Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Stoker wrote: A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian http://www.bostonacoustics.com/US/Product/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatId=HomeAudio(BostonAcoustics_US)SubCatId=Soundbars(BostonAcoustics_US)Pid=TVeeModel30(BostonAcoustics) Uses the television's remote. mfw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
If your TV only has digital coax output the 'Sonos Play bar' (http://www.hifigear.co.uk/sonos-playbar-wireless-hifi-tv-soundbar.html) can be fed from a small CYP AUD2 coax to optical converter which costs less than 50GBP. tommytrousers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62226 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Stoker wrote: A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian Take a look at the Yamaha YSP-1400 sound bar. MichaelJ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Stoker wrote: A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian Not exactly a soundbar and no bluetooth either, but it has AUX-in and probably sounds better than the majority of soundbars: http://www.qacoustics.co.uk/qacoustics-qtvx-speakers.htm bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Stoker wrote: A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian Libratone Lounge ? No BT as far as I know. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Stoker wrote: A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian Sonos have the wireless sub which obviously works well with the 'Sonos Playbar' (http://www.hifigear.co.uk/sonos-playbar-wireless-hifi-tv-soundbar.html) but is not compatible with bluetooth - there is a analogue audio input on the Playbar though, so you could connect your phone for audio via the headphone socket with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo mini jack cable. honeymonster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58939 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Single optical only on the playbar. There is no analogue input. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
My recent Samsung Smart TV doesn't output external source analogue sound But surely you're not putting in analogue sound? Most TVs will output PCM on the S/PDIF after decoding the HDMI input from cable tv/games console etc. amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
d6jg wrote: My recent Samsung Smart TV doesn't output external source analogue sound through its optical out. It actually says this in the manual? Or you can't get this to work? As suggested, this should work. Regardless, HDMI input into a sound bar is rather pointless and why most such devices don't bother offering it. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
toby10 wrote: It actually says this in the manual? Or you can't get this to work? As suggested, this should work. Regardless, HDMI input into a sound bar is rather pointless and why most such devices don't bother offering it. I've a panasonic and it is the same - audio from analog TV signals (which are rare) are not output on the digital audio but are ouput on the analog audio out. Only sources with digital audio are output on TV digital audio out (i.e TV will not do analogue to digirtal audio conversion for output). bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
d6jg wrote: Read the specs here http://www.sonos.com/shop/products/playbar It will stream music via wi fi like any other Sonos and is also designed to upgrade the audio of an HD TV via an optical cable. The blurb then goes on to say that with the one connection to the TV it will play the audio from a Sat box (or similar) connected to your TV. How? My recent Samsung Smart TV doesn't output external source analogue sound through its optical out. Both of my Panasonic TVs send whatever is on screen to the optical output, regardless of the source - very convenient for using my hifi speakers to improve the TV sound. For HDMI inputs and the built-in digital tuner I assume it is a digital passthrough (I've never checked), but it even provides optical out for the built-in analogue tuner, so I've always assumed it must have an ADC. Come to think of it though, I guess even the analogue tuner is implemented digitally, so the audio is probably digital from the moment it's received. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
bpa wrote: I've a panasonic (2012 model) and it is the same - audio from analog TV signals (which are rare) are not output on the digital audio but are ouput on the analog audio out. Only sources with digital audio are output on TV digital audio out (i.e TV will not do analogue to digirtal audio conversion for output). Also with my Panasonic, if say a dvd with 5.1 audio is playingf connected to TV by HDMI - as TV only has 2.0 audio will negotiate over HDMI to get 2.0 from DVD player and only 2.0 audio will be output on digital audio out. So a sound in this case will only play 2.0 audio unless directly connected to DVD player. Yes, both are common limitations of TV audio outs, neither would be corrected if using HDMI out. ;) Few would have analog audio input into a TV if they are expecting digital/5.1 output. The more common setup is digital to AVR for surround and simultaneous analog to TV for non-surround use (like watching news, etc...). 2.0 digital output is really meant for input into an AVR which will matrix 2.0 to 5.1 (or more) via a DSP like Dolby ProLogicII. Common TV audio outs these days are: - 5.1 digital out if using the TV's own tuners (OTA, cable, QAM) - 2.0 digital out if using external digital input source (DVD, sat/cable box, BD) - no digital output if using external analog input source toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Following d6jg comments, I just did a retest on Panasonic with old video console - analog audio in did comeout on digital audio out. I think I must have messed up some setting last time I tried or did something stupid like vol on mute. toby10 wrote: Yes, both are common limitations of TV audio outs, neither would be corrected if using HDMI out. ;) Few would have analog audio input into a TV if they are expecting digital/5.1 output. The more common setup is digital to AVR for surround and simultaneous analog to TV for non-surround use (like watching news, etc...). 2.0 digital output is really meant for input into an AVR which will matrix 2.0 to 5.1 (or more) via a DSP like Dolby ProLogicII. Common TV audio outs these days are: - 5.1 digital out if using the TV's own tuners (OTA, cable, QAM) - 2.0 digital out if using external digital input source (DVD, sat/cable box, BD) - no digital output if using external analog input source I agree no technical reason but the use of HDMI on a sound bar could simplify thing for the end user - just one type of cable. No toslink, coax, minijack or RCA phono. However at the moment with the need to connect to legacy and ordinary audio equipment digital out makes sense for Sonos. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
A little off topic, but hopefully close enough to get a reply! Does anyone know of a sound bar type product, which could be used with a sub-woofer to make a 2.1 sound system for the TV that also has a bluetooth (A2DP, I think) input so you could pay music from you phone through it as well? Cheers --Ian Stoker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8264 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
I like the look of it and had a bit of a read. It's pricey and I think it might be flawed. In the bumph I read it talked about a single optical connection to TV and nothing about HDMI which means you are going to be reliant on your TV passing digital sound out from connected devices eg Satelitte box, blu-ray etc. That's not a common feature is it? Or have I misread the bumph I have seen? d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
d6jg wrote: I like the look of it and had a bit of a read. It's pricey and I think it might be flawed. In the bumph I read it talked about a single optical connection to TV and nothing about HDMI which means you are going to be reliant on your TV passing digital sound out from connected devices eg Satelitte box, blu-ray etc. That's not a common feature is it? Or have I misread the bumph I have seen? Interesting... I'm sure one of its selling points was that you could play music even when your TV is off. I'm not sure how that would work even *if* you have a TV with digital passthrough. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
It can play music with TV off - that is not in doubt. They say that to get sound from the TV (and connected devices) you just need one optical connection. That implies that TVs have digital passthrough and doesn't have one of those asterix that point to small print that says if your TV supports it. My bedroom HD TV doesn't even have an optical out only a coax digital out. Is it normal for current TVs to have digital audio passthrough? d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Guessing with TV off it has WiFi all by itself for Sonos playback. Like their Sonos speaker boxes. Why would you need HDMI out from TV? All you will get from TV audio is 2ch and (at best) 5.1ch digital lossy audio. The bar is to be used in place of a full surround and/or to boost the TV's weak speakers. Though you could still do full surround from a source (like sat/cable box) to an AVR when you wanted it. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos PlayBar...
Read the specs here http://www.sonos.com/shop/products/playbar It will stream music via wi fi like any other Sonos and is also designed to upgrade the audio of an HD TV via an optical cable. The blurb then goes on to say that with the one connection to the TV it will play the audio from a Sat box (or similar) connected to your TV. How? My recent Samsung Smart TV doesn't output external source analogue sound through its optical out. d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98096 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
