Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-12-03 Thread KAMI

Mathias Bauer írta:

Please also make sure that you create issues for all the problems you
discover when working with non-code extensions. We are very interested
in them.

It would be nice if you could send me a comprehensive list of all found
issues (even those you created already) to my OOo account (my user name
is mba) so that can add it to the documentation mentioned above.

Even better: if you have an account for the Ooo wiki, please attach the
list of issues as an additional section yourself.

I think it's a good idea to have a central place where all work on
non-code extensions comes together and can be tracked easily.

Ciao,
Mathias
  



One of serious gallery problem:
It seem OOo mapping UNO gallery files wrongly to user 
home/OpenOffice.org2/user/gallery/... when gallery contains external 
(linked file)... This is the way how we can put a photo into the gallery.

The correct mapping should be (example):

home/OpenOffice.org2/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/5.tmp_/OOOP-2.0.4-1-gallery.oxt/gallery/Photos/Flowers/rose_sv400157.jpg

Can you confirm it? Is it a P2 category error?

And even worse, the shared mode installed gallery file is also mapping 
to home/OpenOffice.org2/user/gallery/...




Regards,
KAMI

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Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-12-03 Thread Mathias Bauer
KAMI wrote:

 Mathias Bauer írta:
 Please also make sure that you create issues for all the problems you
 discover when working with non-code extensions. We are very interested
 in them.

 It would be nice if you could send me a comprehensive list of all found
 issues (even those you created already) to my OOo account (my user name
 is mba) so that can add it to the documentation mentioned above.

 Even better: if you have an account for the Ooo wiki, please attach the
 list of issues as an additional section yourself.

 I think it's a good idea to have a central place where all work on
 non-code extensions comes together and can be tracked easily.

 Ciao,
 Mathias
   

 
 One of serious gallery problem:
 It seem OOo mapping UNO gallery files wrongly to user 
 home/OpenOffice.org2/user/gallery/... when gallery contains external 
 (linked file)... This is the way how we can put a photo into the gallery.
 The correct mapping should be (example):
 
 home/OpenOffice.org2/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/5.tmp_/OOOP-2.0.4-1-gallery.oxt/gallery/Photos/Flowers/rose_sv400157.jpg
 
 Can you confirm it? Is it a P2 category error?

No. Especially as this error is there for a long time. Gallery is not
well prepared for becoming extended but that's not a P2 (that usually is
used for crashes or data loss). If everything that doesn't work got a P2
that wouldn't help in priorisation, right?

Ciao,
Mathias

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Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-12-02 Thread KAMI

Hello!

Possible issue:

Remove package/extension does not happen immediately just after the 
restart of OOo. Is this a bug or by design?



KAMI

Mathias Bauer írta:

KAMI wrote:

  

The most wanted for me:
71705 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=71705 
ENHANC 	P3 	All 	requirements 	UNCONF 	

Provide a way to use localization in gallery extensions


Not directly to extensions, but...
72005 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=72005 
FEATUR 	P3 	All 	requirements 	UNCONF 	

Allowing language selection from Templates and documents dia



Thanks, I added both of them to the wiki. You can find the links with a
short comment in the sections about multi language templates extensions
and gallery extensions.

Ciao,
Mathias

  




Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-28 Thread KAMI

Mathias Bauer írta:

KAMI wrote:

  


Thanks, I added both of them to the wiki. You can find the links with a
short comment in the sections about multi language templates extensions
and gallery extensions.

Ciao,
Mathias

  


Thank you, Mathias!
Are there any chance to to make it fixed for 2.2? When the extensions 
will support autoupdate? How can I use that facility? Is there name for 
Extensions or the name is the packagename? Is the versioning existing in 
ooo extensions?


Best regards,
KAMI


Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-28 Thread Mathias Bauer
KAMI wrote:

 Mathias Bauer írta:
 KAMI wrote:

   

 Thanks, I added both of them to the wiki. You can find the links with a
 short comment in the sections about multi language templates extensions
 and gallery extensions.

 Ciao,
 Mathias

   
 
 Thank you, Mathias!
 Are there any chance to to make it fixed for 2.2? When the extensions 
 will support autoupdate? How can I use that facility? Is there name for 
 Extensions or the name is the packagename? Is the versioning existing in 
 ooo extensions?

I can't tell anything about the gallery issues as I'm not the one to fix
them and also nobody in my team is.

Extension autoupdate most probably will be available in 2.2.
If you want to know more about this please ask on
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Ciao,
Mathias

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RE: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-27 Thread Andrew Robertson
something that would be FANTASTIC is a page where people can download
clipart, templates, extensions, etc. I know there is OOExtras
(http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/downloads/english/) but there really should
be an openoffice.org sponsored page on openoffice.org that is user managed,
where registered users can upload clipart, audio clips, templates,
extensions, and more. There should also be options to download preset
packages; perhaps a method for users to mark items that they would include
in a package and then name it, and the system could then include them in an
easy download.

I hate to reference Microsoft in something like this, but you may wish to
check out the functionality of http://dgl.microsoft.com. It is a good
example of how all this could work, minus the user package functionality. Of
course, if they just added a Save to user package link in the download
basket and have it write to some user list page, then this would take care
of that. ;)


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-Original Message-
From: Justin Fitzgibbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 2:13 PM
To: discuss@openoffice.org
Subject: RE: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org


 That's great extensions/addins are the best way to avoid bloating out
the standard installer
 after all not everyone needs templates or clip art right away.

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From: KAMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 3:56 AM
To: discuss@openoffice.org
Subject: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

Hello OpenOffice.org Fans!

