Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread kdf
>

> Or even a 'localised' version for us anglophones?

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4828

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread bklaas

this has come up in the past...my two cents:

the English spell it 'centre'
the Americans spell it 'center'

SqueezeCenter, however, is a *product*. If you spelled it
SqueezeCentre, there is no product with that name, and is therefore
'incorrect'.

Another way of putting it:
SqueezeCenter in Italian is SqueezeCenter
SqueezeCenter in Dutch is SqueezeCenter
SqueezeCenter in German is SqueezeCenter
SqueezeCenter in French is SqueezeCenter

Anglophiles, does that put this matter to rest?

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Fifer

We'll just stick with SlimServer in that case. :)


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Mark Lanctot

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Phil Leigh

Fifer;261807 Wrote: 
> We'll just stick with SlimServer in that case. :)

Exactly! Squeeze Center / Centre is a silly name anyway.
SqueezeManager or SqueezeCommander or SqueezePortal would be better
IMHO..


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote:
> Exactly! Squeeze Center / Centre is a silly name anyway.
> SqueezeManager or SqueezeCommander or SqueezePortal would be better
> IMHO..

Big companies spend zillions on branding and product names.

I hope that Dean, Sean and a few of the folks just went out for beer and 
picked it. It could be a million dollar ++ name

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread autopilot

Trust us silly old English to speak English! 


But TBH, I dont really care.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Robin Bowes
bklaas wrote:
> this has come up in the past...my two cents:
> 
> the English spell it 'centre'
> the Americans spell it 'center'
> 
> SqueezeCenter, however, is a *product*. If you spelled it
> SqueezeCentre, there is no product with that name, and is therefore
> 'incorrect'.
> 
> Another way of putting it:
> SqueezeCenter in Italian is SqueezeCenter
> SqueezeCenter in Dutch is SqueezeCenter
> SqueezeCenter in German is SqueezeCenter
> SqueezeCenter in French is SqueezeCenter
> 
> Anglophiles, does that put this matter to rest?


No, because you got it wrong in the first place. Imagine how idyllic 
life could have been:

SqueezeCentre, however, is a *product*. If you spelled it
SqueezeCenter, there is no product with that name, and is therefore
'incorrect'.

Another way of putting it:
SqueezeCentre in Italian is SqueezeCentre
SqueezeCentre in Dutch is SqueezeCentre
SqueezeCentre in German is SqueezeCentre
SqueezeCentre in French is SqueezeCentre

;)

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Secret Squirrel

autopilot;261827 Wrote: 
> Trust us silly old English to speak English! 
> 
> 
> But TBH, I dont really care.

Yeah, the English speak better than us Yanks, but they can't spell for
a darn ;)

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread MikeWynneDub

On balance, I'd have to agree with the argument that 'SqueezeCenter' is
the actual product name and, as such, I'll stick with it...

Interesting to note, though, that the 'issue' has alread been addressed
by third parties.

'Center' does catch/hurt my eye though...

Btw, last night's SqueezeCenter was my first download of v7 and I
really like it...


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread bobharp

Pat Farrell;261818 Wrote: 
> Phil Leigh wrote:
> > Exactly! Squeeze Center / Centre is a silly name anyway.
> > SqueezeManager or SqueezeCommander or SqueezePortal would be better
> > IMHO..
> 
> Big companies spend zillions on branding and product names.
> 
> I hope that Dean, Sean and a few of the folks just went out for beer
> and 
> picked it. It could be a million dollar ++ name
> 
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Yes we Americans speak Amlish
http://www.accomodata.co.uk/amlish.htm
or
http://www.textfiles.com/fun/brittish.txt

How about the 
SqueezeWii
or 
SqueezeTorch


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Michael Herger
> SqueezeCenter in German is SqueezeCenter

"QuetschZentrum" wouldn't be an option, would it?

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Michael Herger
>> Anglophiles, does that put this matter to rest?
>
> No, because you got it wrong in the first place. Imagine how idyllic
> life could have been:

Wow, you got problems. Interestingly there's no Francophone, Germanophone,  
XYophone discussing. We suffer from these anglicisms in our languages all  
day long. Even worse: we are presented English product names and terms  
which aren't even used in English. Ever heard of "Coke Light"? Doing  
something "fingers in ze nose" (as the French like to say in English :-))?

