Re: [discuss] An idea for menu entry File/Recent Documents

2006-09-07 Thread Terry
Please ignore the message under reply.  It was sent from the wrong 
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mailing.


Terry wrote:
After all, it seems there's not much to this.  Perhaps I've missed a 
whole lot?


Listing Application documents vs All:
Does this require a separate request for enhancement (RFE)?.

Why can't the Recent Documents list be segregated by application? When 
I am in a Calc window, I am generally not interested in documents I have 
recently opened in Writer. (For example, right now I am in Calc and the 
Recent Documents list only contains 10 Text Documents.) The program 
should maintain segregated lists for Spreadsheets, Text Documents, 
Drawings, Presentations, etc.


Comment: It would enhance the software if the user had options regarding 
recent files.  A user could elect to have only recent documents 
pertaining to the particular application displayed.  Why must it be one 
way or the other?


Having a much longer list would not be a substitute.  The suggested menu 
change:


If I have been working on a spreadsheet and then have to handle text 
documents, when I go back to Calc I would like to recall the 
spreadsheets I was working on. Maybe the menu could say-


Recent Documents  This App 
 All Apps 

Comment: I would prefer a separate menu item so that the choice of which 
list is displayed is made and only one list can be displayed.  This 
interferes less with ordinary use by the great number of users.  If the 
first is chosen, a different list is displayed anyway on changing 
applications.


Recent Documents  List
Document List This Application
 All Applications

Number of Documents Listed and Reset
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=50722

Comment: Some want more, some want less, some want none.  The number 
could go into Options since it would normally be set only occasionally. 
 Clear could be added, as proposed, below the list.


An appropriate category would be Tools Options OOo Memory Document 
List Number of Documents


An extra degree of flexibility could be obtained by adding an option to 
the File Open dialogue: Add to document history [select  / deselect].
My files list includes 3 files which I will probably never open again. 
This would also accomodate privacy  / security concerns.  Does this 
require a separate RFE?


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Re: [interface-discuss] UNO representation for BmpColorMode

2006-09-07 Thread Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germa ny
Hi Philipp,

 Just that we have that value in vcl doesn't mean it's a good idea. Since 
 uno APIs are fixed, i'd hesitate to create an API for this, do you 
 really, really need it ? It would be better for us if any control 
 reacted on background color instead of high contrast (and so far in most 
 places this is the case).

Well, I have an interface which is to provide an XGraphic for a certain
UI item (an entry in a list, for that matter). The component
implementing this interface does not know the context - in particular:
the control - where this image is to be used.

Also, even if it would, I would be highly reluctant to burden the
component with the evaluate the background color and decide which image
to use-thing. I consider this a heuristics which works well internally,
but I wouldn't impose this on every component which is ever going to
provide some image. What if next year, we decide that the usage of
high-contrast images really depends on some OS-provided High
Contrast-flag instead?

So, yes, I think I really really need it :)

Ciao
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[discuss] Confussed

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Sherer
Hello

I don't mean to harp or badger but you documentation that you have about
MySQL and OO seems a little out of date. Maybe I just need some sleep.
However I am using OO-2.0 and I am trying to connect to a MySQL database
that I have, I just want to bring the data into a spread sheet. Anyways
the documentation that is supplied is for a) windows or b) OO version
1.0. Now as I try to follow the instructions in 1.0 I have to stop
because the setup is not the same, I don't have what they show in the
screen shots. I do not have a way to access a data source with an odbc
connection from calc. Now that I think about it I downloaded and
installed FC5 which installed OO but I have everything but base. is that
normal? and can I just download base? I couldn't find a seperate
download for base on the website.

Dave

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Re: [discuss] An idea for menu entry File/Recent Documents

2006-09-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi

When all's said you're fighting the fact the recent documents list is a
MRU (simplest programming model) while actual user needs are quite
different (for example an accounting sheet may be opened every month, so
even if other files have been opened more recently it should stick in the
list).

