Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-25 Thread John Hernandez
Michael Peters wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:20:40 -0800, Phillip Kerman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought cracking WEP was relatively easy too.

It's not cake to crack - it takes collecting data for as long as a
month or so in order to have enough to do it. Sure, it can be done,
but it's a whole lot easier to just find one of the many unprotected
networks.
Given typical SB data rates and usage patterns, I don't believe it would 
take very long to have enough data to compromise a WEP key in this 
application.  The cracking tools are fairly idiot-proof.  That said, WEP 
+ MAC-filtering is the best you can currently do, and it's probably 
worth doing.

One possible alternative would be to make the SB wireless network 
unroutable (ie. no gateway for Internet access).  That would make the 
network a very unattractive target.  In this case, you might want a 
second NIC in your slimserver if that box also needs external access.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-25 Thread neil . coburn
I had similar problems which were solved by using 64 bit WEP instead of
128 bit.



>
> I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
> question...
>
> I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a Linksys
> WRT45G
> (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit.
> DHCP
> addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones
> in
> the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
>
> After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
> encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
> half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
> were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
> before stopping and rebooting again.
>
> Bummer.
>
> I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
> sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
> reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
> helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.
>
> What's the final upshot on this problem?
>
> I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the meantime,
> and
> it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> RE
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
>> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
>> To: Slim Devices Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
>>
>>
>> I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
>> 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
>> interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
>> on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
>> mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
>> internet radio anywhere in my house.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > > I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
>> the bandwidth
>> > > requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
>> outperformed my
>> > > expectations.
>> >
>> > Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
>> > newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
>> > wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
>> > lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
>> > the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
>> > my experience.
>> >
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Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Michael Peters
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:20:40 -0800, Phillip Kerman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I thought cracking WEP was relatively easy too.

It's not cake to crack - it takes collecting data for as long as a
month or so in order to have enough to do it. Sure, it can be done,
but it's a whole lot easier to just find one of the many unprotected
networks.

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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Phillip Kerman
> 
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:26:03 -0700, John Hernandez 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a datapoint, you may try turning off WEP.  I'm not 
> suggesting this as
> > a good long-term solution, but you might consider something like MAC
> > filtering if WEP is indeed the problem with your particular setup.
> 
> I don't have my squeezebox yet and I'm getting the wired version
> (though slimserver is on a wireless box) - I would like to note that
> it is rather trivial to sniff both MAC address and SSID key even if
> SSID is not broadcast and MAC filtering is on. That may not be a
> concern - I don't have WEP on myself, I'm not worried about people
> using my connection for illegal stuff etc. but there are tools
> specifically designed to take advantage of non encryption protected
> networks, if you live where there are a lot of people going buy, etc.
> or in an apartment, you may not want to disable WEP, last thing you
> want is your IP associated with a child porn sting.
> 
> Turning WEP off might help diagnose the problem though, maybe you
> should try 64 instead of 128?


I thought cracking WEP was relatively easy too.  I can't make my SB wireless
work if I have WEP turned on.

Thanks,
Phillip

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Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Michael Peters
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:26:03 -0700, John Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a datapoint, you may try turning off WEP.  I'm not suggesting this as
> a good long-term solution, but you might consider something like MAC
> filtering if WEP is indeed the problem with your particular setup.

I don't have my squeezebox yet and I'm getting the wired version
(though slimserver is on a wireless box) - I would like to note that
it is rather trivial to sniff both MAC address and SSID key even if
SSID is not broadcast and MAC filtering is on. That may not be a
concern - I don't have WEP on myself, I'm not worried about people
using my connection for illegal stuff etc. but there are tools
specifically designed to take advantage of non encryption protected
networks, if you live where there are a lot of people going buy, etc.
or in an apartment, you may not want to disable WEP, last thing you
want is your IP associated with a child porn sting.

Turning WEP off might help diagnose the problem though, maybe you
should try 64 instead of 128?


