[SH-Discuss] Young Aristotles/Lil' Archimedes
Howdy Y'all I seem to have caused a bit of a brouhaha. Lines 13 & 14 of the meeting minutes for 1-28-2014 read as follows. "Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it Lil' Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur." What I actually said was. "I [Matthew Smallwood] have heard that Bethany [Munyan] will be unable to join us for some time. If that is in fact the case I will, this being a do-ocracy, take on the Little Aristotles project and probably rename it lil' Archimedes." As my assistance seems likely unneeded and certainly unwanted. Also as have many other demands on my time I here by withdraw my statement. I would like to apologize for any hurt feelings or bruised egos that this misunderstanding may have caused. Anyone wishing to discuss this further please feel free to contact me directly. (brewb...@gmail.come / 215-239-4424) -Matthew R. Smallwood ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] This is unfortunate: Regulators vs Learn to Code bootcamps
http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/29/california-regulator-seeks-to-shut-down-learn-to-code-bootcamps/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] Family and Sponsorship Plans
Hi, all. I've been thinking of how we could accomplish the family rate for memberships, and at the same time how we could accomodate corporate sponsorships. First, we should change the discount. Currently, it is a 10% discount on the total when you buy at least three months at a time. I suggest that we change it to 15% off the total when you buy 2-6 months, and a 20% discount for 7-12. Second, the discount should only apply to certain blocks of membership. You couldn't directly buy 5 months, but you could buy a block of 3 and a block of 2. This is to encourage groups to contribute extra memberships to those who need/want monetary sponsorships while cutting down on the impact of the discount elsewhere. Suggested packages: * 2 months: $59.50 instead of $70, discount of $10.50 * 4 months: $119 instead of $140, discount of $21 * 6 months: $178.50 instead of $210, discount of $31.50 * 9 months: $252 instead of $315, discount of $63 * 12 months: $336 instead of $420, discount of $84 My idea is that entities (human or otherwise) can buy a block of months at a time and decide how they want to allocate the purchased months. For most people, they would only ever buy one month at a time and apply it to their own membership. Still $35. A family with two members could have one person buy a block of two months and apply each month to each person's membership. Their bill would be $59.50. Adding a kid would make it a pack of two plus a single for $94.50 instead of $105. A company that wishes to pay for a number of employees could buy some months and apply them to their employees. For example, they could have five employees and decide to sponsor 4+1 memberships per month for $154, or 6 for $178. 5 regular memberships is $175. This also somewhat plays into the hacker-in-residence idea. If someone wanted to sponsor another member, they would only need to pay another $24.50. Feedback and suggestions welcome. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
If that's what everyone wants to do but we still need background checks for all gathered volunteers . Beth can we see your lesson plans and the planning you have put into the camp so we can get an idea of where we are at On Jan 30, 2014 10:46 AM, "a l" wrote: > I think we have enough time to do it since Bethany apparently has lesson > plans and activities made up. I'm under the impression all we have to do is > get volunteers trained and advertise. > Torrie has done done outreach to local schools so we might be able to get > them involved to avoid certifications for SynHak > > regards, > Andrew L > On Jan 30, 2014 10:41 AM, "Becca Salchak" wrote: > >> In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer >> On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, "a l" wrote: >> >>> On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably >>> finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. >>> Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and >>> going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the >>> materials we need. >>> A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification >>> to run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year >>> to piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp >>> >>> in excellence, >>> Andrew L >>> On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" wrote: >>> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes would be as follows: * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more accurately reflects what happened last night. Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help run it. I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that. I misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running the program in question held some sort of elected, official position within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. Chris On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: >> You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an >> office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't this >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other big >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about > officers: > >> every office > -- O. Rassi > > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was demonstrated > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation steps > up and grabs the reins. > > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just getting > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while, I got > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it for a > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm trying > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps up. My > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. > >> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer >> >> wrote: >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other position? Why just this one? >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers >>> 7.7.1. Champion >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
I think we have enough time to do it since Bethany apparently has lesson plans and activities made up. I'm under the impression all we have to do is get volunteers trained and advertise. Torrie has done done outreach to local schools so we might be able to get them involved to avoid certifications for SynHak regards, Andrew L On Jan 30, 2014 10:41 AM, "Becca Salchak" wrote: > In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer > On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, "a l" wrote: > >> On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably >> finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. >> Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and >> going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the >> materials we need. >> A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to >> run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to >> piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp >> >> in excellence, >> Andrew L >> On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" wrote: >> >>> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper >>> wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes >>> would be as follows: >>> >>> * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program >>> should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He >>> has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. >>> >>> The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the >>> announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for >>> the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more >>> accurately reflects what happened last night. >>> >>> Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out >>> from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the >>> concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help >>> run it. >>> >>> I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the >>> list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. >>> >>> To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that. I >>> misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental >>> structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running >>> the program in question held some sort of elected, official position >>> within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to >>> describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we >>> have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role >>> Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. >>> >>> If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask >>> soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: >>> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: >>> >> You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an >>> >> office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't >>> this >>> >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other >>> big >>> >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. >>> > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about >>> > officers: >>> > >>> >> every office >>> > -- O. Rassi >>> > >>> > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was >>> demonstrated >>> > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, >>> or >>> > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and >>> motivation steps >>> > up and grabs the reins. >>> > >>> > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just >>> getting >>> > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a >>> while, I got >>> > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran >>> it for a >>> > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm >>> trying >>> > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps >>> up. My >>> > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: >>> Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other >>> position? Why just this one? >>> >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers >>> >>> 7.7.1. Champion >>> >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of >>> the >>> >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the >>> Corporation's >>> >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions >>> shall >>> >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this >>> >>> corporation's >>> >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of >>> >>> direct
