Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
jimzak wrote: > Is running a full scan still necessary? I'm on 7.9 beta. My scheduled new & changed scan ran a little slower than normal this morning, but it did not see all the files as changed. Looks like this is fixed and a full scan following a time change is no longer necessary on Windows. :) JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
I am running-Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1472633108 @ Wed Aug 31 08:54:44 CUT 2016 all appears OK wo a full rescan dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Is running a full scan still necessary? I'm on 7.9 beta. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net SBS 7.9 - i7 nuc - Win 10 64bit 5 Booms, 2 Radio, 3 Touch, 1 Duet, 5 piCorePlayers including 3 touchscreen, 1 Avy 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Apps including iPeng, Squeeze Ctrl etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 303,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 12 TB HD jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Haven't tested the "fall back" situation, but so long as you're adjusting the timestamps by the opposite amount when it occurs, I would call it fixed. Thanks! JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
So, you're able to reliably detect that a DST time change has occurred since the last scan? LMS does set a flag in the database whether DST is on or off. Before running the scan it checks that flag against the current DST state and updates the timestamps column if needed (on Windows only). -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Yeah, they're all cover.jpg files. So, you're able to reliably detect that a DST time change has occurred since the last scan? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
It looks like a New & Changed scan did NOT see any music files as changed following the time change. But, it did see all of the covers as having changed and resized and re-cached all of them. Are you using all standalone artwork (eg. cover.jpg) or mostly embedded? I looked into this, and I guess if I looked into it before, I probably came to the same conclusion as I've come today: things are complicated :-). It only applies to cases where you're using an external artwork file, was its timestamp would be reported incorrectly too. Unfortunately the artwork cache isn't a nice table where the timestamp is its own column. Therefore we can't just bump that timestamp as we do for the tracks. Which means we can't easily fix this. Not easily enough to make it worth the hassle and risk imho. After all that stage doesn't have the same negative impact as does a full rescan of the tracks table. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
It looks like a New & Changed scan did NOT see any music files as changed following the time change. But, it did see all of the covers as having changed and resized and re-cached all of them. Hmm... did I investigate this before? I'll check again. Thanks! -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Win7, LMS 7.9, clear and rescan: Discovering files/directories: D:\Audio\CD (13939 of 13939) Complete 00:00:30 Scanning new music files: D:\Audio\CD (12643 of 12643) Complete 00:03:42 Discovering playlists: D:\Audio\Playlists (35 of 35) Complete 00:00:00 Scanning new playlists: D:\Audio\Playlists (34 of 34) Complete 00:00:01 Building full text index (7 of 7) Complete 00:00:04 Pre-caching Artwork (875 of 875) Complete 00:00:38 Database Optimize (2 of 2) Complete 00:00:05 ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
It looks like a New & Changed scan did NOT see any music files as changed following the time change. But, it did see all of the covers as having changed and resized and re-cached all of them. Discovering files/directories: D:\Flac (48390 of 48390) Complete 00:00:40 Discovering files/directories: C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\playlists (2 of 2) Complete 00:00:00 Find updated coverart files (3774 of 3774) Complete 00:00:04 Pre-caching Artwork (3580 of 3580) Complete 00:03:00 The server has finished scanning your media library. Total Time: 00:03:44 (Sunday, March 13, 2016 / 9:48 AM) JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
What version(s) of LMS would this apply to ? I think it's 7.9 only. Heh... at the time I thought I'd back-port it if it turned out to be ok. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
mherger wrote: > > Reminder to do a complete rescan when the time changes > > Hopefully not. I applied a change which should deal with it a year ago. > > When is the time change up? > > -- > > Michael What version(s) of LMS would this apply to ? dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
mherger wrote: > > Reminder to do a complete rescan when the time changes > > Hopefully not. I applied a change which should deal with it a year ago. > When is the time change up? This coming Saturday night. I'm not sure I ever really tested the fix, but I've disabled my nightly auto-rescan, so I'll be able to know for sure on Sunday. No comments yet in the bug report. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18078 JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
dasmueller wrote: > Reminder to do a complete rescan when the time changes I thought this was fixed? kidstypike LMS on Raspberry Pi 2 model B/max2play/HiFiBerry DAC+ > AVI DM5 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x Raspberry Pi/max2play/HiFiBerry kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Reminder to do a complete rescan when the time changes Hopefully not. I applied a change which should deal with it a year ago. When is the time change up? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Reminder to do a complete rescan when the time changes dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