I am uploading some OxygenOffice Professional based extensions to
enhance your OpenOffice.org experience :o) You can download it from
here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170021package_id=
208656

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Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-27 Thread KAMI

Bernhard Dippold írta:

Thanks, KAMI!

KAMI schrieb:

Hello OpenOffice.org Fans!

I am uploading some OxygenOffice Professional based extensions to 
enhance your OpenOffice.org experience :o) You can download it from 
here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170021package_id=208656 



Please report any bug related to these releases.


The gallery extension works fine at my first glance in OOo2.1.rc1 - 
only the (Hungarian?) names of some galleries (Fotók - Növények, 
Alakzatok) or gallery entries (Fürézfog, Zászlók - Németorszáz) 
could be translated one day...

Nice to hear that.
This is a bug in OpenOffice.org, that I haven't reported yet. If you use 
localized theme names and inject a new cliparts into theme the saved 
gallery theme file will contains theme name on UI language. I usually 
use Hungarian language the you get Hungarian theme names... Oooop :o(
We use localized theme names in OxygenOffice Professional but the 
galleries in extensions do not support it. This is a second problem. OOo 
can use localized res files (it require compile) but we need xml based 
localizon facility for galleries. It also would be nice for included 
galleries not just for extensions.


Gallery and template extensions are easy to be integrated in OOo (just 
click on Add in Tools - Extension manager and search for the .oxt 
files), but there should be a hint somewhere to close OOo before you 
search for the newly installed extensions.
Yes you are right. Or are there any way to reinitialize the list of 
gallery and templates? It would be a very user friendly feature.


As your website declares that all these templates and gallery items 
are licensed under LGPL (you should update your issues with this 
information) we should think about including *some of them* in the 
main product.
Not all galleries and templates are licensed under LGPL. Some of them 
under PD, others have different license. We spent lot of efforts to 
clear the license related questions. I attached some file to inform you 
about progressions.


Képtár - gallery and licenses
README - templates with sources
contrib.unknown - templates with unknown creator
templates* - revision of templates




The number of templates and cliparts is too large to include all of 
them  while bloating the entire suite, but some more templates and 
clipart are important for marketing OOo in comparison to it's competitor.
I agree here. We should select the best 200-400 cliparts (mainly not 
photos) and we should select the best 20-50 templates... Also we have to 
build a service for easy download of other templates/galleries.

Petr Mladek created a great wikipage about this:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_-_Templates#Official_OOo_Templates_Web_Site 



Where should the discussion about this integration take place?
IMHO the issues (http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405 
and http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406) are not the 
right place - more people's opinion should be included.

also 407, 408... But yes, 405-6 are the most interesting.


So would it be appropriate to talk about this topic here?

Yes, sure.


Best regards

Bernhard

KAMI

PS.
The attached file blocked the mail delivery. I can send it to anyone if 
you are interested.




Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-27 Thread KAMI

Mathias Bauer írta:

Please also make sure that you create issues for all the problems you
discover when working with non-code extensions. We are very interested
in them.

It would be nice if you could send me a comprehensive list of all found
issues (even those you created already) to my OOo account (my user name
is mba) so that can add it to the documentation mentioned above.

Even better: if you have an account for the Ooo wiki, please attach the
list of issues as an additional section yourself.

I think it's a good idea to have a central place where all work on
non-code extensions comes together and can be tracked easily.

Ciao,
Mathias
  

The most wanted for me:
71705 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=71705 
ENHANC 	P3 	All 	requirements 	UNCONF 	

Provide a way to use localization in gallery extensions


Not directly to extensions, but...
72005 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=72005 
FEATUR 	P3 	All 	requirements 	UNCONF 	

Allowing language selection from Templates and documents dia



KAMI




Re: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-26 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Thanks, KAMI!

KAMI schrieb:

Hello OpenOffice.org Fans!

I am uploading some OxygenOffice Professional based extensions to 
enhance your OpenOffice.org experience :o) You can download it from here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170021package_id=208656 



Please report any bug related to these releases.


The gallery extension works fine at my first glance in OOo2.1.rc1 - only 
the (Hungarian?) names of some galleries (Fotók - Növények, 
Alakzatok) or gallery entries (Fürézfog, Zászlók - Németorszáz) 
could be translated one day...


Gallery and template extensions are easy to be integrated in OOo (just 
click on Add in Tools - Extension manager and search for the .oxt 
files), but there should be a hint somewhere to close OOo before you 
search for the newly installed extensions.


As your website declares that all these templates and gallery items are 
licensed under LGPL (you should update your issues with this 
information) we should think about including *some of them* in the main 
product.


The number of templates and cliparts is too large to include all of them 
 while bloating the entire suite, but some more templates and clipart 
are important for marketing OOo in comparison to it's competitor.


Where should the discussion about this integration take place?
IMHO the issues (http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405 
and http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406) are not the 
right place - more people's opinion should be included.


So would it be appropriate to talk about this topic here?

Best regards

Bernhard

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RE: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

2006-11-23 Thread Justin Fitzgibbon
 That's great extensions/addins are the best way to avoid bloating out
the standard installer 
 after all not everyone needs templates or clip art right away. 

-Original Message-
From: KAMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 3:56 AM
To: discuss@openoffice.org
Subject: [discuss] OxygenOffice.org's packages for OpenOffice.org

Hello OpenOffice.org Fans!

I am uploading some OxygenOffice Professional based extensions to
enhance your OpenOffice.org experience :o) You can download it from
here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170021package_id=
208656 

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