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread schatzy

I can remember a time when i lived in Banbury England for 4 years. There
was a sign that pointed to "Banbury Center" although be it only a few
days before it got changed.

We Yanks have infiltrated as can be seen by this UK business.

Plumb Center - http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/plumb/index.html

Go get them you anglophiles.

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread autopilot

I think many Americans seem to be under the impression the
British/English care a great deal, which mostly they dont - we know
full well that English is an bastardised illogical mish mash of Old
English, French, Latin and several other languages. Strangely enough,
it seems to often be the case that its the American friends i have 
show the most Confusion and surprise at the they other nations speak
'their' language.

A lot of differences with US English comes from the fact the Europeans
that populated America (who did not speak English) had to adopt it - so
it was slightly simplified and many words are spelt more phonetically.
I.e. they could not understand why there would be a 'u' in colour
(color) so simply dropped it. Some changes makes perfect sense, some
don't. 

Anyway... i was under the impression that Centre and Center are both
acceptable in the UK - but have slightly different situations. Might be
wrong, but i though we had a 'Community Center' and the 'Centre of a
circle' etc (or other way around).

Like i said, really dont care but i find it strangely interesting!


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread kolding

Fifer;261807 Wrote: 
> We'll just stick with SlimServer in that case. :)

Shouldn't that be SlimServre?


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread bonze

Phil Leigh;261817 Wrote: 
> Exactly! Squeeze Center / Centre is a silly name anyway.
> SqueezeManager or SqueezeCommander or SqueezePortal would be better
> IMHO..SqueezePortal! with an SBR shaped like a Weighted Companion Cube :D

I'll fetch me coat.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Phil Leigh

bonze;261898 Wrote: 
> SqueezePortal! with an SBR shaped like a Weighted Companion Cube :D
> 
> I'll fetch me coat.

Rotflmao !
Obviously you don't work in IT!


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread DoomWolf

bonze;261898 Wrote: 
> SqueezePortal! with an SBR shaped like a Weighted Companion Cube :D
> 
> I'll fetch me coat.

mmm, cake...

(Totally off topic, I apologise, but someone had to mention cake ;) ).


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Robin Bowes
Michael Herger wrote:
>>> Anglophiles, does that put this matter to rest?
>> No, because you got it wrong in the first place. Imagine how idyllic
>> life could have been:
> 
> Wow, you got problems. Interestingly there's no Francophone, Germanophone,  
> XYophone discussing. We suffer from these anglicisms in our languages all  
> day long. Even worse: we are presented English product names and terms  
> which aren't even used in English. Ever heard of "Coke Light"? Doing  
> something "fingers in ze nose" (as the French like to say in English :-))?

Michael,

Did you miss the ";)" at the bottom of my post?

;)

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-23 Thread Michael Herger
> Did you miss the ";)" at the bottom of my post?

Maybe. But it doesn't matter: the whole discussion is a joke :-).

I just find it interesting to see how Anglophiles can care about their  
language, while we get spoilt with anglicisms. Worst of all some of them  
find their way into our language in a completely false way. Take eg. the  
Saxon genetiv (is this what you call it?) "'s". It's used in any place now  
where you would put a single S: plurals, verbs ending in an s etc. It's so  
stupid I found myself using it too :-/. I remember my German teacher  
giving me a lesson after I had used it in a genetive (where it would have  
been correct at least in English). Ever since I try to avoid it. And this  
must have been almost... gee, I'm getting old.

AFAIK only the French try to fight back by law, forcing any English  
slogan, ad, phrase or whatever to be translated. Which on the other hand  
sometimes looks odd. "Computer" seems so globally accepted, I was very  
much surprised I had to learn "ordinateur" in French.

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread Khuli

Michael Herger;261983 Wrote: 
> Take eg. the Saxon genetiv (is this what you call it?) "'s". It's used
> in any place now  
> where you would put a single S: plurals, verbs ending in an s etc.

As Michael Hergre (sic) mentioned.. IMO this has to be the most
annoying mis-spelling, and seems to be increasingly common. 
(and yes it is a Saxon genitive, though not many people know it's
called that!)


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread bpa

I think it is ironic that the OP probably speaks "Hiberno English" where
we have have own local spellings/phrases.  For example, sometimes using
"ye" instead of "you". Who are we to criticise ?