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Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread John Hernandez
As a datapoint, you may try turning off WEP.  I'm not suggesting this as 
a good long-term solution, but you might consider something like MAC 
filtering if WEP is indeed the problem with your particular setup.

Ben Gladstone wrote:
ralph, just a thought, and i'm vague on the details, but i've seen
situations where two "802.11" products will not talk reliably to each
other
hence the non-profit www.wi-fi.org, which created the "Wi-fi"
certification mark for the subset of 802.11 products that have been
tested as interoperable. 

if both ends of the network (perhaps all devices on it?) are not "wi-fi"
certified, you may have incompatible devices
hopefully others with better knowledge can cut in at this point...
-ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph
Edington
Sent: 24 February 2005 21:34
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.
My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a
factor, one would think.
It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network
is hardwired to B only.
-d_protocol log shows:
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision
= 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response
Any other debugging I could set that will help?
I will try different channels and see if that helps.
Any help is still appreciated.
RE

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a 
neighbor 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the 
access point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short 
of a lease time to the squeezebox.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph 
Edington
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and 
ask a question...

I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  
Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a 
good 90%.  No wireless phones in the house, and the microwave, when 
on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.

I saw the problem where there were multiple back-to-back reboots, 
the reconnect countdown getting to 10 before stopping and rebooting 
again.

Bummer.
I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any

sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of

this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP 
addressing helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

What's the final upshot on this problem?
I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the 
meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many 
hours yet.

Thanks,
RE

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy 
Owen
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience

I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
SB.  I have
2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's
are
on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do
stream
mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
internet radio anywhere in my house.


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
the bandwidth
requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
outperformed my
expectations.
Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to
the newcomers
and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless
performance
and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  
If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven
to be quite
robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ben Gladstone
ralph, just a thought, and i'm vague on the details, but i've seen
situations where two "802.11" products will not talk reliably to each
other

hence the non-profit www.wi-fi.org, which created the "Wi-fi"
certification mark for the subset of 802.11 products that have been
tested as interoperable. 

if both ends of the network (perhaps all devices on it?) are not "wi-fi"
certified, you may have incompatible devices

hopefully others with better knowledge can cut in at this point...

-ben

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph
Edington
Sent: 24 February 2005 21:34
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.

My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a
factor, one would think.

It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network
is hardwired to B only.

-d_protocol log shows:

2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision
= 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response

Any other debugging I could set that will help?

I will try different channels and see if that helps.

Any help is still appreciated.

RE

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
>
>
> Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a 
> neighbor 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.
>
> One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the 
> access point and see if it has an impact on the problem.
>
> Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short 
> of a lease time to the squeezebox.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph 
> > Edington
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
> >
> >
> > I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and 
> > ask a question...
> >
> > I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
> > Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  
> > Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a 
> > good 90%.  No wireless phones in the house, and the microwave, when 
> > on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
> >
> > After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
> > immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
> > reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.

> > I saw the problem where there were multiple back-to-back reboots, 
> > the reconnect countdown getting to 10 before stopping and rebooting 
> > again.
> >
> > Bummer.
> >
> > I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any

> > sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of

> > this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP 
> > addressing helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.
> >
> > What's the final upshot on this problem?
> >
> > I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the 
> > meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many 
> > hours yet.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > RE
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy 
> > > Owen
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
> > > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
> > >
> > >
> > > I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
> > SB.  I have
> > > 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
> > > interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's
are
> > > on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do
stream
> > > mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
> > > internet radio anywhere in my house.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 24/2/05 at 11:37 am -0800, Ralph Edington wrote
I saw the problem where there
were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
before stopping and rebooting again.
I don't know anything about spontaneous reboots - has never happened 
with me, except when my computer has been asleep for a long time - or 
multiple ones, if multiple means more than two.

But the double reboot with countdown to 10 (I've never understood why 
it doesn't countdown to 0) is common, there is a specific reason for 
it, I'm not quite sure what but it isn't a bug. It's something to do 
with the Squeezebox trying one method of connecting, failing to 
connect, and then using a different method that does work.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington
Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.

