Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-06 Thread Phil Meyer
Besides this your description matches how it works in my own setup.
Okay, I've added some documentation in the wiki.

Phil
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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-06 Thread Phil Meyer
It's not doing that for me. When it says Playing Random Songs and I
hit play it just jumps back into the currently playing list. That's
what's annoying me. I have to do the the Now Playing + ADD thing to
clear the list then go back.

I don't know why that would be.  What version of Slimserver are you using?

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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-05 Thread Phil Meyer
The old-school method of playing random music is/was to press the shuffle 
button to select shuffle song or shuffle album.  You then selected to play 
something (such as all music, all music in a genre, or a playlist).  That would 
queue up all of the selected music, but randomised (either keeping all songs on 
an album together, or totally random).  This had a performance hit for large 
music databases.

Random Play is the new-school method.  You don't need to mess about with the 
shuffle option.  You select to play random songs, and it adds a bunch of songs. 
 It will keep a certain amount of played songs in history, and you can see a 
bunch of future songs that have been selected for random play.  The exact 
amount of songs selected and history are configurable (Web UI).

This is what happens for me in version 6.5.2:

If you press play on Plugins - Random Mix - Random Song Mix, that will clear 
any current playlist, and play the new selection of random songs (automatically 
adding new songs and removing old songs to manage the length of the playlist).  
If you go back to Random Mix menu, you should see that it now says Playing 
Random Songs instead of the Random Songs Mix option.  If you press play 
again, the current random playlist will be cleared and a new selection of 
random songs will be selected and played.

However, you can still press the Add button to add any other music to the end 
of the current playlist.  So for example, you may be playing 1 of 11 random 
songs, and add an album to the end of the playlist.  This would add items 
numbered for example 12..20.  After that, random songs would start to be 
inserted onto the end again.

In the Plugins - Random Mix menu, you could press Add on Random Album Mix, 
and this would start to add random albums to the end of the current playlist.

So, at any time, Play will create a new current playlist, and Add will add 
to the current playlist.

Pressing the power button will retain the playlist and random play mode, so 
resuming playback would carry off where you left it.  Powering off the 
squeezebox or slimserver would lose the random play mode (although the current 
playlist will be retained).

I think that's a complete braindump of everything I know about the Random Mix 
functionality.  It seems perfectly sensible and intuitive to me - much better 
than many random play options in other software/hardware.  If someone can 
confirm everything I've written here, and it doesn't already exist in the wiki, 
I'll add it.

However, I don't often use the slimserver built-in random mix function, as I 
use the more comprehensive options found in Erland's third-party plugins (such 
as dynamic playlists), which work in a similar way, but can be configured to 
select more-specific music playlists, eg. music not played recently.

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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-05 Thread mswlogo

Phil Meyer;192877 Wrote: 
 
 
 If you go back to Random Mix menu, you should see that it now says
 Playing Random Songs instead of the Random Songs Mix option.  If
 you press play again, the current random playlist will be cleared and a
 new selection of random songs will be selected and played.
 
 

It's not doing that for me. When it says Playing Random Songs and I
hit play it just jumps back into the currently playing list. That's
what's annoying me. I have to do the the Now Playing + ADD thing to
clear the list then go back.

Thanks for the detailed explaination. Almost there.


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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-05 Thread erland

Phil Meyer;192877 Wrote: 
 Pressing the power button will retain the playlist and random play mode,
 so resuming playback would carry off where you left it.  Powering off
 the squeezebox or slimserver would lose the random play mode (although
 the current playlist will be retained).
 Powering off the slimserver will lose the random play mode, but powering
off the squeezebox shouldn't. At least that's the case in my own setup.

Besides this your description matches how it works in my own setup.


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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-04 Thread Greg Erskine

hi mswlogo,

FYI, my random songs doesn't work as you describe. From the remote
and the web interface each time I press random songs a new list is
generated, with old ones removed. As each song plays another gets added
to the list.

The only unusal feature I notice, is when you stop slimserver when
you have a random song list active, the next time you start slimserver
is only cycles through the list rather an appending new songs. I just
hit random songs again.

You might want to program one of the remote buttons to select random
songs.

regards


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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-04 Thread Phil Meyer
How do I clear the list with the remote.
To clear the Now Playing list, press the Add button when the screen is showing 
the Now Playing - menu option.
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Re: [slim] Funky Random PlayList's driving me nuts

2007-04-04 Thread mswlogo

Phil Meyer;192618 Wrote: 
 How do I clear the list with the remote.
 To clear the Now Playing list, press the Add button when the screen is
 showing the Now Playing - menu option.

Thanks Phil !!!

I think understand now. This interface is goofy.

Where may I ask is that documented?

Ok, I think I understand now.

Starting from empty.

If I play Random Songs it adds a batch and starts playing.

If I let them play it will add a batch when it gets to the end.

Unless I hit RIGHT in the Press RIGHT to stop adding songs.

Then it loops on this list.

I think if I shut it off it it may automatically go into the stop
adding songs. Not sure.

But what I was doing was going back to random song mix when I turn it
on and it was just playing the same old list over and over. I unless I
rebooted server or chose a different way to play songs.

So there no quick way to just say play a new random list list (must
manually clear out old list first). But at least I think I understand
now.


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