RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-25 Thread neil . coburn
I had similar problems which were solved by using 64 bit WEP instead of
128 bit.




 I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
 question...

 I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a Linksys
 WRT45G
 (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit.
 DHCP
 addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones
 in
 the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

 After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
 encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
 half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
 were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
 before stopping and rebooting again.

 Bummer.

 I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
 sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
 reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
 helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

 What's the final upshot on this problem?

 I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the meantime,
 and
 it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.

 Thanks,

 RE

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 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
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 Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience


 I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
 interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
 on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
 mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
 internet radio anywhere in my house.




 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
 the bandwidth
   requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
 outperformed my
   expectations.
 
  Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
  newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
  wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
  lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
  the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
  my experience.
 
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Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-25 Thread John Hernandez
Michael Peters wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:20:40 -0800, Phillip Kerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought cracking WEP was relatively easy too.

It's not cake to crack - it takes collecting data for as long as a
month or so in order to have enough to do it. Sure, it can be done,
but it's a whole lot easier to just find one of the many unprotected
networks.
Given typical SB data rates and usage patterns, I don't believe it would 
take very long to have enough data to compromise a WEP key in this 
application.  The cracking tools are fairly idiot-proof.  That said, WEP 
+ MAC-filtering is the best you can currently do, and it's probably 
worth doing.

One possible alternative would be to make the SB wireless network 
unroutable (ie. no gateway for Internet access).  That would make the 
network a very unattractive target.  In this case, you might want a 
second NIC in your slimserver if that box also needs external access.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington

I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
question...

I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a Linksys WRT45G
(v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP
addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in
the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
before stopping and rebooting again.

Bummer.

I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

What's the final upshot on this problem?

I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the meantime, and
it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.

Thanks,

RE

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 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
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 Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience


 I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
 2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
 interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
 on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
 mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
 internet radio anywhere in my house.




 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
 the bandwidth
   requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
 outperformed my
   expectations.
 
  Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
  newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
  wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
  lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
  the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
  my experience.
 
  --
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington
wups I meant wrt54g not wrt45g of course

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 I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and ask a
 question...

 I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a
 Linksys WRT45G
 (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  Using WEP
 128-bit. DHCP
 addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless
 phones in
 the house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

 After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I immediately
 encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox reboots.  I probably saw
 half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.  I saw the problem where there
 were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
 before stopping and rebooting again.

 Bummer.

 I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any
 sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of this
 reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP addressing
 helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

 What's the final upshot on this problem?

 I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the
 meantime, and
 it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many hours yet.

 Thanks,

 RE

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
  To: Slim Devices Discussion
  Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
 
 
  I too would like to report a good experience with wireless SB.  I have
  2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
  interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
  on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
  mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
  internet radio anywhere in my house.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
  the bandwidth
requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
  outperformed my
expectations.
  
   Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to the
   newcomers and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over
   wireless performance and suitability applies only to streaming
   lossless PCM audio.  If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3
   the SB has proven to be quite robust.  Virtually flawless in
   my experience.
  
   --
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Jason
Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a neighbor
100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the access
point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short of a
lease time to the squeezebox. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Ralph Edington
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
 To: Slim Devices Discussion
 Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
 
 
 I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience 
 and ask a question...
 
 I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
 Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the 
 defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal 
 strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in the 
 house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
 
 After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
 immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
 reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two 
 hours.  I saw the problem where there were multiple 
 back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10 
 before stopping and rebooting again.
 
 Bummer.
 
 I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't 
 see any sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the 
 cause/solution of this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to 
 indicate that static IP addressing helped, but another 
 reported that that didn't solve it.
 
 What's the final upshot on this problem?
 
 I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in 
 the meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for 
 that many hours yet.
 
 Thanks,
 
 RE
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
  To: Slim Devices Discussion
  Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
 
 
  I too would like to report a good experience with wireless 
 SB.  I have
  2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
  interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
  on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
  mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
  internet radio anywhere in my house.
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
  the bandwidth
requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
  outperformed my
expectations.
  
   Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to 
 the newcomers 
   and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless 
 performance 
   and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  If 
   you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven 
 to be quite 
   robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
  
   --
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ralph Edington
Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.

My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a factor,
one would think.

It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network is
hardwired to B only.

-d_protocol log shows:

2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision =
2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response

Any other debugging I could set that will help?

