Re: [discuss] Re: Styles: Another consideration

[Jonathon Blake]

Rod wrote:

>I always go through a process of customizing mine anyway 

The only thing I look at in the toolbars is the name of the style I'm
currently using, and where the document I'm working on is located.

>have the Page style indicated 

">Tools >Configure >Status Bar" 
Check the "Page Style" checkbox.

xan

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[discuss] Re: Instructions for Uninstalling OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux

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| Just remove the directory. It it may be located in either your /etc
| directory or in /opt
| I am running SuSE 9.1 and it is located in /opt with a link from /etc
|
| Regards,
| Mike
|
| Kazunari Hirano wrote:
|
|> Hi all,
|> Does anybody know where "Instructions for *Uninstalling*
|> OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux" is? :)
|> Thanks,
|> khirano

Don't forget to remove ~/.openoffice.org1.9.[version number] from your
home directory assuming you want to remove openoffice completely.
Cheers,
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[discuss] Re: Openoffice vs MS Office Research

[Randomthots]

Eric Hines wrote:

Johan, you and I grew up in different generations than did OP.  At least 
in the US, current education is all about fluff, feel good, and PC, and 
it has little to do with learning actual facts or thinking skills.


On the other hand, the cite is limited in scope.  It's possible that 
this class is exceptional and is about content primarily.  A section on 
tools would not be out of place in such a class.


Eric Hines

At 05/26/05 14:56, you wrote:


John William Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am going to be writing a White Paper about Openoffice and how it
> compares to the standard Microsoft Office for my professional
> writing class.

This puzzles me. I'd have thought a "professional writing class" is
about content and the tools to make the content permanent hardly
matter.

-- Johan



Did it occur to either one of you that the assignment was simply to 
write a "White Paper" style of document and that the OP decided to 
choose OOo vs. MSO for the topic?


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Re: [discuss] Openoffice vs MS Office Research

[Kevin Cullis]

See Sun's web site for some info:

http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/index.xml

Kevin

John William Werner wrote:

Hello-

I am going to be writing a White Paper about Openoffice and how it compares
to the standard Microsoft Office for my professional writing class. Does
anyone know of any good sites/articles/research that compares the two? Any
ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks again,
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[discuss] Re: Calendar functionality

[Randomthots]

Chad Smith wrote:


On 5/26/05, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Visio is part of office? Is that new?

Daniel



No, it's been a part of the Microsoft Office System for years.

-CHad Smith


Since when? I have MSO 2000... no Visio.

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[discuss] Re: Styles: Another consideration

[Randomthots]

Mathias Bauer wrote:

Randomthots wrote:


Cool, I'll have to try it. I was sticking to 1.1.4 when I was doing my 
term papers and such the last few weeks so I didn't notice that 
development.


Wishlist item: Take this one step further and make keyboard assignment 
of Styles available through either or both of:


1. Context menu when you right click on a style in the Stylist window.

2. On the Organizer tab of the style dialog.



Yes, agreed. We planned to allow shortcut assignment in the "Styles And
Formatting" window but dropped that due to time pressure.



So we could still see this in the future?



Another thing I've wished for is a character style drop-box on the 
toolbar like the one for paragraph styles. That's another big reason for 
me that paragraph styles are easier to use than character styles. As it 
is there is no indication of which character style is currently in 
effect unless the Stylist window is open and often I would like to 
collapse it to regain screen real estate.



But what's so bad with having the stylist open? If you followed your
path consequently you could end up with a toolbar item for most
attributes you can think of. Maybe an optional toolbar control (not
visible by default) would be a good compromise.



That would be great. Let's face it, the default "out-of-the-box" toolbar 
layout is just your best guess of what most people will want. I always 
go through a process of customizing mine anyway -- drop a few items that 
I never use and add a few others.


It might not be a bad idea to have the Page style indicated somewhere as 
well, maybe in the Status bar, now that I think of it.


Rod


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Re: [discuss] Instructions for Uninstalling OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux

[Michael Sammartano]

Just remove the directory. It it may be located in either your /etc 
directory or in /opt

I am running SuSE 9.1 and it is located in /opt with a link from /etc

Regards,
Mike

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Hi all,
Does anybody know where "Instructions for *Uninstalling*
OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux" is? :)
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[discuss] Instructions for Uninstalling OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux

[Kazunari Hirano]

Hi all,
Does anybody know where "Instructions for *Uninstalling*
OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta for Linux" is? :)
Thanks,
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[discuss] OSS Multiple Monitor Manager...

