Re: [discuss] Someone is acting as an OOo spokesperson
actually I know a couple of guys who did that when they did a migration. It went out pretty fast and when they find out that this wasn't true they already have learn enough OpenOffice.org to stick to it. Like I said in the past, most people dont care about the software they just need to work. On 7/14/06, mgpoirier2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm not sure if this is something you're too concerned about, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. There's a person who goes by the name of Donnieboy who is posting on a ZDnet feedback portion of a story about OOo. Now, I'm sure he means well and is trying to advocate OOo over MSOffice, but the manner in which he's doing it is, I'm sure, not how you would probably want it done. The thread is about a new security hole found in Powerpoint. Donnieboy is posting this like I've pasted below. Depending on your email client, the bigger, bolder letters you see are the headlines. Anyway, the thread is at the url pasted immediately below and, as I just said, his comments are pasted below that. I just thought I'd bring this to your attention in case you were to decided you prefer he not speak on your behalf. The url: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009-6094059.html His comments: This has already been fixed, you just need to download the next version of Microsoft Offfice. The new version is now called OpenOffice, available right now at http://openoffice.org. Make sure you un-install teh old version before installing OpenOffice. The old version, now called Microsoft Office is being phased out. The new version eliminates the bloat and uses better programming practices to make it over 100x safer to use. This new version also uses a ISO standard open file format that is supported by many different vendors so you will have much better interoperability. Oh, unlike the old version, the new version is available at no charge, you only pay for support. Man, we are serious, if you are using the old version, you are at risk. You need to delete the old version called MS Office before installing the new one called OpenOffice. If you don't you are still at risk. Kind of like using a condom half of the time. This is an emergency, if you still have a copy of the old version called MS Office on your computer, you are at risk. Delete it as soon as possible. There are shady organizations putting you at risk and stealing your money where with the new version you only pay for support. If an MS rep trys to con you, do NOT take the bait. Man, we are dead serious here, we are talking about the security of home computing. The American way of life is at risk if you do not act now!!! http://openoffice.org. Mark G. Poirier 162 Mendon Ave #3 Pawtucket RI 02861-1928 (401) 427-0264 Home (617) 733-7318 Cell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado
Re: [discuss] Idea: Make Openoffice a Web application!
Well we open te code and we encourage people to download it, i think thats more than the average proprietary software cooperation. They are free to donload audit it and ask about it. Also remember that OOo is made in C++ which maybe might not be the ideal language used on all this web apps, we also have used some other common libraries that might be too heavy to migrate to a web enviroment. But you are asking an open source community to help develop a prorpietary company (writley, irows) when usually should be the other way around. On 7/15/06, Florian Staudacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Thanks for your response and for the links. Now I have at least some URLs where I can find some online word processing,... Ok... Now I can understand why there isn't a web-version of OO. But I still think you could at least co-operate with these providers of online-offices that they don't have to make all their experience their own. ;-) I mean: you could help them with the features of their applications - you already have them in your office-suite and they have to implement it their own... The doc-types are really a weird thing. The best would be a open and standardisized type, but unfortunately there won't be one in the near future. Again, thank you for your help Florian Staudacher P.S: please ignore my bad english... Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:23:20 +0200 Von: Martin Hauge [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: discuss@openoffice.org Betreff: Re: [discuss] Idea: Make Openoffice a Web application! Hi, I agree with Chad, this is a rapid growing branch of web-services that make a web-version of OOo unnecessary. You can add iRows.com on the list. iRows is a web-spreadsheet service that also supports ODF-documents http://www.irows.com Most of them seem to support ODF as well as the Microsoft-formats, all of them seem to be (still) free. Another important feature for most of the new category of web-office services is free storage on web, and the collaboration possibility. Those are very useful features in e.g. phone-meetings and collaboration on a document/spreadsheet/presentation where the participants are spread geographically. I think the best OOo-strategy to those products is to demand 100% ODF-comatibility from all of them and to promote membership in the ODF Fellowship. With full ODF compatibility those products may fulfil the web- and collaboration-tool demands for OOo-users (and there is no need to pay for Microsoft Sharepoint Server). Those new web-products may also contribute to reduce the lock-in effects of the Microsoft-formats. The Best Martin Hauge, Norway -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! Feel free mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado
[discuss] Delete dialog
To Whom It May Concern: Your so-called feature, the delete dialog box, is a violation of the common functionality principle of application design. Even Microsoft follows this principle most of the time. It was one of the first things I learned when I began programming. When a user presses the L key on the keyboard, they expect to see an L displayed on the screen. When a user presses the delete key on the keyboard they expect something to be deleted. I have used computers since I bought my first one in 1980. Almost every application I have used actually deletes something when I press the delete key. Calc does not delete, but opens a delete dialog box requiring the user to check the little boxes and click again for the delete to execute. While you are at it, why don't you remap the entire freaking keyboard? Call it a feature when the user types an L but Calc displays a W. It took me an hour online to find that you have, in your infinite wisdom, designated the backspace key as the replacement for the delete key. It took another hour to find a way to fix this screwy feature. This should be (but is not) in your FAQs or in the Calc documentation. Whoever dreamed up the delete dialog should be tossed out of the OO design community and blackballed from the world of application development. The Code Monkey Madison AL
