Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
I'm trying to get this to work, but it just keeps flashing Logging in to Sirius. I tried my username and PW on the regular Sirius site and it works fine. - Dave GoCubs wrote: Streams can now be played on SB2/3 hardware by disabling built-in decoding (see web site)!!! Now playing information is viewable for all channels via the web and remote control interfaces. No longer requires custom async http classes. Bug fixes. * Please completely delete any previous versions before installing!!! * www.abovethelaw.com/squeeze -Greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Michaelwagner wrote: If their main feed is to the satellite, that's their business model. If they don't (and won't) care about the quality of that, are they ever going to care about the quality for a few people getting it over the internet? I agree with you on this. My hope is that the owners of this business will realize that they can develop a higher quality internet-delivered product. They're already investing in developing the programming. And the satellite bandwidth bottleneck doesn't apply to the net. I expect they could make money on a high quality streaming service as a either a bundle w/ sat. radio, or for purchase on it's own. I'd be much more interested in their service delivered via that delivery mechanism. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Bradley wrote: Actually if you even listen to the actual audio stream directly from the satellite using Sirius hardware, you'll hear a lot of imperfections and digital artifacts. Satellite radio is far from Hi-fidelity. It's more about variety. So you may want to reconsider your point. This is the dirty little secret of the satellite radio industry: what they're broadcasting sounds like crap. I was actually shocked at how bad Sirius sounds over the air; I expected it to sound better than the crappy WMA stream you hear online, but in fact it sounds pretty close to that. Probably fine for listening in your car (or via a Sirius boombox), but I can't imagine listening to it on my stereo and being happy for long with the sound. (I subscribe to Sirius so I can listen to Howard Stern while commuting; I figured the music channels would be a bonus and looked forward to setting up something at home to listen to them, but I dropped that idea when I heard what they sounded like.) SBB ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Steve Baumgarten wrote: Bradley wrote: Satellite radio is far from Hi-fidelity. It's more about variety. So you may want to reconsider your point. This is the dirty little secret of the satellite radio industry: what they're broadcasting sounds like crap. Its no secret. Probably fine for listening in your car (or via a Sirius boombox), Which is the initial design point. The marketingdroids are singing the silly bull about 'digital' means quality, but no one takes is seriously. It is seriously compressed, bandwidth on satellite transponders is expensive. A moving car is too noisey to have any serious Hi Fi. The sound level of moving luxury cars is way over 60dBa, It has to drown out any subtle audio artifacts. 60dB + 96dB from a RedBook audio is 156dB which is way into pain and deafness. The threshold for pain is about 130 dB, Aircraft carrier jet takeoff is around 140dB. Variety, convenience, are realistic goals. Serious quality is not there. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Steve Baumgarten wrote: This is the dirty little secret of the satellite radio industry: what they're broadcasting sounds like crap. I was actually shocked at how bad Sirius sounds over the air; I expected it to sound better than the crappy WMA stream you hear online, but in fact it sounds pretty close to that. Probably fine for listening in your car (or via a Sirius boombox), but I can't imagine listening to it on my stereo and being happy for long with the sound. I'm also impressed (not) with the way that the signal disappears when you go under an overpass, into a parking garage, c. My rental car company has hooked me up with a couple of cars that had satellite radios, and I don't think I'll be buying into this revolutionary technology any time soon :) -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Since 1996 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Thanks for the info. Before exploring AlienBBC I'd like to get the player working on SB2/3's. I'm kind of confused why it is not working on them and so far I'm surprised I haven't gotten much response to my questions for help. Have you tried using mplayer and/or wmadec directly (on the command line) with the URL your plugin generates for a particular Sirius station? Put aside the internals of the Slimserver code, just see if mplayer/wmadec (not to mention Windows Media Player itself) can play the URL if you run them on the command line. If so, then in theory you should be able to play it directly via the Tune In web page and SB2/SB3 hardware should be able to connect directly to the URL. But without doing the above test you can't really know if the URL itself is wrong or if there's something about the WMA stream that's confusing the WMA decoding code in the SB2/SB3 firmware. SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
But without doing the above test you can't really know if the URL itself is wrong or if there's something about the WMA stream that's confusing the WMA decoding code in the SB2/SB3 firmware. Sorry, I should have read a bit further; it sounds like you've done this already and have a URL that's playable via the command line, though (for whatever reason) not yet by the firmware-based WMA decoder in the SB2/SB3. (I'm assuming the reason it works for Softsqueeze is that Softsqueeze doesn't advertise itself as being able to decode WMA streams directly, so the server decodes via wmadec [I think] and reencodes into either a FLAC or an MP3 stream for Softsqueeze to play.) SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
Wow, good thing you're not painting with too wide of a brush there. Sheesh. Want to know who pays to listen to Stern? Me and about the 2.5 million other listeners who bought Sirius for Howard. And *that's* why he gets paid the money he does. You don't like him? Fine, he's not for everyone. That's why there's a tuner knob on your radio. But why disparage those of us who are able to enjoy him? On Feb 4, 2006, at 9:20 PM, tyler_durden wrote: So I can listen to Howard Stern? No thanks. I can't imagine why anyone would pay money for a Sirius subscription so they can listen to that idiot. The brilliant execs at Sirius who gave him $500M must have been high when they came up with that idea... I'm glad he went to Sirius. No there's no chance of accidently running into his show on free radio. TD -- tyler_durden -- -- tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php? userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
GoCubs wrote: Plugin or not, no Howard. Unfortuantley only the music channels are available online :( Though according to what he's said on his show this week, that's due to change in the near future. They have to build out a lot of server infrastructure first, though, to handle the expected load, but once that's done you'll be able to listen online (assuming you have a Sirius login). SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?
I vote free radio. I understand there are some pirate radio stations re-broadcasting Howard for free, I wouldn't mind one of those stations being available on Slim.On 2/2/06, hal9000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Positively...I need my Howard in the house (I have two car accountsalready)!Who do I write the check to? ;)-hal--hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20621___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