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

Does anyone know of a OSS program that lets you control a multiple 
monitor desktop for Windows?


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Re: [discuss] Publisher like program

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

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Jonathon Blake wrote:

Joel wrote:



adding a publisher like program to OOo



What functionality does Publisher have, that OOo does not have?

xan

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Re: [discuss] Re: Publisher like program

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

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blabla wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My name is Joel Madero and I mainly use Openoffice for school work and
personal use but also use it for business puroposes. I was wondering if
anyone has brought up possibly adding a publisher like program to
openoffice. This type of program seems like it would be more useful 
than a

database program (although that seems helpful as well). Are there any
other publisher like programs in open source community? Please let me 
know


Joel Madero
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google "scribus" - works a treat

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Re: [discuss] Few Suggestions, Please Read

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Quoting Sam Hiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]

Was it me or his comments are completely contradictory. On the first 
line I read
he hates MSO and he is willing to switch. But  on the second paragraph, 
he wants
integration with Outlook. So my question is, if you want to switch what 
are you

talking about Outlook?


His point was that he would switch, but only if it was an integrated 
suite, like MSO.


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Re: [discuss] Few Suggestions, Please Read

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

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Adrian Try wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 16:10:10 +1000, Joe Barrilleaux 
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...snips...

I'll be honest with you guys. I hate MS Office and I use Premium 
2003.  The only reason I use it is because Outlook integrates with 
word for  inserting addresses. The best word processor and suite I've 
ever used is  Lotus Word

Pro and the whole Smart Suite.



It's nice to meet another Lotus fan here. I love Lotus programs - or  
rather they loved the same programs as I did. In the DOS days I was a 
big  fan of AlphaWorks, which Lotus bought. Later on I was using 
Samna's  AmiPro, which Lotus also bought.


I have never been a big fan of Microsoft's way of doing things. I feel  
very much at home here with OpenOffice.org.


Point being I wouldn't change to your product even for free if you   
couldn't
share the information  in Outlook across all your programs. And as 
far  as I know you don't even have a contact manager which is the 
first thing  I would have done.



I've never bought Microsoft's point of view that you need to get all of  
your software from the same company - Microsoft. I've always felt it's  
better to let lots of different organisations do what they do best.


OpenOffice.org doesn't have their own address book, but it interfaces 
with  lots of different address books (including Outlook if that's what 
you  really want to use). It can connect with Mozilla's address book, 
and the  2.0 beta also connects with Thunderbirds. Thunderbird will take 
care of  your emails as well as your address book, and also has an add 
on calendar  module called Sunbird.


To access your address book from OpenOffice.org, check out File / 
Wizards  / Address Data Source.


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Re: [discuss] Calendar functionality

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Quoting Anton Danilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

MS Office does not have all the functions that /we/ provide. For 
example, they don't provide a vector graphics drawing program.



Why not, Visio is a vector drawing program. It doesn't ship with a
cheaper version of Office, but it is a part of it.




Well I DO know that they don't provide a Math formula editor on /any/ of 
the MSO

versions. :P


I think you are mistaken. I can go to *Insert > Object > Microsoft 
Equation* and edit and make equations.


After learning it, I think I prefer OOo's equation editor better. 
Mostly, because I can see what I am doing and control it far more easily 
that MSO's. (This is why I prefer OOo overall though.)


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Re: [discuss] Question on Tool/customize/keyboard

[Mathias Bauer]

Sophie Gautier wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm actually checking for FR-l10n issues on m104 and for this, I check 
> also the English version.
> 
> There is something I don't understand under Tool | Customize | Keyboard, 
> choose the Edit category and you'll find those entries under Function : 
> Can't restore and Can't undo.
> What are these shorcuts supposed to do ? I'm pretty sure it should be 
> Restore or Undo, but may be I missed something.

Yes, this is a bug. The "name" of the function and its default menu text
are mixed up badly.

> In the same category (and in a lot of other places) some functions have 
> the same name : you'll find 2 Links or 2 Backspace entries for example. 
> How the user will know which one to choose for his shortcut ?

Yes, this also looks wrong. Would you mind create an issue for the
problems you found?