Re: [discuss] Delete dialog
2006/7/16, Code Monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To Whom It May Concern: Your so-called feature, the delete dialog box, is a violation of the common functionality principle of application design. Even Microsoft follows this principle most of the time. It was one of the first things I learned when I began programming. When a user presses the L key on the keyboard, they expect to see an L displayed on the screen. When a user presses the delete key on the keyboard they expect something to be deleted. I have used computers since I bought my first one in 1980. Almost every application I have used actually deletes something when I press the delete key. Calc does not delete, but opens a delete dialog box requiring the user to check the little boxes and click again for the delete to execute. While you are at it, why don't you remap the entire freaking keyboard? Call it a feature when the user types an L but Calc displays a W. It took me an hour online to find that you have, in your infinite wisdom, designated the backspace key as the replacement for the delete key. It took another hour to find a way to fix this screwy feature. This should be (but is not) in your FAQs or in the Calc documentation. Whoever dreamed up the delete dialog should be tossed out of the OO design community and blackballed from the world of application development. The Code Monkey Madison AL You forgot the magic word. /$ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Using BitTorrent Download?
Francisco Saldana wrote: Has the openoffice web team considered using bittorrent to deliver openoffice? It could help offset bandwith usage. Bittorrent delivery of OOo has been available for at least the last two releases. It's right there with the other downloads. -- John W. Kennedy The blind rulers of Logres Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue. -- Charles Williams. Taliessin through Logres: Prelude - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Using BitTorrent Download?
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:03:34 -0500, Francisco Saldana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the openoffice web team considered using bittorrent to deliver openoffice? It could help offset bandwith usage. Right so why dont you download it from here: http://distribution.openoffice.org/p2p/ -- Alexandro Colorado Grupo de Usuarios Linux Tabasco http://www.gultab.org OpenOffice.org Community Contact // Mexico http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Delete dialog
[CC'd to user] Code Monkey wrote: Calc does not delete, but opens a delete dialog box requiring the user to check the little boxes and click again for the delete to execute. [...] It took me an hour online to find that you have, in your infinite wisdom, designated the backspace key as the replacement for the delete key. It took another hour to find a way to fix this screwy feature. This should be (but is not) in your FAQs or in the Calc documentation. It is mentioned in the documentation: Help|Index|type delete|double click cell contents results in: This dialog is also called by pressing Del after the cell cursor has been activated on the sheet. Pressing Backspace deletes content without calling the dialog or changing formats. -- Bob Long - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Delete dialog
Code Monkey wrote: is a violation of the common functionality principle of application design. I guess you didn't realize that it is standard for a program to request specifically what is to be deleted, when there are two or more possible items to be deleted. Calc does not delete, but opens a delete dialog box requiring the user to check the little boxes and click again for the delete to execute. If you paid attention to what it did, you'd know that there are several things that could be deleted in a cell. Instead of deleting everything, it gives the user the choice of what to delete. If the user wants to delete everything, they can use the backspace key --- which has an equally long history of being the delete key as the delete key has. designated the backspace key as the replacement for the delete key. The first use of the backspace key, as a delete key was back when DARPA was figuring out if ARPANET was possible. [And it might predate that.] and blackballed from the world of application development. In that case, I suggest you submit your recommendation to DOD/DARPA. Be sure to provide a comprehensive explanation why 30+ years of software application development design should be discarded. xan jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Delete dialog
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, is a violation of the common functionality principle of application design. I guess you didn't realize that it is standard for a program to request specifically what is to be deleted, when there are two or more possible items to be deleted. i think the original poster has a point, though. That dialog is a severe break of flow. People are used to hitting DEL to empty the cells content. Don't we claim if you can use MS-Office you can use OpenOffice.org? This is a usability issue we should think about. I.e. DEL to clear the content, Shift+DEL to bring up the dialog would possibly be a better choice. However, Code Monkey...a friendlier tone would be nice and the OOo Usability projects issue tracker would be the place to post your complaint. If the user wants to delete everything, they can use the backspace key --- which has an equally long history of being the delete key as the delete key has. This backspace key functionality is bad in terms of discoverability. André. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEuxi6EOp8fsnyxsQRAvGdAJ9xM+Yj1M4KoB1WaKSx5OF1mp/FcQCbBRXi RJLYseMxf81rHjNLYcXr+GM= =wrj4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