So an ideal list would be closely tailored to each user habits. I suspect
assigning weights to the various parameters (last open time, number of
accesses, current OO.o shell) and using some sort of bayesian algorithm
(trained with actual uses of the list) might work best.

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[discuss] Open Office Premium

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Adams
Stupid question here.

Is this product part of the OO.o roadmap or a completely externally
maintained product?

I have noted quite an increase in premium questions on the user list
and the answer to this question settles for me whether they are noise or
signal.

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Re: [discuss] An idea for menu entry File/Recent Documents

2006-09-07 Thread Terry
You may well be correct, AFAIK.  Your comments will give the developers 
an alternative approach.  (To take the optimistic view that there is a 
point to making any comments.)


For myself, I don't trust a formula for weighting.  Different factors 
weigh differently with different users.


If the user has an array of options, the user, in effect, assigns weight 
to various factors by the choices made.


Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

Hi

When all's said you're fighting the fact the recent documents list is a
MRU (simplest programming model) while actual user needs are quite
different (for example an accounting sheet may be opened every month, so
even if other files have been opened more recently it should stick in the
list).

So an ideal list would be closely tailored to each user habits. I suspect
assigning weights to the various parameters (last open time, number of
accesses, current OO.o shell) and using some sort of bayesian algorithm
(trained with actual uses of the list) might work best.


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Re: [interface-discuss] UNO representation for BmpColorMode

2006-09-07 Thread Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany

Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

Also, even if it would, I would be highly reluctant to burden the
component with the evaluate the background color and decide which image
to use-thing. I consider this a heuristics which works well internally,
but I wouldn't impose this on every component which is ever going to
provide some image. What if next year, we decide that the usage of
high-contrast images really depends on some OS-provided High
Contrast-flag instead?


The fact that there are no such things. The only flag there is is on 
windows and its actual meaning is that it switches between two sets of 
themes, not that high contrast is on.



So, yes, I think I really really need it :)


So what about asking Application::GetSettings().GetWindowColor().IsDark() ?

Just a thought, pl

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Re: [discuss] Open Office Premium

2006-09-07 Thread Robert Derman

Michael Adams wrote:


Stupid question here.

Is this product part of the OO.o roadmap or a completely externally
maintained product?

 

Open Office Premium is indeed an externally maintained product.  It is 
based on OpenOffice.org, but it includes a lot of templates, clip-art, 
and other extras not part of the official OOo package.


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Re: [discuss] Confussed

2006-09-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:31:45 -0500, Dave Sherer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hello

I don't mean to harp or badger but you documentation that you have about
MySQL and OO seems a little out of date. Maybe I just need some sleep.
However I am using OO-2.0 and I am trying to connect to a MySQL database
that I have, I just want to bring the data into a spread sheet. Anyways
the documentation that is supplied is for a) windows or b) OO version
1.0. Now as I try to follow the instructions in 1.0 I have to stop
because the setup is not the same, I don't have what they show in the
screen shots. I do not have a way to access a data source with an odbc
connection from calc. Now that I think about it I downloaded and
installed FC5 which installed OO but I have everything but base. is that
normal? and can I just download base? I couldn't find a seperate
download for base on the website.

Dave


Hi Dave, yes we do need more volunteers to update the manuals that  
previous volunteers gave to us. We have some updated spanish manuals on  
OOo 2.0 (with Base). Here is my experience, I have had many issues  
understanding odbc under linux and I end up giving up on unix-ODBC  
unfortunately I didnt find the resources to make it work on Linux.


I did tried JDBC which is supplied under the mysql-connector-JDBC this  
work flawlessly as long as I have the JRE running, I tried it with SUN's  
and Blackdown and they both work pretty good.




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Re: [discuss] Open Office Premium

2006-09-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Michael,

Michael Adams wrote:


Stupid question here.

Is this product part of the OO.o roadmap or a completely externally
maintained product?

I have noted quite an increase in premium questions on the user list
and the answer to this question settles for me whether they are noise or
signal.