Best regards,
Mathias

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Re: [discuss] Re: Filter selection not allowing me to open my file

[Rigel]

also pam. You may want to upgrade to the latest beta build if you like. The 
OOo community releases them regularely.
 .openoffice.org 
 Rigel

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> | I have a spreadsheet in the open office 1.9.7 that I opened this morning
> | and had no problems. I saved it and closed it and upon trying to reopen
> | it comes up with "filter selection" and will not let me open the file.
> | I am attaching the file. Do you have any idea why this would happen?
> |
> | --
> |
> | *Pam Patton
> | */Materials Supervisor/
> |
> Hi Pam,
> I had a look at your .ods file and it's not. (an .ods file). I looked at
> it in a hex editor and it's mostly 00 or FF, in other words garbage. Are
> you running windows by any chance? Openoffice did well by not opening
> it. Try doing some experiments with simple spread sheets (just fill in a
> cell or two) and save them and see if you still have a problem
> cheers,
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Re: [discuss] Publisher like program

[Jonathon Blake]

Joel wrote:

>adding a publisher like program to OOo

What functionality does Publisher have, that OOo does not have?

xan

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Re: [discuss] Publisher like program

[Sander Vesik]

--- Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes it's name is Scribus: www.scribus.org
> 

scribus.net

and its unfortunately not really quite that good overall


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Re: [discuss] Calendar functionality

[Sander Vesik]

--- Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anton Danilov wrote:
> 
> >> MS Office does not have all the functions that /we/ provide. For 
> >> example, they don't provide a vector graphics drawing program.
> >
> >
> > Why not, Visio is a vector drawing program. It doesn't ship with a 
> > cheaper version of Office, but it is a part of it.
> >
> 
> Visio is part of office? Is that new?
> 

Not really, some variants of office (pro or extra-pro or however they call it 
;-))
has had it for quite some time. 

> Daniel.
> 


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[discuss] Re: Filter selection not allowing me to open my file

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En/La Pam Patton ha escrit, a 27/05/05 19:35:
| I have a spreadsheet in the open office 1.9.7 that I opened this morning
| and had no problems.  I saved it and closed it and upon trying to reopen
| it comes up with "filter selection" and will not let me open the file.
| I am attaching the file.  Do you have any idea why this would happen?
|
| --
|
| *Pam Patton
| */Materials Supervisor/
|
Hi Pam,
I had a look at your .ods file and it's not. (an .ods file). I looked at
it in a hex editor and it's mostly 00 or FF, in other words garbage. Are
you running windows by any chance? Openoffice did well by not opening
it. Try doing some experiments with simple spread sheets (just fill in a
cell or two) and save them and see if you still have a problem
cheers,
Jonathan
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[discuss] Filter selection not allowing me to open my file

[Pam Patton]

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I have a spreadsheet in the open office 1.9.7 that I opened this
morning and had no problems.  I saved it and closed it and upon trying
to reopen it comes up with "filter selection" and will not let me open
the file.  I am attaching the file.  Do you have any idea why this
would happen?

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Re: [discuss] Re: Few Suggestions, Please Read

[Gregory Korzon]

Adrian,

What is your experience with the Thunderbird?
I am looking for an alternative to the MS Outlook 2002 which I do not like at 
all. I am using Windows XP Home.

Regards,
Gregory
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> I was wondering how you incorporate the address book (I use Thunderbird)
> and it took me all of 10 seconds using the wizard. My first love was
> WordPerfect but I had to give that up years ago because of conversion
> problems with M$Word. I then said "sod it" and changed to TeX. I use OO
> for editing other people's work and quick stuff.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan

Hi Jonathan

I'm still just starting to experiment myself, and I would be grateful to  
hear of others' approaches.

The View Data Sources feature (F4) is very handy. From there I can view  
and filter tables and queries. I can drag fields or records into my  
document, or click the mailmerge button to insert address blocks or other  
merge information.

I've hardly started experimenting with the possibility of using the Base  
application for accessing and using address book information.

Overall, it seems to be a very flexible system which I look forward to  
exploring more. I'm also sure there's a lot of room for improvement,  
including cooperation between OpenOffice.org and Mozilla, for example.

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[discuss] Question on Tool/customize/keyboard

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

I'm actually checking for FR-l10n issues on m104 and for this, I check 
also the English version.


There is something I don't understand under Tool | Customize | Keyboard, 
choose the Edit category and you'll find those entries under Function : 
Can't restore and Can't undo.
What are these shorcuts supposed to do ? I'm pretty sure it should be 
Restore or Undo, but may be I missed something.


