Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-10 Thread toby10

jimascroft;575458 Wrote: 
 .
 As an aside I have had to enter the mysqueezecenter user information
 into each player ( I have 6 in total) each time I tried to change
 something.
 As its customisable and free why would the setup require a user and
 password on each player?
 If it was to access added value?? paid for services that would make
 sense but to stream Internet radio it seems a bit of a waste of peoples
 time.
 Just a thought and my 3 pence worth..

Unless you are Factory Resetting the players you should not have to
reenter your MySB login info onto each player beyond initial setup.
No MySB account is even needed if using your local SBS and using the
Internet Radio menu items.
Connecting any player directly to MySB online does indeed require a
valid MySB account on that player.

The older players (SB3  Boom), and I believe the Receiver, would
auto-register themselves onto MySB by simply adding your MySB login
info onto SBS then connecting those players to SBS.  Unfortunately the
newer players (Touch  Radio) cannot do this and must be registered
independently.


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

Hi Pipin,

Thanks for the reply.
I can connect to my wifi modem router from my IPhone. The Iphone uses
this network to control the remote  mysqueezebox music server.
Its just the local server it cannot connect to.

Regards

Jim


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread pippin

Is your WiFi probably on a different logical network than the rest of
your local network?
Some routers have a kind of Guest Network that allows access to the
internet but no access to the local network.

This sounds a lot like you don't have access to your local server,
which you obviously need.

Can you tell me a bit more about your network setup?


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

Hi Pipin,

My setup is a Dlink modem and an Apple airport extreme for the wifi ( I
live in an old stone barn and needed the range of wireless 'N')

I have a Ubuntu Linux running the Squeezebox server using Netgear
homeplugs ( again due to stone walls and big area the Squeeze boxes are
connected using UTP cat5)

The IPhone accesses the internet using the DLink wifi as I could not
get it to connect to the Airport wifi!

Maybe the issue is with the 2 available wifi networks?

Thanks

Jim


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

I just connected the netgear homeplugs to the dlink modem router instead
of the Airport. I was hoping that with my Iphone using the same network,
as you suggested, it may rectify the issue.
Now I have the same list of unconnected players on IPeng with the
message your player was not found on the play controller area.
H?


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

Im adding a few replies to my own thread but hope it will help
others...

I now can connect using Safari to my squeezebox servers web interface
and after power cycling? ( Switching them off then on again)the players
they are all found in IPeng.
As a friend said to me some time ago  Any idiot can make somthing
complicatedhe was right.

Thanks for your help with this.


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread pippin

First of all: I would try to find out why you can't connect the iPhone
to the Airport. That should solve the issue IMHO and Apple should help
on that.

What I still don't understand is how the DLink and the Airport work
together/are connected.

The _players_ don't have to be on the same network as iPeng (they have
to be on the same network as the server, though), but iPeng needs to be
on the same network as the server.
What you are seeing now is that iPeng can see your players but your
players (and iPeng) can't see your server.

So here are a few alternatives:
1. Move everything to the DLink (probably not an option for you)
2. Try to disable routing on the AirPort, especially disable any DHCP
server capability and only use the DHCP server in the DLink. That way
you make sure all your devices are on the same subnet - if it works.
You might also have to convince the AirPort to route UDP broadcasts to
the main network.
3. If your server has more than one network port you could try to
connect it to both the AirPort and the DLink. That way, both iPeng and
your Squeezeboxen (if they are on the DLink's network) will see the
server. Again: if you get it to work.


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

So here are a few alternatives:
1. Move everything to the DLink (probably not an option for you)

This is basically what I did and now I have the Airport for laptops etc
and my Iphone and Netgear homeplug network use the Dlink.

All good.

As an aside I have had to enter the mysqueezecenter user information
into each player ( I have 6 in total) each time I tried to change
something.
As its customisable and free why would the setup require a user and
password on each player?
If it was to access added value?? paid for services that would make
sense but to stream Internet radio it seems a bit of a waste of peoples
time.
Just a thought and my 3 pence worth.

Thanks again.
Regards
Jim


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread pippin

jimascroft;575458 Wrote: 
 
 As an aside I have had to enter the mysqueezecenter user information
 into each player ( I have 6 in total) each time I tried to change
 something.
 As its customisable and free why would the setup require a user and
 password on each player?
 If it was to access added value?? paid for services that would make
 sense but to stream Internet radio it seems a bit of a waste of peoples
 time.
 Just a thought and my 3 pence worth.
 

That's because that way you can use your Squeezeboxen without a server.
You can use MySB instead. And MySB needs to know what account to add
them to or
a) everybody could control them
b) or you could not.


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-09 Thread jimascroft

Hi Pippin,

Thanks again for the reply. I see so the user needs a unique ID to get
a remote server instance to control.
Perhaps then it could be stored in the player and reset if necessary
like a modem/router...
I just think that there has to be a better way than typing in the same
information via a remote in my case( 6 players 3 inputs) 18 times over
the last few days!

Regards

Jim


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Re: [slim] IPeng server connection issue

2010-09-08 Thread pippin

Are you on the WiFi network with the iPhone?


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