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we need. A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" wrote: > Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper > wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes > would be as follows: > > * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program > should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He > has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. > > The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the > announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for > the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more > accurately reflects what happened last night. > > Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out > from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the > concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help > run it. > > I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the > list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. > > To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that. I > misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental > structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running > the program in question held some sort of elected, official position > within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to > describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we > have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role > Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. > > If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask > soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. > > Chris > > On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: > >> You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an > >> office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't > this > >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other > big > >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. > > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about > > officers: > > > >> every office > > -- O. Rassi > > > > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was > demonstrated > > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or > > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation > steps > > up and grabs the reins. > > > > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just > getting > > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while, > I got > > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it > for a > > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm > trying > > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps > up. My > > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. > > > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: > Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other > position? Why just this one? > >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers > >>> 7.7.1. Champion > >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the > >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's > >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall > >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this > >>> corporation's > >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of > >>> directors. > >>> > >>> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf > >>> > >>> According to precident, this section says that champions are the > >>> alternates > >>> for all the offices. > >>> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi > >>> wrote: > > But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, "should a > vacancy > >>> in > >>> > > that office occur." Currently there is no vacancy nor is one > expected. > > From > > my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in > > the > > event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function, > > whether > > its temporary or permanent. > > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 20
Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-01-28
In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, "a l" wrote: > On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize > the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally > people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over > the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we > need. > A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to > run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to > piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp > > in excellence, > Andrew L > On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" wrote: > >> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper >> wording. I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes >> would be as follows: >> >> * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program >> should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance. He >> has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes. >> >> The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the >> announcement or conversation that followed thereafter. I apologize for >> the inaccurate wording causing drama. The above line item more >> accurately reflects what happened last night. >> >> Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out >> from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the >> concept, and creating his own kids' program. He simply offered to help >> run it. >> >> I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the >> list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here. >> >> To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that. I >> misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental >> structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running >> the program in question held some sort of elected, official position >> within SYN/HAK. This is not the case. The proper term to use to >> describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we >> have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role >> Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles. >> >> If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask >> soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head. >> >> Chris >> >> On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: >> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote: >> >> You are contradicting yourself. The position that I was in was not an >> >> office. What you just sent was for offices. I was asking why isn't >> this >> >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other >> big >> >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK. >> > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about >> > officers: >> > >> >> every office >> > -- O. Rassi >> > >> > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was >> demonstrated >> > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, >> or >> > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation >> steps >> > up and grabs the reins. >> > >> > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just >> getting >> > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a >> while, I got >> > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it >> for a >> > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm >> trying >> > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps >> up. My >> > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure. >> > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote: >> Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other >> position? Why just this one? >> >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers >> >>> 7.7.1. Champion >> >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the >> >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's >> >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions >> shall >> >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this >> >>> corporation's >> >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of >> >>> directors. >> >>> >> >>> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf >> >>> >> >>> According to precident, this section says that champions are the >> >>> alternates >> >>> for all the offices. >> >>> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi >> >>> wrote: >> > But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, "should a >> vacancy >> >>> in >> >>> >> > that office occur." Currently there is no vacancy nor is one >> expected. >> > From >> > my perspective, ev
