Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-13 Thread Robert Derman

René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

No software in the world can do what I need it to do.

 


I'm a teacher and amateur musician and often I need to have a song
transposed to a different key e.g. from G-major to D-major. But I have to do
this manually: find every G-chord and change it to D. This can sometime be a
bit troublesome as I have to use color-coding. E.g. if I change all G-chords
in the text below (I'm Moving On - Rascal Flats) I get an intro like this D
C  D - I can't tell if it's right or I still have to transpose the last
D-chord to an A...

 

Intro  G C  D  


(Piano |: G – G/f# - Em – G/d – C2 – D7sus4 :|)

 

 G


I've dealt with my ghosts an’ I've faced all my demons

C D

Fin’ly content with the past I regret

 


If I had a function in OO where I could choose the key of the song in e.g. a
dropdown menu and every chord is an object that can be locked to a specific
place in the lyrics. Then this object could be changed according to the
chosen key - or if I change the key (=transpose it).

Furthermore, if the chord-object is locked to a specific place I can change
font-style and -size etc. without changing their relative position - as have
happened in the example above.

 


If someone could programme this feature into OO, he or she would forever be
included in my evening prayers! ;-)

 


René Andersen

Denmark
  
I am sure such a function will never appear in any office suite. The 
only way that any software will ever be offered is if a company that 
makes software for musicians decides that there is enough of a market 
for it to pay for its development, or if a musician who also dabbles in 
computer programming decides to spend the time writing it for his or her 
own use, and then makes it available FOSS for others. But as part of an 
office suite, I seriously doubt it will ever happen.


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-13 Thread Paul Scott

On 02/11/2011 08:07 AM, René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

No software in the world can do what I need it to do.



I'm a teacher and amateur musician and often I need to have a song
transposed to a different key e.g. from G-major to D-major. But I have to do
this manually: find every G-chord and change it to D. This can sometime be a
bit troublesome as I have to use color-coding. E.g. if I change all G-chords
in the text below (I'm Moving On - Rascal Flats) I get an intro like this D
C  D - I can't tell if it's right or I still have to transpose the last
D-chord to an A...
   


LilyPond should do what you want. It's free.

http://lilypond.org/index.html

Paul Scott



Intro  G C  D

(Piano |: G – G/f# - Em – G/d – C2 – D7sus4 :|)



  G

I've dealt with my ghosts an’ I've faced all my demons

C D

Fin’ly content with the past I regret



If I had a function in OO where I could choose the key of the song in e.g. a
dropdown menu and every chord is an object that can be locked to a specific
place in the lyrics. Then this object could be changed according to the
chosen key - or if I change the key (=transpose it).

Furthermore, if the chord-object is locked to a specific place I can change
font-style and -size etc. without changing their relative position - as have
happened in the example above.



If someone could programme this feature into OO, he or she would forever be
included in my evening prayers! ;-)



René Andersen

Denmark




   



--
Paul Scott
Librarian
Southern Arizona Symphony Orchestra



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-13 Thread Paul Cohen

On 2/11/2011 10:07 AM, René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

No software in the world can do what I need it to do.



I'm a teacher and amateur musician and often I need to have a song
transposed to a different key e.g. from G-major to D-major. But I have to do
this manually: find every G-chord and change it to D. This can sometime be a
bit troublesome as I have to use color-coding. E.g. if I change all G-chords
in the text below (I'm Moving On - Rascal Flats) I get an intro like this D
C  D - I can't tell if it's right or I still have to transpose the last
D-chord to an A...



Intro  G C  D

(Piano |: G -- G/f# - Em -- G/d -- C2 -- D7sus4 :|)



  G

I've dealt with my ghosts an' I've faced all my demons

C D

Fin'ly content with the past I regret



If I had a function in OO where I could choose the key of the song in e.g. a
dropdown menu and every chord is an object that can be locked to a specific
place in the lyrics. Then this object could be changed according to the
chosen key - or if I change the key (=transpose it).

Furthermore, if the chord-object is locked to a specific place I can change
font-style and -size etc. without changing their relative position - as have
happened in the example above.



If someone could programme this feature into OO, he or she would forever be
included in my evening prayers! ;-)



René Andersen

Denmark




Some years ago I wrote a macro for Microsoft Word that made this 
conversion.  It wasn't without bugs, but most of the time it worked OK.  
If it would be useful, I might be able to find it for you.


--
*Paul Cohen*


Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread Mike Scott

On 11/02/2011 15:07, René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

No software in the world can do what I need it to do.



I'm a teacher and amateur musician and often I need to have a song
transposed to a different key e.g. from G-major to D-major. But I have to do
this manually: find every G-chord and change it to D. This can sometime be a
bit troublesome as I have to use color-coding. E.g. if I change all G-chords
in the text below (I'm Moving On - Rascal Flats) I get an intro like this D
C  D - I can't tell if it's right or I still have to transpose the last
D-chord to an A...


(NB you're not subscribed to this mailing list - there's at least one 
answer that you'll probably have missed as a result! See 
www.openoffice.org for more info on the openoffice mail lists)


There's quite a lot about. Someone else has mentioned lilypond, which 
may be a bit heavy duty. (I'm almost sure there's a gui editor to go 
with this, but can't remember the name offhand.) It might be worth 
looking at abcm2ps, which offers a lighter-duty non-gui approach to 
music typesetting, along with abc2abc which will do transpositions for you.


