Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
iPhone;394375 Wrote: The bands have changed. There are now basically the World Band Table 1-12 Channels and the US only table 1-11 Channels. I believe the only country using channel 13 legally is Japan and that is for b WiFi only. I happily use channel 13 on my Netgear router here in the UK. I also hope that my neighbours don't know about that channel as I can see up to 11 different WLANs from my house, most of which are Sky routers and BT Home Hubs. -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
In fact, make that 16 WLANs plus my own! -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
iPhone;394375 Wrote: The bands have changed. There are now basically the World Band Table 1-12 Channels and the US only table 1-11 Channels. I believe the only country using channel 13 legally is Japan and that is for b WiFi only. 2,4 GHz channels US 1-11, Europe 1-13, Japan 1-14 -- jo-wie SB Classic, SC 7.3.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
jo-wie;394813 Wrote: 2,4 GHz channels US 1-11, Europe 1-13, Japan 1-14 In US and Europe are 3 in Japan 4 non overlapping networks possible. Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels Typo, That should have been channel 14 B only for Japan and 1-13 for World Table. Also the Wikipedia is behind. There are only the two tables now, North America and the World Table with the asterisk on Channel 14 for B only use in Japan. So realistically for G routers and networks its NA 1-11 and the World 1-13. Thanks for catching that. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
iPhone;394818 Wrote: Typo, That should have been channel 14 B only for Japan and 1-13 for World Table. Also the Wikipedia is behind. There are only the two tables now, North America and the World Table with the asterisk on Channel 14 for B only use in Japan. So realistically for G routers and networks its NA 1-11 and the World 1-13. Thanks for catching that. Sorry my fault, I took the information first from mind and the german wikipedia entry which do not note the 802.11b only for Japan. English link was added later and not completly crossread by me. So also in Japan you can only have 3 non overlapping 802.11g networks. -- jo-wie SB Classic, SC 7.3.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
I just checked out what I can see from my laptop. I see nine WiFi access points, mine and six others. Five of them use Channel 6. Two use 11, one used 5, one used 1 There are no free channels. One is a neighbor across the circle from me, probably 100 meters away. Another is down the street, more like 400 meters away. One that is fairly weak is more like 500 meters away. Two of them are still named linksys with no encryption. One still named Netgear. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
I prefer the stealth method ;-) I see at least seven different networks. Sometimes more. To many neighbours. To my relief they seem to club at the same channels. I will not make them aware of the fact that you CAN change channels ;-) They can have their crappy wifi. Unless one SSID is nice girl with limited PC experience in need of help ;-) (my genome speaks trough me sometimes ) -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
jo-wie;393772 Wrote: Will a 802.11n router help with your Squeezebox? The Squeezebox is 802.11b/g compatible and thus it will still run the same frequency and protocol as with your old router. I'm going by reports that in 802.11g mode, they're more powerful. Also MIMO should help. An easy (@Moonbase: no single =D ) method is just to talk to the neighbors and get the 3 possible frequencies sorted in a non overlapping way. I've done it and it works fine. I have looked at what channels are in use using NetStumbler and I'm on one they're not on. Seeing as nearly all channels are knocked out, I'm thinking it's something more than just a microwave oven. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Channel 13 is a forgottem channel which works outside of N. America and is very neglected since many poster just suggest 1,6 or 11 to fix problems. Also you can use directional antenna (even the cereal packet tinfoil version) will help with signal by excluding other sources. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
bpa;394340 Wrote: Channel 13 is a forgottem channel which works outside of N. America and is very neglected since many poster just suggest 1,6 or 11 to fix problems. Also you can use directional antenna (even the cereal packet tinfoil version) will help with signal by excluding other sources. Out of curiosity, would US market WiFi devices even see this ch 13? If it can, could it utilize it? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Some routers has a country setting or similar that turns on the channels above 11 or different firmware, my old netgear had a US and non US firmware. I think ch13 are illegal to use in US but it is not likely that a SWAT team will knock down your door for that. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
bpa;394340 Wrote: Channel 13 is a forgottem channel which works outside of N. America and is very neglected since many poster just suggest 1,6 or 11 to fix problems. Also you can use directional antenna (even the cereal packet tinfoil version) will help with signal by excluding other sources. The bands have changed. There are now basically the World Band Table 1-12 Channels and the US only table 1-11 Channels. I believe the only country using channel 13 legally is Japan and that is for b WiFi only. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Mnyb;394370 Wrote: Some routers has a country setting or similar that turns on the channels above 11 or different firmware, my old netgear had a US and non US firmware. I think ch13 are illegal to use in US but it is not likely that a SWAT team will knock down your door for that. But say I were to take my laptop or SB Boom to Europe, would my WiFi card's in both devices even see ch's 12 13? Could they connect? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Boom will work as there is only one version of firmware. Your laptop will depend on the wireless card and its associated driver - you would need to check this out separately. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
I'm pretty sure that a US laptop(or SB boom, probably) cannot see channels 12 and 13. I ran into this issue when a US friend tried to use her laptop at my home in London. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
So true. Probably better kill thy neighbour ;-) (Especially those who run multiple WLANs in -one- apartment! Or start saving money and use one together #8230;) -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
I always used to have a stable wireless network, but over Christmas, one of the neighbors got something...I don't know what, but several times a day, it knocks out my wireless network for 5-30 minutes at a time. Checking NetStumbler, it seems to knock out most other wireless networks as well. DD-WRT is showing transmission errors and these continue until things magically start working again. I thought it was my router dying but the latest investigation with DD-WRT shows it's just about every network in range. Looks like it's time to get one of those powerful and expensive 802.11n routers then. Lately wireless feels like an arms race with your neighbors! -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Not a neighbour in sight for 1km. Don't even need to bother with securing the router! The other advantage is you can play what you like, when you like at the volume you like. Regards Givendale -- givendale givendale's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10161 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The nature of the beast or wirelless tango or this years channel
Mark Lanctot;393670 Wrote: I always used to have a stable wireless network, but over Christmas, one of the neighbors got something...I don't know what, but several times a day, it knocks out my wireless network for 5-30 minutes at a time. It is not a microwave oven, 5-30 minutes would be a very hot dish full of convenience food. ;-) Will a 802.11n router help with your Squeezebox? The Squeezebox is 802.11b/g compatible and thus it will still run the same frequency and protocol as with your old router. -- jo-wie SB Classic, SC 7.3.2 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
