplayer. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
You can add the lines into the convert.conf file and they will take effect at next SC restart. You will need mplayer to be installed on the Windows path or in the SC Bin\MSwin32... directory (same location as faad.exe and socketwrapper.exe). However if added to convert.conf, the line will be lost when next version of SC is installed. Code: ogg flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 - -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
>There is a workaround which keeps me happy for the moment. I added this line to the AlienBBC plugin and it works!< Is it possible to edit something similar into convert.conf so Squeezecenter can handle the stream without the AleienBBC plug-in? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
You might be able to do it using Virtual Audio Cable ( http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html )and possibly VLC if icecast doesn't work. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
dsdreamer;440735 Wrote: > More generally, your hack provides a method of slaving Squeezecenter to > another media player, with ogg/flac as the lossless stream format > between the two systems. I'm fine with controlling Squeezecenter by a SBC but just for the sake of the fun I installed icecast and the edcast plugin for foobar. It works well for OggFlac streams *happy*. Basically this set up does for me what the wave input plugin already does but there would be one advantage over the wave plugin: If edcast for foobar would bypass my cheap built in soundcard and catch PCM information directly from foobar. The standalone version of edcast simply captures whatever is playing on the soundcard, so does the wave input plugin. What about edcast for foobar? I can see a promising dialog saying "Recording from DSP"... -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Quad;440524 Wrote: > Thank you guys! > > According to D-dur itself they are the only station which is streaming > in FLAC and it is in an experimental stage. So starting an enhancement > request would be overreacting. > > There is a workaround which keeps me happy for the moment. I added this > line to the AlienBBC plugin and it works! > > ogg flc * * > # R > [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 > -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao > pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent > --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 > --compression-level-0 - > > One more question left: I disabled AIFF, MP3 and native support for OGG > file types. There is just mplayer/flac activated. Does this mean that > regular OGG live strems are transcoded by mplayer aswell? If so, is > there any negative point about that? > > Thanks again. Internet radio in FLAC, that's what I am dreaming of! I tried something along those lines but failed, so kudos to you for making it work. Another use for this, would be to receive your own Icecast transmissions from Winamp or MediaMonkey, thereby allowing one of those programs to be the front-end controlling what is to be played through your Squeezebox-equipped audio system. More generally, your hack provides a method of slaving SqueezeCenter to another media player, with ogg/flac as the lossless stream format between the two systems. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Quad;440524 Wrote: > Thank you guys! > > According to D-dur itself they are the only station which is streaming > in FLAC and it is in an experimental stage. So starting an enhancement > request would be overreacting. > > There is a workaround which keeps me happy for the moment. I added this > line to the AlienBBC plugin and it works! > > ogg flc * * > # R > [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 > -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao > pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent > --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 > --compression-level-0 - > > One more question left: I disabled AIFF, MP3 and native support for OGG > file types. There is just mplayer/flac activated. Does this mean that > regular OGG live strems are transcoded by mplayer aswell? If so, is > there any negative point about that? > > Thanks again. Internet radio in FLAC, that's what I am dreaming of! I tried something along those lines but failed, so kudos to you for making it work. Another use for this, would be to receive your own Icecast transmissions from Winamp or MediaMonkey, thereby allowing one of those programs to be the front-end controlling what is to be played through your Squeezebox. More generally, your hack provides a method of slaving Squeezecenter to another media player, with ogg/flac as the lossless stream format between the two systems. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
mplayer will handle ogg / flac and ogg/vorbis so it is good compromise for live streams. Not sure what will happen with files - it depends on the "# F " rule.. Disabling mp3 disables the ogg / flac and ogg/vorbis transcoding into MP3 which would be necessary to have lower bitrate to a player. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Thank you guys! According to D-dur itself they are the only station which is streaming in FLAC and it is in an experimental stage. So starting an enhancement request would be overreacting. There is a workaround which keeps me happy for the moment. I added this line to the AlienBBC plugin and it works! ogg flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 -cache 128 -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1,channels=2 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --endian=little --channels=2 --sign=signed --bps=16 --sample-rate=44100 --compression-level-0 - One more question left: I disabled AIFF, MP3 and native support for OGG file types. There is just mplayer/flac activated. Does this mean that regular OGG live strems are transcoded by mplayer aswell? If so, is there any negative point about that? Thanks again. Internet radio in FLAC, that's what am dreaming about! -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
Nope, firmware doesn't have libogg or OggFLAC support. :( The flac binary can handle this stream but requires the --ogg switch for decoding (it doesn't auto-detect). -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Looks like the FLAC decoder has built-in support for OggFLAC. It may just be a matter of getting SC to detect it and tell the player to decode with FLAC instead of Vorbis. I'm curious now so will look at that soon. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
That's pretty cool. Unfortunately we don't support OggFLAC :( Can you file an enhancement request? Would be cool to support that in firmware, but probably a lot of work for one station. A transcoding solution is more realistic. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
The stream identifies its types as "application/ogg" which SC type.conf has been set up to play as OGG. As OGG/Vorgis is a supported format - your stream will be sent to SB which will try to decode it as Vorbis not flac. If you disable native OGG/Vorbis decoding in Setting/Advanced/Filetypes - then your stream will be directed to the OGG decoding rules which will try to use sox to decode. Howecver I don't know if sox supports playing streams (it doesn't support ogg/flac files) so unless you play OGG/Vorbis streams - your best chance would be rewrite the OGG rules to possibly use flac from stdin or MPLAYER from the URL -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
All I understood is that there is FLAC coming in an OGG container, so I've been messing around with types.conf and convert.conf. I don't have a clue what I'm doing, just trial and error. Without success so far... But I'm afraid that it's not that easy. Can anybody confirm that it's not possible to stream FLAC by URL? Like this I could stop wasting my time ;-) -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] lossless internet radio streaming in FLAC!
I would love being able to listen to this lossless radio stream: http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac It works well with foobar. Is there a way to make it work with my Squeezebox? Here you can find more information about this lossless broadcasting project http://www.cesnet.cz/doc/techzpravy/2008/using-flac-encoding/ Any help is appreciated! -- Quad CD => EAC => FLAC => SC 7.3.3 => SB Duet => DacMagic => Quad77 pre amp => Quad707 power amp => Quad 21L speakers Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