I can accept spelling variations but my pet hate is typography where
letters in the middle of a word are capitalised (capitalized) as this
is not "proper" English spelling. The capitalisation in 
"SqueezeCenter" emphasises that is a product name rather than a word.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread Robin Bowes
Michael Herger wrote:
>> Did you miss the ";)" at the bottom of my post?
> 
> Maybe. But it doesn't matter: the whole discussion is a joke :-).
> 
> I just find it interesting to see how Anglophiles can care about their  
> language, while we get spoilt with anglicisms. Worst of all some of them  
> find their way into our language in a completely false way. Take eg. the  
> Saxon genetiv (is this what you call it?) "'s". It's used in any place now  
> where you would put a single S: plurals, verbs ending in an s etc. It's so  
> stupid I found myself using it too :-/. I remember my German teacher  
> giving me a lesson after I had used it in a genetive (where it would have  
> been correct at least in English). Ever since I try to avoid it. And this  
> must have been almost... gee, I'm getting old.

That's just bad punctuation - and is a pet hate of mine too.

Others include you're/your, their/they're, etc.

I learned more about the English language in Latin class than I did in 
English class!

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread Peter
bklaas wrote:
> this has come up in the past...my two cents:
>
> the English spell it 'centre'
> the Americans spell it 'center'
>
> SqueezeCenter, however, is a *product*. If you spelled it
>   

Perhaps we should call it SqueezeProduct then?

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread Fifer

Michael Herger;261983 Wrote: 
> the whole discussion is a joke :-).

I think it was intended as such too.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-24 Thread vamythguy
On Jan 24, 2008 7:43 AM, Fifer <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Michael Herger;261983 Wrote:
> > the whole discussion is a joke :-).
>
> I think it was intended as such too.
>
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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-25 Thread dcote

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-25 Thread bobharp

To continue this rant.

How about ..That said, I think we have beat Centre to death.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-25 Thread MikeWynneDub

>
> Michael Herger;261983 Wrote:
> > the whole discussion is a joke :-).
>
> I think it was intended as such too.
>

Precisely...

Frivolous - adjective: Not serious in content or attitude or behavior.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot

Robin Bowes;262019 Wrote: 
> Others include you're/your, their/they're, etc.

What I've seen a lot of, primarily on this forum, is "quite".

"The SB3 is too quite."

The SB3 is too quite what?  Quite cool?  Quite bad?

Oh - you must mean QUIET.

But I'm seeing it -so- often that I'm beginning to use it, which is
very disconcerting.  It's appearing in so many places I believe we'll
start to see it being used officially instead of "quiet".

So how are we going to spell something that's "quite" wrong?  Are we
going to use the same word?  Gee, that's not less confusing, it's MORE
confusing.  Maybe we should use the word "quiet" when "quite" is called
for - have them swap places.  :-)


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-25 Thread bonze

Quiet quite in here tonite ;)


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread Michael Herger
> To tell the truth, I never liked the name "Squeezebox."  It reminded me
> of that song I hate by The Who.  I think they might be British.

The first time I encountered the word "(to) squeeze" must have been in 
Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye", where somebody "squeezed his pimples"...

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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread Kyle

To tell the truth, I never liked the name "Squeezebox."  It reminded me
of that song I hate by The Who.  I think they might be British.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread autopilot

Kyle;262979 Wrote: 
> To tell the truth, I never liked the name "Squeezebox."  It reminded me
> of that song I hate by The Who.  I think they might be British.

I thought that was where the name came from.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread Kyle

autopilot;262992 Wrote: 
> I thought that was where the name came from.

Probably so, but it sure doesn't make me think of high-end audio
equipment.  Neither do "Slim Devices" or "Logitech," for that matter.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread Mushroom_3

To tell the truth, I never liked the name "Squeezebox."


I totally agree. I think it demeans what is an excellent product.


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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread Peter

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:37:56 -0800, "Mushroom_3"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> To tell the truth, I never liked the name "Squeezebox."
> 
> I totally agree. I think it demeans what is an excellent product.

Alright, lets help these poor Logitech guys out and think of a new name!

Regards,
Peter
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Re: [slim] Frivolous Question ('Center' vs. 'Centre')

2008-01-27 Thread autopilot

I like Squeezebox personally, i like it lot more than 'ipod' etc.


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