That's great news. Michael, what was the workaround? That would indeed be great news. How it works? After every scan I'm setting a flag whether the scan happened in DST or not. And before every new changed scan it would check that flag against the current DST state. If it changed, then it runs an update on the tracks table to modify it according to the change and sets the flag to the new status. (and all of this in Windows only) I decided to do this one time update rather than add more logic to all of the scanner code spread across multiple source files. Seems to be good enough. Keep fingers crossed. There will be a next DST change in the opposite sense :-). -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Thanks Michael. All appears well on a Look for new and changed media files scan. Discovering files/directories: /mnt/disk1/Tunes_Lacie (15479 of 15479) Complete 00:00:37 Removing deleted files: /mnt/disk1/Tunes_Lacie (1 of 1) Complete 00:00:02 Discovering playlists: /mnt/disk1/Tunes_Lacie (1609 of 1609) Complete 00:00:17 Scanning new playlists: /mnt/disk1/Tunes_Lacie (1 of 1) Complete 00:00:05 Building full text index (7 of 7) Complete 00:00:29 Find updated coverart files (373 of 373) Complete 00:00:01 Pre-caching Artwork (46 of 46) Complete 00:00:06 Database Optimize (2 of 2) Complete 00:00:43 The server has finished scanning your media library. Squeezebox Classic:2; Duet: 1; Boom:1; Touch:1; Wandboard Quad; Squeezelite. Server: Wandboard Quad with SoA; Raspberry Pi/Wolfson Card with Squeezeplug 7.06; (backup:Win 8 Pro 64 bit, Sheevaplug with Squeezeplug); iPeng, iPeng for Ipad, Orange Squeeze, Squeezepad, LMS Version: Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
That's great news. Michael, what was the workaround? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
mherger wrote: Anything particular needs doing with this version, or just wait until 21st March? Nothing to do. Except check progress when you do your first scan for new changed after the dst switch. It should no longer remove all tracks and re-scan them all. -- Michael I'd forgotten I would be away on the 29th, just got back, I see there are no replies to this thread. Just to let you know, I just did a scan for new and changed and scanner did *not* remove all tracks and re-scan them all - so looks like a fix? kidstypike 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x piCorePlayer kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
mherger wrote: Anything particular needs doing with this version, or just wait until 21st March? Nothing to do. Except check progress when you do your first scan for new changed after the dst switch. It should no longer remove all tracks and re-scan them all. -- Michael Thanks, I've only just seen your reply, DST is of course 29th not 21st. (you don't see edits). kidstypike 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x piCorePlayer kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
mherger wrote: I've committed a bunch of changes which try to deal with the DST change on Windows issue. If you're still in winter time (Europe), would you please give the latest 7.9 nightly build a try? http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9 I'd really like to know whether this improves the situation or not. Thanks! Michael Anything particular needs doing with this version, or just wait until 21st March? kidstypike 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x piCorePlayer kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Anything particular needs doing with this version, or just wait until 21st March? Nothing to do. Except check progress when you do your first scan for new changed after the dst switch. It should no longer remove all tracks and re-scan them all. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
I've committed a bunch of changes which try to deal with the DST change on Windows issue. If you're still in winter time (Europe), would you please give the latest 7.9 nightly build a try? http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9 I'd really like to know whether this improves the situation or not. Thanks! Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR, Smart Mix mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Daylight savings is coming up. I believe we still need to do a full rescan. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
You're certainly right, still three weeks to go for me. Just wondered if there's a command line argument for LMS to start a full scan, so that one could create a scheduled task. But a command line arg is not needed. This should do the trick: create a batch file to stop the LMS service (net stop Logitech Media Server), delete the db files and then restart the service (net start Logitech Media Server). Then create a scheduled task that runs under an admin account triggered after the two DST switching times of the year... reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
JJZolx wrote: Reminder bump. Thanks...I usually remember to do this, but had neglected this time. bwaldron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
I forgot as well. Thanks dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Reminder bump. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