I will try different channels and see if that helps.

Any help is still appreciated.

RE

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 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
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 Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience


 Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a neighbor
 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

 One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the access
 point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

 Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short of a
 lease time to the squeezebox.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Ralph Edington
  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
  To: Slim Devices Discussion
  Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
 
 
  I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience
  and ask a question...
 
  I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a
  Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the
  defaults.  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal
  strength on the sbox a good 90%.  No wireless phones in the
  house, and the microwave, when on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
 
  After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I
  immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox
  reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two
  hours.  I saw the problem where there were multiple
  back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
  before stopping and rebooting again.
 
  Bummer.
 
  I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't
  see any sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the
  cause/solution of this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to
  indicate that static IP addressing helped, but another
  reported that that didn't solve it.
 
  What's the final upshot on this problem?
 
  I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in
  the meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for
  that many hours yet.
 
  Thanks,
 
  RE
 
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy Owen
   Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
   To: Slim Devices Discussion
   Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
  
  
   I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
  SB.  I have
   2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no
   interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's are
   on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do stream
   mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or
   internet radio anywhere in my house.
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
   the bandwidth
 requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
   outperformed my
 expectations.
   
Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to
  the newcomers
and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless
  performance
and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  If
you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven
  to be quite
robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
   
--
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Daniel Cohen
On 24/2/05 at 11:37 am -0800, Ralph Edington wrote
I saw the problem where there
were multiple back-to-back reboots, the reconnect countdown getting to 10
before stopping and rebooting again.
I don't know anything about spontaneous reboots - has never happened 
with me, except when my computer has been asleep for a long time - or 
multiple ones, if multiple means more than two.

But the double reboot with countdown to 10 (I've never understood why 
it doesn't countdown to 0) is common, there is a specific reason for 
it, I'm not quite sure what but it isn't a bug. It's something to do 
with the Squeezebox trying one method of connecting, failing to 
connect, and then using a different method that does work.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Ben Gladstone
ralph, just a thought, and i'm vague on the details, but i've seen
situations where two 802.11 products will not talk reliably to each
other

hence the non-profit www.wi-fi.org, which created the Wi-fi
certification mark for the subset of 802.11 products that have been
tested as interoperable. 

if both ends of the network (perhaps all devices on it?) are not wi-fi
certified, you may have incompatible devices

hopefully others with better knowledge can cut in at this point...

-ben

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Sent: 24 February 2005 21:34
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.

My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a
factor, one would think.

It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network
is hardwired to B only.

-d_protocol log shows:

2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision
= 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response

Any other debugging I could set that will help?

I will try different channels and see if that helps.

Any help is still appreciated.

RE

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
 To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience


 Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a 
 neighbor 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

 One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the 
 access point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

 Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short 
 of a lease time to the squeezebox.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph 
  Edington
  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
  To: Slim Devices Discussion
  Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
 
 
  I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and 
  ask a question...
 
  I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
  Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  
  Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a 
  good 90%.  No wireless phones in the house, and the microwave, when 
  on, didn't seem to cause any problems.
 
  After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
  immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
  reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.

  I saw the problem where there were multiple back-to-back reboots, 
  the reconnect countdown getting to 10 before stopping and rebooting 
  again.
 
  Bummer.
 
  I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any

  sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of

  this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP 
  addressing helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.
 
  What's the final upshot on this problem?
 
  I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the 
  meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many 
  hours yet.
 
  Thanks,
 
  RE
 
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   Owen
   Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
   To: Slim Devices Discussion
   Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience
  
  
   I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
  SB.  I have
   2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
   interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's
are
   on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do
stream
   mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
   internet radio anywhere in my house.
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
   the bandwidth
 requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
   outperformed my
 expectations.
   
Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to
  the newcomers
and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless
  performance
and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  
If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven
  to be quite
robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
   
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Re: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread John Hernandez
As a datapoint, you may try turning off WEP.  I'm not suggesting this as 
a good long-term solution, but you might consider something like MAC 
filtering if WEP is indeed the problem with your particular setup.