If you look at the dev@marketing.openoffice.org archives, you'll find 
very recent discussions and research about how to co-operate as close as 
possible :-)

Greetings,
Cor


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Re: [discuss] An idea for menu entry File/Recent Documents

2006-09-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hello,


Nicolas Mailhot wrote:


When all's said you're fighting the fact the recent documents list is a
MRU (simplest programming model) while actual user needs are quite
different (for example an accounting sheet may be opened every month, so
even if other files have been opened more recently it should stick in the
list).

So an ideal list would be closely tailored to each user habits. I suspect

[...]

A possible mistake is that we want to do all the work, that the OS 
already makes possible for us.
For files that I need regularly, I group links in a separate folder. 
Click click, and there you are.


Regards,
Cor


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[discuss] Enhancement to Word: Difficnary

2006-09-07 Thread j*s
Hi-

I started keeping track of words that I knew not the meaning of back in my 
university days of
1959.  And slowly I kept adding more words as the years passed.  It was a 
laborious task of using
a loose leaf notebook.  But with the advent of computers and me buying a laptop 
in 1998, the task
became more productive.  And, thus, I now have a small! dictionary of only 
difficult words:
Difficnary (copyright).

Using any Word program, I find certain limitations.  The Thesaurus  option does 
NOT give word
meanings.  Nor can I search for a word knowing only its partial meaning.   And 
it lacks many
difficult words and foreign phrases.   So, after editing my growing Difficnary 
to just one line
meanings, I started to use the Word FIND command to search for words or 
meanings in Difficnary
itself.  This method and Difficnary could be an addition to any electronic Word 
application.

For example:
if one has an electronic copy of Difficnary and uses the Edit command FIND, 
then one can seek on a
key meaning (e.g., “slave”) and find its words whose one-line definition 
includes “slave”:
chattel -n. slave; bondsman; belongings
coffle  -n. a slave caravan
esne-n. a domestic slave
helot   -n. slave; serf
manumission -n. formal liberation of a slave
manumit -v. to release from slavery; to free as a slave
thrall  -n. a slave; bondman

I’ve also included in Difficnary many mythology god names and foreign phrases 
that caught my
interest. 
 
I am not a programmer, but I think it would be easy to add (for free) 
Difficnary word base to your
Word product: a Find-by-Meaning.  And its word base could be expanded as 
users themselves add
more words with one-line definitions.

Any interest?

John S  

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Re: [discuss] Enhancement to Word: Difficnary

2006-09-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
This may be a good project to reffer to since has the information for  
creating a dictionary;

http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/


On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:39:55 -0500, j*s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi-

I started keeping track of words that I knew not the meaning of back in  
my university days of
1959.  And slowly I kept adding more words as the years passed.  It was  
a laborious task of using
a loose leaf notebook.  But with the advent of computers and me buying a  
laptop in 1998, the task
became more productive.  And, thus, I now have a small! dictionary of  
only difficult words:

Difficnary (copyright).

Using any Word program, I find certain limitations.  The Thesaurus   
option does NOT give word
meanings.  Nor can I search for a word knowing only its partial  
meaning.   And it lacks many
difficult words and foreign phrases.   So, after editing my growing  
Difficnary to just one line
meanings, I started to use the Word FIND command to search for words or  
meanings in Difficnary
itself.  This method and Difficnary could be an addition to any  
electronic Word application.


For example:
if one has an electronic copy of Difficnary and uses the Edit command  
FIND, then one can seek on a
key meaning (e.g., “slave”) and find its words whose one-line definition  
includes “slave”:

chattel -n. slave; bondsman; belongings
coffle  -n. a slave caravan
esne-n. a domestic slave
helot   -n. slave; serf
manumission -n. formal liberation of a slave
manumit -v. to release from slavery; to free as a slave
thrall  -n. a slave; bondman

I’ve also included in Difficnary many mythology god names and foreign  
phrases that caught my

interest.
I am not a programmer, but I think it would be easy to add (for free)  
Difficnary word base to your
Word product: a Find-by-Meaning.  And its word base could be expanded  
as users themselves add

more words with one-line definitions.

Any interest?