JJZolx wrote: Bump. A reminder for anyone running LMS under Windows: Run a full clear library rescan everything following a time change to or from Daylight Savings Time. Otherwise, the next new changed scan may rescan the whole library, which is typically much slower than doing a full scan. I didn't see this in time. My scheduled new and changed scan took 1.5 hours last night. Normally 10 minutes or less. Will it really continue to be slow until I clear and rescan as one post above indicates? Makes no sense to me, but I will go ahead and change my next scheduled scan to clear and rescan. SUE -If you're happy and you know it turn the volume up and 'blow it out' (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Features/Exhibit+A/Blow+It+Out).- 1 Touch | 2 Booms | 2 Radios | 1 Duet | 1 SB2 HP Proliant N54G | Logitech Media Server 7.8 | iPhone iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) 'My Journey to Musical Bliss' (http://www.geekintheforest.com/musical-bliss/) | 'Squeezebox is Dead. Long Live Squeezebox.' (http://www.geekintheforest.com/long-live-squeezebox/) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
MeSue wrote: I didn't see this in time. My scheduled new and changed scan took 1.5 hours last night. Normally 10 minutes or less. Will it really continue to be slow until I clear and rescan as one post above indicates? Makes no sense to me, but I will go ahead and change my next scheduled scan to clear and rescan. yes. bite the bullet and do a clear and rescan. :D *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
If the new change scan rescanned every file in the library, then it shouldn't rescan those files again, because the new timestamps would be recorded in the library database. One the other hand, if there's some bug is causing only 1/2 of the files to be scanned each time, then it would keep doing it until it finishes the whole library. I recall a couple of similar bugs where only half of the tracks expected to be scanned actually do get scanned. Don't know if they're related. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17438 IMO, it's good to run a full rescan periodically anyway. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
I changed the scheduler to run clear and rescan tomorrow and then I have a reminder so I don't forget to switch it back. SUE -If you're happy and you know it turn the volume up and 'blow it out' (http://www.last.fm/music/The+Features/Exhibit+A/Blow+It+Out).- 1 Touch | 2 Booms | 2 Radios | 1 Duet | 1 SB2 HP Proliant N54G | Logitech Media Server 7.8 | iPhone iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) 'My Journey to Musical Bliss' (http://www.geekintheforest.com/musical-bliss/) | 'Squeezebox is Dead. Long Live Squeezebox.' (http://www.geekintheforest.com/long-live-squeezebox/) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Bump. A reminder for anyone running LMS under Windows: Run a full clear library rescan everything following a time change to or from Daylight Savings Time. Otherwise, the next new changed scan may rescan the whole library, which is typically much slower than doing a full scan. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Been there, done that. :) Any ideas why new and changed scans following the DST switch always find half the number of modified tracks compared to the previous scan? (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98276-I-Got-Them-Eastern-Standard-Time-Bluesp=760952viewfull=1#post760952) reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
castalla wrote: DST today only applies to parts of Canada, USA, Haiti, Bahamas Bermuda and part of Greenland. Everybody else where DST operates can relax until next week - apart from the odd-balls who change on their own eccentric dates! Southern Hemisphere users - you are on your own timetable! Actually, the UK and western Europe (at least) changed to standard time last week. For a week we here in Toronto were only 4 hours earlier than London. Back to the normal 5 now. R RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Thanks for the heads-up. I could not for the life of me figure out what was going on with the new and changed scan rescanning the whole library. -- Benefactor Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Is this advice applicable to all versions of Windows? -- pomatomus pomatomus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Reminder to those running the server under Windows: You should run a full clear rescan everything today. Before you run your next new changed scan, or else you'll probably see that new changed scan rescan every file in the library due to the time change. Which is a lot slower than just running a full rescan. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
What time change would that be? -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purfek! 1 Logitech Radio + remote - purfek! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
castalla;695338 Wrote: What time change would that be? DST , daylight saving . http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2012.html Swedis windows and LMS user should pay attention 25/3 -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
castalla;695338 Wrote: What time change would that be? Perhaps this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16597191 Except that they postponed the decision, again. Until 2015. regards, Atlantic -- Atlantic Atlantic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