In the same category (and in a lot of other places) some functions have 
the same name : you'll find 2 Links or 2 Backspace entries for example. 
How the user will know which one to choose for his shortcut ?


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [discuss] Re: Few Suggestions, Please Read

[Adrian Try]

I was wondering how you incorporate the address book (I use Thunderbird)
and it took me all of 10 seconds using the wizard. My first love was
WordPerfect but I had to give that up years ago because of conversion
problems with M$Word. I then said "sod it" and changed to TeX. I use OO
for editing other people's work and quick stuff.
Cheers,
Jonathan


Hi Jonathan

I'm still just starting to experiment myself, and I would be grateful to  
hear of others' approaches.


The View Data Sources feature (F4) is very handy. From there I can view  
and filter tables and queries. I can drag fields or records into my  
document, or click the mailmerge button to insert address blocks or other  
merge information.


I've hardly started experimenting with the possibility of using the Base  
application for accessing and using address book information.


Overall, it seems to be a very flexible system which I look forward to  
exploring more. I'm also sure there's a lot of room for improvement,  
including cooperation between OpenOffice.org and Mozilla, for example.


Adrian

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Re: [discuss] Calendar functionality

[Rich]

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,12800,00.asp

it was made a part of office a couple of years later.

i remember how disappointed were long time visio users with this fact

Chad Smith wrote:

On 5/26/05, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Visio is part of office? Is that new?

Daniel


No, it's been a part of the Microsoft Office System for years.

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Re: [discuss] Calendar functionality

[Chad Smith]

On 5/26/05, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Visio is part of office? Is that new?
> 
> Daniel

No, it's been a part of the Microsoft Office System for years.

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Re: [discuss] Impress Free Path animation

[Ian Lynch]

On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 18:09 +1200, RobinH wrote:

> 
> There are several uses I can think of for animation along a path: progress 
> along roads, a bee buzzing from
> flower to flower, the workings of the human body, and so on

So particularly important in education. I'm told the free path code is
still there, it just needs reinstating in the user interface. Hopefully
a high priority for 2.01. 

> Is it intended to have this effect in the final version? I do hope so!

I was told a later version but I'd agree that if its not very difficult
to do it should be in 2.0 or asap after. 

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Re: [discuss] Few Suggestions, Please Read

[Alexandro Colorado]

Quoting Sam Hiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]

Was it me or his comments are completely contradictory. On the first 
line I read
he hates MSO and he is willing to switch. But  on the second paragraph, 
he wants
integration with Outlook. So my question is, if you want to switch what 
are you

talking about Outlook?

If you want a mail client, there is thunderbird and if you want a calendar,
please check Sunbird. If you are switching to Linux then Evolution is a great
choice but if you are staying with Windows then the Mozilla Suite is your best
bet.

In my exclusive point of view, you have the idea of a office suite as a
PIM/communication suite (email, contacts etc) while OpenOffice.org is focused
on productivity suite (creating documents).

The only problem with smart suite is that is PROPRIETARY.


On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 02:10 -0400, Joe Barrilleaux wrote:

I'll be honest with you guys. I hate MS Office and I use Premium 2003. The
only reason I use it is because Outlook integrates with word for inserting
addresses. The best word processor and suite I've ever used is Lotus Word
Pro and the whole Smart Suite. Everything you right click on, all formatting
for text, table, frames is right there at your finger tips. Check it out.
Lotus / IBM's Approach database is the best. For me at least it was easy to
learn.


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I could go on and on with things like this but I like to be able to share my
contact with all programs on my computer. Outlook integrates with all MS
apps and also many other programs. Also many add ins for outlook. My virus
program ViRobot integrates very nicely into Outlook.



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Alexandro Colorado
Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish
http://es.openoffice.org/


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Re: [discuss] Calendar functionality

[Alexandro Colorado]

Quoting Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Anton Danilov wrote:

MS Office does not have all the functions that /we/ provide. For 
example, they don't provide a vector graphics drawing program.



Why not, Visio is a vector drawing program. It doesn't ship with a 
cheaper version of Office, but it is a part of it.




Visio is part of office? Is that new?

Daniel.


There are many MSO versions, student, gold, premium, standard, 
professional. So

I guess in one of those Visio might be thrown in.

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Alexandro Colorado
Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish
http://es.openoffice.org/


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