My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a factor,
one would think.

It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network is
hardwired to B only.

-d_protocol log shows:

2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision =
2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response

Any other debugging I could set that will help?

I will try different channels and see if that helps.

Any help is still appreciated.

RE

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
> To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
>
>
> Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a neighbor
> 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.
>
> One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the access
> point and see if it has an impact on the problem.
>
> Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short of a
> lease time to the squeezebox.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Ralph Edington
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
> >
> >
> > I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience
> > and ask a question...
> >
> > I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a
> > Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the
> > defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal
> > strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in the
> > house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
> >
> > After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I
> > immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox
> > reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two
> > hours.  I saw the problem where there were multiple
> > back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
> > before stopping and rebooting again.
> >
> > Bummer.
> >
> > I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't
> > see any sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the
> > cause/solution of this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to
> > indicate that static IP addressing helped, but another
> > reported that that didn't solve it.
> >
> > What's the final upshot on this problem?
> >
> > I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in
> > the meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for
> > that many hours yet.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > RE
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
> > > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
> > >
> > >
> > > I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
> > SB.  I have
> > > 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
> > > interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
> > > on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
> > > mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
> > > internet radio anywhere in my house.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
> > > the bandwidth
> > > > > requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
> > > outperformed my
> > > > > expectations.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to
> > the newcomers
> > > > and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless
> > performance
> > > > and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  If
> > > > you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven
> > to be quite
> &

RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Jason
Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a neighbor
100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the access
point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short of a
lease time to the squeezebox. 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Ralph Edington
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
> 
> 
> I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience 
> and ask a question...
> 
> I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
> Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the 
> defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal 
> strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in the 
> house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
> 
> After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
> immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
> reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two 
> hours.  I saw the problem where there were multiple 
> back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10 
> before stopping and rebooting again.
> 
> Bummer.
> 
> I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't 
> see any sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the 
> cause/solution of this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to 
> indicate that static IP addressing helped, but another 
> reported that that didn't solve it.
> 
> What's the final upshot on this problem?
> 
> I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in 
> the meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for 
> that many hours yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> RE
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
> >
> >
> > I too would like to report a good experience with wireless 
> SB.  I have
> > 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
> > interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
> > on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
> > mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
> > internet radio anywhere in my house.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
> > the bandwidth
> > > > requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
> > outperformed my
> > > > expectations.
> > >
> > > Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to 
> the newcomers 
> > > and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless 
> performance 
> > > and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  If 
> > > you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven 
> to be quite 
> > > robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daryle A. Tilroe
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington
wups I meant wrt54g not wrt45g of course

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ralph
> Edington
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:38 AM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
>
>
>
> I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
> question...
>
> I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a
> Linksys WRT45G
> (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP
> 128-bit. DHCP
> addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless
> phones in
> the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
>
> After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
> encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
> half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
> were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
> before stopping and rebooting again.
>
> Bummer.
>
> I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
> sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
> reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
> helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.
>
> What's the final upshot on this problem?
>
> I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the
> meantime, and
> it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> RE
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
> > To: Slim Devices Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
> >
> >
> > I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
> > 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
> > interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
> > on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
> > mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
> > internet radio anywhere in my house.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
> > the bandwidth
> > > > requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
> > outperformed my
> > > > expectations.
> > >
> > > Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
> > > newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
> > > wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
> > > lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
> > > the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
> > > my experience.
> > >
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington

I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
question...

I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a Linksys WRT45G
(v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP
addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in
the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
before stopping and rebooting again.

Bummer.

I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

What's the final upshot on this problem?

I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the meantime, and
it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.

Thanks,

RE

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
>
>
> I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
> 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
> interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
> on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
> mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
> internet radio anywhere in my house.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
> the bandwidth
> > > requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
> outperformed my
> > > expectations.
> >
> > Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
> > newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
> > wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
> > lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
> > the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
> > my experience.
> >
> > --
> > Daryle A. Tilroe
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