Ben Gladstone wrote:
ralph, just a thought, and i'm vague on the details, but i've seen
situations where two 802.11 products will not talk reliably to each
other
hence the non-profit www.wi-fi.org, which created the Wi-fi
certification mark for the subset of 802.11 products that have been
tested as interoperable. 

if both ends of the network (perhaps all devices on it?) are not wi-fi
certified, you may have incompatible devices
hopefully others with better knowledge can cut in at this point...
-ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Edington
Sent: 24 February 2005 21:34
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
Thanks.  Still rebooting at random.
My DHCP lease time is the standard Linksys 1 day.  Shouldn't be a
factor, one would think.
It just happened again -- rebooted.  Even though IP is fixed and network
is hardwired to B only.
-d_protocol log shows:
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8762  Got discovery request, deviceid = 2, revision
= 2.8, MAC = 00:04:20:05:87:b3
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763 It's a squeezebox
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8763  calculated rehomelength: 17
2005-02-24 13:30:00.8765 sent discovery response
Any other debugging I could set that will help?
I will try different channels and see if that helps.
Any help is still appreciated.
RE

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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:57 PM
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience
Even if you don't have any offending devices in your own home, a 
neighbor 100 feet away could easily be causing some of these problems.

One of the things you should do is try a different frequency on the 
access point and see if it has an impact on the problem.

Also static addressing should help if your DHCP server has too short 
of a lease time to the squeezebox.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph 
Edington
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

I would like to report my very recent bad wireless experience and 
ask a question...

I just switched over from wired mode to wireless.  I bought a 
Linksys WRT45G (v2.2, firmware 3.03.6) and used all the defaults.  
Using WEP 128-bit. DHCP addressing.  Signal strength on the sbox a 
good 90%.  No wireless phones in the house, and the microwave, when 
on, didn't seem to cause any problems.

After a smooth hookup and looking like it was working fine, I 
immediately encountered the problem of spontaneous squeezebox 
reboots.  I probably saw half-dozen reboots in the first two hours.

I saw the problem where there were multiple back-to-back reboots, 
the reconnect countdown getting to 10 before stopping and rebooting 
again.

Bummer.
I read a lot of old threads about this problem, but I didn't see any

sure-fire solutions.  Was there a consensus on the cause/solution of

this reboot problem?  One thread seemed to indicate that static IP 
addressing helped, but another reported that that didn't solve it.

What's the final upshot on this problem?
I've now set the router to B-only and static addressing in the 
meantime, and it seemed to help, but I haven't ran it for that many 
hours yet.

Thanks,
RE

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roy 
Owen
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:45 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] Good wireless experience

I too would like to report a good experience with wireless
SB.  I have
2 wireless SB's (mind you they are on their own WAP) and have no 
interference from microwave or 'phone.  In fact both of my WAP's
are
on the default channel 6.   I do not stream lossless but I do
stream
mps with no additional compression.  I can now play my mp3's or 
internet radio anywhere in my house.


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:08:29 -0700, Daryle A. Tilroe 
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I stream MP3, not lossless, which obviously greatly reduces
the bandwidth
requirements.  The wireless performance of my Squeezebox
outperformed my
expectations.
Yes, it should probably be clarified and emphasized to
the newcomers
and/or lurkers on the list that the debate over wireless
performance
and suitability applies only to streaming lossless PCM audio.  
If you stream (or convert and stream) MP3 the SB has proven
to be quite
robust.  Virtually flawless in my experience.
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RE: [slim] My NOT good wireless experience

2005-02-24 Thread Phillip Kerman
 
 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:26:03 -0700, John Hernandez 
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  As a datapoint, you may try turning off WEP.  I'm not 
 suggesting this as
  a good long-term solution, but you might consider something like MAC
  filtering if WEP is indeed the problem with your particular setup.
 
 I don't have my squeezebox yet and I'm getting the wired version
 (though slimserver is on a wireless box) - I would like to note that
 it is rather trivial to sniff both MAC address and SSID key even if
 SSID is not broadcast and MAC filtering is on. That may not be a
 concern - I don't have WEP on myself, I'm not worried about people
 using my connection for illegal stuff etc. but there are tools
 specifically designed to take advantage of non encryption protected
 networks, if you live where there are a lot of people going buy, etc.
 or in an apartment, you may not want to disable WEP, last thing you
 want is your IP associated with a child porn sting.
 
 Turning WEP off might help diagnose the problem though, maybe you
 should try 64 instead of 128?


I thought cracking WEP was relatively easy too.  I can't make my SB wireless
work if I have WEP turned on.

Thanks,
Phillip

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