John S

j*s


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Re: [discuss] Enhancement to Word: Difficnary

2006-09-07 Thread Richard/g

Forwarding your offer and suggestion to the lingucomponent project.
If you join the list there, you will find a group interested in 
dictionaries;

programmers and others. The URL for the list is on this page:
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/index.html

saludos,
Richard.


j*s wrote:

Hi-

I started keeping track of words that I knew not the meaning of back in my 
university days of
1959.  And slowly I kept adding more words as the years passed.  It was a 
laborious task of using
a loose leaf notebook.  But with the advent of computers and me buying a laptop 
in 1998, the task
became more productive.  And, thus, I now have a small! dictionary of only 
difficult words:
Difficnary (copyright).

Using any Word program, I find certain limitations.  The Thesaurus  option does 
NOT give word
meanings.  Nor can I search for a word knowing only its partial meaning.   And 
it lacks many
difficult words and foreign phrases.   So, after editing my growing Difficnary 
to just one line
meanings, I started to use the Word FIND command to search for words or 
meanings in Difficnary
itself.  This method and Difficnary could be an addition to any electronic Word 
application.

For example:
if one has an electronic copy of Difficnary and uses the Edit command FIND, 
then one can seek on a
key meaning (e.g., “slave”) and find its words whose one-line definition 
includes “slave”:
chattel -n. slave; bondsman; belongings
coffle  -n. a slave caravan
esne-n. a domestic slave
helot   -n. slave; serf
manumission -n. formal liberation of a slave
manumit -v. to release from slavery; to free as a slave
thrall  -n. a slave; bondman

I’ve also included in Difficnary many mythology god names and foreign phrases 
that caught my
interest. 
 
I am not a programmer, but I think it would be easy to add (for free) Difficnary word base to your

Word product: a Find-by-Meaning.  And its word base could be expanded as 
users themselves add
more words with one-line definitions.

Any interest?

John S  


j*s
  


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[discuss] Paul Maddison - openoffice phonetic guide enhancement

2006-09-07 Thread Paul Maddison
I have used openoffice.org over several versions and I think it is a good 
development

 

The only thing that keeps me using Microsoft Word is the Phonetic Guide for 
Japanese.  When I write Kanji (Japanese characters derived from China) I can 
click on the phonetic guide icon and a list of suggested phonetic characters 
appear that are accurate about 97% of the time. This feature really speeds up 
my work.  Openoffice.org text writer has a phonetic guide but no suggestion 
appears.  If the software could include this feature I would be able to convert 
completely to Openoffice.org writer and so would several of the people I 
research with: especially because there is a portable version that can be 
carried around in a USB chip (pendrive).

Paul Maddison
Australia

RE: [discuss] Paul Maddison - openoffice phonetic guide enhancement

2006-09-07 Thread Justin Fitzgibbon
You might consider investing the money that would otherwise be spend on
upgrading MS office on
hiring a consulting programmer to implement this feature. Also if enough
people collaborate on providing the raw information needed for the guide
then it may be implemented sooner. 

Try contacting the OO.o localization team for the Japanese language as
they will understand the difficulties of implementing such a guide. If
enough small and medium sized businesses sponsor specific features in
the way that WordPerfect filters were sponsored the progress of Oo.o
will be significantly improved.


-Original Message-
From: Paul Maddison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: discuss@openoffice.org
Subject: [discuss] Paul Maddison - openoffice phonetic guide enhancement

I have used openoffice.org over several versions and I think it is a
good development

 

The only thing that keeps me using Microsoft Word is the Phonetic Guide
for Japanese.  When I write Kanji (Japanese characters derived from
China) I can click on the phonetic guide icon and a list of suggested
phonetic characters appear that are accurate about 97% of the time. This
feature really speeds up my work.  Openoffice.org text writer has a
phonetic guide but no suggestion appears.  If the software could include
this feature I would be able to convert completely to Openoffice.org
writer and so would several of the people I research with: especially
because there is a portable version that can be carried around in a USB
chip (pendrive).

Paul Maddison
Australia

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