I know there's a least one 'fake book' program, which will do chord 
transpositions (and even recommend guitar capo position) and output a 
more-or-less usable odf file. There must be others, I'm sure.


If £££ don't matter, there's always the likes of Sibelius!


--
Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 11/02/2011 15:07, René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

> No software in the world can do what I need it to do.

Both _Sibelius_ and _Finale_ can do what you described.

ABCEdit (Music Editor) does the same thing, but only if you use ABC
notation. Depending upon your music notation requirements, ABC might not
be suitable for you.

If you have the music in MIDIformat, then MidiTransform can do what you
request.

On 13/02/2011 19:38, Paul Scott wrote:

> LilyPond should do what you want.

Lilypond is for music typesetting.  It doesn't do scale transformations.

jonathon
- -- 
email sent to this with email address with a precedence of other than
bulk, or list, are forwarded to Dave Null, unread.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNWRu2AAoJEDqP6lg9AbnKBeAH/2pXydd6EtpL0vitMiQGLC5v
1y4zBNS+cuRcW9/v36vME/mOcEP/pkrUYWVTNlDG23CSBbWUqaEgblPqnUFTWhy8
ymd9cyil6gArgdLB+x1Zfs8NPrc6OE2FsxZNsGhryIXjB9EjLewtlWo9D2pZc2NH
lHihj+P+i5Bq2sjOqZ+BfDC7bKplwAuKZH5/PC9esaOTE0/uMf+A/4JFUcYz2iBY
4/4JZlhLK+iWbZO9ljSEVxAy/qeIOmauMbzgP02S9iYqqa1BJqc/WOAkqG4FAjg4
GbL4EpwzucYfBNko6jAhJggoUXTMvNO5rBtIdTkQx8WNv6ze4aoxBsgYCI20s1Y=
=bNPX
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread Barbara Duprey

[Apologies for the top post!]

Because you are not subscribed to this list, you may have missed some responses. To see your message 
and all the responses, you can go to

http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/Future-element-tt3303908.html

On 2/11/2011 9:07 AM, René Bjerre Andersen wrote:

No software in the world can do what I need it to do.



I'm a teacher and amateur musician and often I need to have a song
transposed to a different key e.g. from G-major to D-major. But I have to do
this manually: find every G-chord and change it to D. This can sometime be a
bit troublesome as I have to use color-coding. E.g. if I change all G-chords
in the text below (I'm Moving On - Rascal Flats) I get an intro like this D
C  D - I can't tell if it's right or I still have to transpose the last
D-chord to an A...



Intro  G C  D

(Piano |: G – G/f# - Em – G/d – C2 – D7sus4 :|)



  G

I've dealt with my ghosts an’ I've faced all my demons

C D

Fin’ly content with the past I regret



If I had a function in OO where I could choose the key of the song in e.g. a
dropdown menu and every chord is an object that can be locked to a specific
place in the lyrics. Then this object could be changed according to the
chosen key - or if I change the key (=transpose it).

Furthermore, if the chord-object is locked to a specific place I can change
font-style and -size etc. without changing their relative position - as have
happened in the example above.



If someone could programme this feature into OO, he or she would forever be
included in my evening prayers! ;-)



René Andersen

Denmark






-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



SV: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread René Bjerre Andersen
That would be great. I'm not very good at programming but I'm trying to
learn so my student might try...

René

---

Some years ago I wrote a macro for Microsoft Word that made this conversion.
It wasn't without bugs, but most of the time it worked OK.  
If it would be useful, I might be able to find it for you.

--
*Paul Cohen*


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



SV: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread René Bjerre Andersen
Finale, Sibelius and LilyPond doesn't have the function I need. Yes, they
can all transpose a song to a different key, but I only want the lyrics and
chords. All these programs have to have the notes plotted to be able to
transpose the song --> chords.

I have access to both Finale and Sibelius. I also know PriMus (aka Score
Perfect) - but same problem...

René


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: SV: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi René,

René Bjerre Andersen wrote (14-02-11 19:47)

Finale, Sibelius and LilyPond doesn't have the function I need. Yes, they


LilyPond is open source. So maybe you can find someone who is interested 
to help :-)


Regards,
Cor


--
 - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation -


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org



Re: SV: [discuss] Future element?

2011-02-15 Thread Mike Scott

On 14/02/2011 19:40, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi René,

René Bjerre Andersen wrote (14-02-11 19:47)

Finale, Sibelius and LilyPond doesn't have the function I need. Yes, they


LilyPond is open source. So maybe you can find someone who is interested
to help :-)

Regards,
Cor




This now seems well OT for this list :-(

If the OP wishes, can install perl, and promises /absolutely/ to neither 
criticize the remarkably untidy code ( :-)  ) nor ask for support, I 
could send my fake book script. It handles lyrics and chords, will 
transpose as needed and produces a usable-if-not-the-best text or odf 
file as output from a could-probably-be-simpler input.


Otherwise, I'd suggest using abc-formatted input and abc2abc (it's a 
freebie). Which will happily convert, say,


X: 1
M:4/4
T:test piece
C:Mike
%
K:A
%
"A" "B" "Bb" "C"

to (up a tone)

X: 1
M:4/4
T:test piece
C:Mike
%
K:B
%
"B" "C#" "C" "D"

Somewhat laborious, but at least you'd get the chords done.


--
Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org
For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org