[discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
Hello, I am developping an application that heavily rely on microsoft Excel at the moment that we are exporting to IRAN and other countries under american embargo. The problem is that exporting american software (Excel), to IRAN is prohibited by american laws, so the idea is to use OpenOffice instead. My questions are: Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? Does it really have to abide by american laws? Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) to IRAN restricted in any way? Thanks, Lionel. ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
Hi, we have a Persian Native-Language community localizing OOo in Farsi. (http://fa.openoffice.org) Although asking your legal counsel is a good idea, you should download their binaries and source and work on it. You won't have any problem as the builds come from Iran. Best Regards, Charles-H. Schulz, Lead of the Native-Lang Confederation, OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
I don't know about anyone else on this list, but I would suggest that these questions are best directed to your legal counsel (or your own countries trade office). My PERSONAL opinion is that OOo is countryless, not bounded by USA laws and therefore _it should_ be ok... but as before - get professional advice. /paul On 2/15/06, yo yo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am developping an application that heavily rely on > microsoft Excel at the moment that we are exporting to > IRAN and other countries under american embargo. > The problem is that exporting american software > (Excel), to IRAN is prohibited by american laws, so > the idea is to use OpenOffice instead. > My questions are: > Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? > Does it really have to abide by american laws? > Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) > to IRAN restricted in any way? > > Thanks, > Lionel. > > > > > > > > ___ > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs > exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
Consider that OOo is developed in Europe, not the USA. Daniel. Paul wrote: I don't know about anyone else on this list, but I would suggest that these questions are best directed to your legal counsel (or your own countries trade office). My PERSONAL opinion is that OOo is countryless, not bounded by USA laws and therefore _it should_ be ok... but as before - get professional advice. /paul On 2/15/06, yo yo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I am developping an application that heavily rely on microsoft Excel at the moment that we are exporting to IRAN and other countries under american embargo. The problem is that exporting american software (Excel), to IRAN is prohibited by american laws, so the idea is to use OpenOffice instead. My questions are: Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? Does it really have to abide by american laws? Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) to IRAN restricted in any way? Thanks, Lionel. ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /\/`) http://oooauthors.org /\/_/ http://opendocumentfellowship.org /\/_/ \/_/"Intolerant people should be shot on the spot" / :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
YoYo wrote: > Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? It is developed and run by an American corporation. [Sun.] > Does it really have to abide by american laws? Only in the us. > Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) to IRAN restricted in > any way? In theory, OOo may not be distributed to, exported to, or used by nationals of countries which are on the embargoed list. In practice, OOo has been distributed to countries on the embargoed list, and used by nationals of those countries. [Their contributions to OOo have had a mixed history.] xan jonathon -- Ethical conduct is a vice. Corrupt conduct is a virtue. Motto of Nacarima.
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
As far as the GPL is concern they specify that this software is not bounded to any country. OpenOffice.org is German but since Sun bought the development it might be considered american. However Licensing it through LGPL makes it countryless. On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:20:13 -0600, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know about anyone else on this list, but I would suggest that these questions are best directed to your legal counsel (or your own countries trade office). My PERSONAL opinion is that OOo is countryless, not bounded by USA laws and therefore _it should_ be ok... but as before - get professional advice. /paul On 2/15/06, yo yo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I am developping an application that heavily rely on microsoft Excel at the moment that we are exporting to IRAN and other countries under american embargo. The problem is that exporting american software (Excel), to IRAN is prohibited by american laws, so the idea is to use OpenOffice instead. My questions are: Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? Does it really have to abide by american laws? Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) to IRAN restricted in any way? Thanks, Lionel. ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just on a side note OpenOffice.org is very popular in Cuba too. :) On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:40:51 -0600, Jonathon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YoYo wrote: Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? It is developed and run by an American corporation. [Sun.] Does it really have to abide by american laws? Only in the us. Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) to IRAN restricted in any way? In theory, OOo may not be distributed to, exported to, or used by nationals of countries which are on the embargoed list. In practice, OOo has been distributed to countries on the embargoed list, and used by nationals of those countries. [Their contributions to OOo have had a mixed history.] xan jonathon -- Ethical conduct is a vice. Corrupt conduct is a virtue. Motto of Nacarima. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
My understanding is that if OpenOffice.org were to be denied to Iranians on account of their government having a well-publicized disagreement with the government of the USA, that would be an act of discrimination, which the FSF in writing the GPL and the LGPL explicitly denounce - and I am using the word "denounce" in a quasilegal sense here. Ie, "repudiate". So go right ahead. Wesley Parish Quoting Alexandro Colorado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As far as the GPL is concern they specify that this software is not > bounded to any country. OpenOffice.org is German but since Sun bought > the > development it might be considered american. However Licensing it > through > LGPL makes it countryless. > > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:20:13 -0600, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know about anyone else on this list, but I would suggest that > > these questions are best directed to your legal counsel (or your own > > countries trade office). > > > > My PERSONAL opinion is that OOo is countryless, not bounded by USA > > laws and therefore _it should_ be ok... but as before - get > > professional advice. > > > > /paul > > > > On 2/15/06, yo yo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am developping an application that heavily rely on > >> microsoft Excel at the moment that we are exporting to > >> IRAN and other countries under american embargo. > >> The problem is that exporting american software > >> (Excel), to IRAN is prohibited by american laws, so > >> the idea is to use OpenOffice instead. > >> My questions are: > >> Is OpenOffice american? or is it 'countryfree'? > >> Does it really have to abide by american laws? > >> Is exporting OpenOffice (or other opensource software) > >> to IRAN restricted in any way? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lionel. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ___ > >> Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les > > >> tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > >> Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com > >> > >> > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES > http://es.openoffice.org > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Sharpened hands are happy hands. "Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands" - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge "I me. Shape middled me. I would come out into hot!" I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alexandro Colorado wrote: Just on a side note OpenOffice.org is very popular in Cuba too. :) And we know about it also being used in North Korea -- nicu my OpenOffice.org pages: http://ooo.nicubunu.ro Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Exporting OpenOffice to IRAN
Just a thought or two here.. The licence is Open and allows no embargo. By your address you are in France and subject to French Law not Bleeding American If thats the case it would be illeagal under EU law Not to supply it as the EU have no embargos YET.. It would also be illegal under the EHRA as it would be classed as discriminatory In fact if the EU try to impose emabrgos on Iran they will have to reconcile it with the EHRA as that prescribes it and the basic fundamental concepts are applicable to all of Humanity not just residents of the EU. Unlike the Americans that accept torture in this day and age so long as it isn't on American Soil. Lastly.. Whoi gives a stuff what the yanks want anyway.. Who voted them World Police??? Send it to the Peoples Republic of Iran,, It will save them Laughing as they use Their own copies of Office ;) Chris On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:53:01 -, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Just on a side note OpenOffice.org is very popular in Cuba too. :) And we know about it also being used in North Korea -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