Does not compute! -quote If this does happen, the ITU says that leap seconds would be eliminated from 1 January 2018. -unquote -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purfek! 1 Logitech Radio + remote - purfek! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DST today only applies to parts of Canada, USA, Haiti, Bahamas Bermuda and part of Greenland. Everybody else where DST operates can relax until next week - apart from the odd-balls who change on their own eccentric dates! Southern Hemisphere users - you are on your own timetable! -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purfek! 1 Logitech Radio + remote - purfek! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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And I might add (from hard experience), if you don't run a complete rescan, LMS keeps running a prolonged version of the new changed scan each time it runs thereafter. This thread didn't exist this AM when I first experienced the problem. LMS has succeeded in wasting another hour or so of my already shortened weekend :( -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Cisco E4200 Server: SBS 7.7.2 - i3 - Win 7 64bit Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch Control: 2 controllers, iPad1, iPad2, Nexus S smartphone, Transformer Eee tablet Apps: iPeng for iPad, SqueezePad, Logitech Squeezebox app 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 144,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 3 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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jimzak;695351 Wrote: This thread didn't exist this AM when I first experienced the problem. Sure it did, although it's also natural that a 4 year-old thread wouldn't be the first thing (or 2nd, or 3rd...) on most people's mind this morning. Thanks to Jim for bumping it. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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castalla;695344 Wrote: Does not compute! -quote If this does happen, the ITU says that leap seconds would be eliminated from 1 January 2018. -unquote Yes, they said that IF it happened, then there'd be 6 years' notice. Time enough, you would think, 6 years. But Time does not seem to be what we think it is. It does (or doesn't) match the Earth's rotation. It gets delayed by some old guys in Paris who decide whether to add a second now and then. It gets shifted around, so that midday - in our neck of the woods - occurs at a quarter past one for half the year; our sundial is never right. Beats me how anything works, really. Anyway, that decision was postponed until 2015: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16625614 regards, Atlantic -- Atlantic Atlantic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
H. Is UTC time stored, or local time ? Window's isn't changing the time of the files - a given application (like explorer) gets timezone adjusted dates based upon the user's timezone settings. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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MrC;278625 Wrote: H. Is UTC time stored, or local time ? Window's isn't changing the time of the files - a given application (like explorer) gets timezone adjusted dates based upon the user's timezone settings. No, Windows isn't modifying the times of files. In NTFS file systems UTC is stored. But what happens is that the timezone offset is changed when DST begins and ends. Here's an article that explains the problem, and even the reasons why Microsoft chose to implement it as they have. http://www.codeproject.com/KB/datetime/dstbugs.aspx I'm not sure if SqueezeCenter could work around the issue. I think it would depend upon whether ActiveState Perl can return pure UTC file times and then SC store those instead of local times. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:57 PM, JJZolx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an article that explains the problem, and even the reasons why Microsoft chose to implement it as they have. http://www.codeproject.com/KB/datetime/dstbugs.aspx That is a really funny article... ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Indeed, thanks for sharing. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Would this apply if NTFS Timestamp function disabled in WXP? . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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haunyack;278635 Wrote: Would this apply if NTFS Timestamp function disabled in WXP? Yes. The NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate setting is supposed to be a performance tweak, correct? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/regentry/46656.mspx?mfr=true This only disables updating of last-access times (and I think it only applies to directories, not files). SqueezeCenter stores file last-modified timestamps in its database, not last-access. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;278639 Wrote: Yes.The NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate setting is supposed to be a performance tweak, correct? Yes, that is what is claimed but I have not seen any quantifiable data to prove that out. This only disables updating of last-access times (and I think it only applies to directories, not files). SqueezeCenter stores file last-modified timestamps in its database, not last-access. Good to know...thanks for the info as I noticed that my usual re-scan took about 45 minutes longer than expected the night of the time-change. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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haunyack;278647 Wrote: I noticed that my usual re-scan took about 45 minutes longer than expected the night of the time-change. If you were running a new and changed scan then it probably ended up rescanning every file in the library. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;278651 Wrote: If you were running a new and changed scan then it probably ended up rescanning every file in the library. Yes, I add music regularly by using the My Music\folder\album method. After that I initiate a scan for MIP integration. I noticed that when I executed a backup next day, all my previous music files reported date time change. Subsequently, I may have accidentally avoided the slowdown you mention. What luck! . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
